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| # | 07:44:56 | lisppaste6 | dbs pasted "phasefx - client error from trunk - huh?" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/78952 |
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| # | 09:37:27 | dbs | just listening, back in a few hours |
| # | 09:41:00 | berick | wow, javascript continues to amaze. var a = [1,2,3]; a.length = 0; a is now empty. |
| # | 09:41:26 | berick | i wonder if node.childNodes.length = 0 will remove all child nodes magically |
| # | 10:06:02 | miker_ | heh |
| # | 10:06:16 | miker_ | berick: dojo.emtpy(node) will ;) |
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| # | 10:07:40 | berick | yeah, but that's too easy to read |
| # | 10:09:27 | miker_ | :) |
| # | 10:16:11 | _bott_ | Hrm... this change http://svn.open-ils.org/trac/ILS/changeset/12471 seems to do funny things for me. When searching a system, it does not display any CN data without using a rdetailShowAllCopies link. see: http://training.michiganevergreen.org/opac/en-US/skin/default/xml/rdetail.xml?r=263831&t=winnie&tp=keyword&l=11&d=1&hc=1&rt=keyword Switching the node,loc back to the original, seems to work as expected. Does this fix one depth an |
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| # | 10:54:51 | jeff | _bott_: your message truncated at "Does this fix one depth an" |
| # | 10:55:15 | _bott_ | "Does this fix one depth and break another?" |
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| # | 11:10:25 | phasefx | dbs: re: billing wizard, we need to provide a stock billing type with an id > (or >=?) 100.. it's culling out the ones that get used for system generated bills |
| # | 11:20:52 | berick | dbs: is the google stuff on the details page one of your contributions? have you given any thought to making it async (if possible)? it seems that the details page takes a while to load when google does not have data for a given record. |
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| # | 11:36:08 | miker_ | _bott_: there was some discussion about that changeset in here ... let me see if I can find it |
| # | 11:40:54 | miker_ | _bott_: just to be absolutely sure, Dora doesn't have a type that is can_have_vols=f, right? |
| # | 11:45:00 | _bott_ | right. |
| # | 11:45:08 | miker_ | _bott_: http://open-ils.org/irc_logs/openils-evergreen/2009-03/%23openils-evergreen.08-Sun-2009.log ... that suggests that it should be working |
| # | 11:45:09 | _bott_ | Just a basic branch |
| # | 11:46:54 | miker_ | hrm... I think ... jamesrf has a patch that adds the reverse test (instead of replacing it) |
| # | 11:47:11 | miker_ | that I haven't had a chance to look at closely yet |
| # | 11:47:12 | miker_ | sec |
| # | 11:48:04 | miker_ | yeah ... _bott_, would you mind testing the following: |
| # | 11:48:31 | _bott_ | sure, lemme have it |
| # | 11:49:16 | miker_ | replace the line in question with : if( !orgIsMine(node, loc) && !orgIsMine(loc,node) ) return; |
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| # | 11:53:28 | _bott_ | miker_: that seems to do the trick! |
| # | 11:54:33 | dbs | miker_: that was the patch from James Fournie, yeah? |
| # | 11:54:42 | miker_ | dbs: yes |
| # | 11:54:45 | dbs gets back from interviewing people |
| # | 11:55:10 | _bott_ ponders ...So, where do you see yourself in 5 years? |
| # | 11:55:22 | dbs | berick: google stuff on details page is my merge of Alex's patch, yes; I'll add "make async" to the todo list |
| # | 11:55:25 | miker_ | dbs: when you have a chance, would you mind testing it too? the current code is what (we thought) was needed for your hierarchy |
| # | 11:55:50 | dbs | miker_: I don't mind at all; it's on the short-term todo list :) |
| # | 11:56:08 | miker_ | thanks |
| # | 11:56:26 | berick | dbs++ |
| # | 11:56:40 | dbs | phasefx_: ah, good catch. man you people are SMART |
| # | 11:56:51 | dbs | phasefx++ miker_++ berick++ |
| # | 11:58:44 | dbs | ooh, lmcfarland++ too |
| # | 11:59:36 | dbs | berick: re openils.XUL, I think dojo 1.3 added some XUL-specific support; been meaning to look at that |
| # | 12:00:36 | berick | dbs: freaky |
| # | 12:02:07 | phasefx | dbs: I think there may be a minor off-by-1 issue too with what the staff client is looking for and what the billing types editor will actually let you modify.. never got back to peering closely at it |
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| # | 12:06:15 | miker_ | dbs: "doctor, it hurts when I do this" ;) |
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| # | 12:08:15 | miker_ | berick: nox is going dumb on me |
| # | 12:08:15 | berick | miker_: ah, maybe that's it |
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| # | 12:15:42 | dbs | re: orgIsMine patch, here it is with the jamesrf patch: http://concat.ca/opac/en-US/skin/lul_test/xml/rdetail.xml?r=687026&t=medicine&tp=keyword&l=111&d=1&hc=222&rt=keyword and here it is without: http://concat.ca/opac/en-US/skin/default/xml/rdetail.xml?r=687026&t=medicine&tp=keyword&l=111&d=1&hc=222&rt=keyword |
| # | 12:15:51 | dbs | now to try a few different browsers |
| # | 12:17:21 | dbs | works in FF3, Opera 9.whatever |
| # | 12:19:02 | dbs | Konq 4.1.4 |
| # | 12:19:51 | miker_ | k ... so, we messed up the second test in the previous fix |
| # | 12:19:57 | dbs | Safari 3.1... |
| # | 12:20:03 | miker_ | I'll commit james' patch |
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| # | 12:21:34 | dbs | miker_++ # naw, we were just focused on the problem case and didn't try the plain-jane case. happens. now we have a patch that works for everyone |
| # | 12:22:48 | dbs | I'm spoiled, I want a 16-core, 48GB, RAID1+0 laptop. |
| # | 12:23:00 | dbs | battery life would be measured in nanoseconds though. |
| # | 12:24:34 | dbs | IE7 checks in okay too |
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| # | 12:28:47 | dchristens | evergreen can use SIP for those self-checkout stations, correct? (configured as per http://www.evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-admin:sip) |
| # | 12:29:34 | miker_ | dchristens: indeed |
| # | 12:30:11 | dchristens | we have a subscription to OverDrive (ebooks/eaudio), which can apparently authenticate users via SIP.... |
| # | 12:30:28 | dchristens | ... anyone have experience with that? |
| # | 12:30:50 | dchristens | <grin> |
| # | 12:31:26 | miker_ | ha! ... no, haven't heard of that yet |
| # | 12:32:25 | dchristens | heh. the dokuwiki suggests creating SIP users profile group, which I don't think we'd need.... |
| # | 12:32:38 | dchristens senses some documentation diving in his future |
| # | 12:33:09 | phasefx | some PINES folks are using overdrive, but I don't think anything special was done re: Evergreen |
| # | 12:33:35 | phasefx | probably have some bibs with fake holdings and a link out to the overdrive site |
| # | 12:34:27 | miker_ | dchristens: you will want a usr group for that. there are EG "users" that connect the sip2 server to eg-proper |
| # | 12:34:45 | miker_ | they act like a staff account, that can look up info on patrons |
| # | 12:34:57 | dchristens | Ah, most excellent. Thanks, guys :-) |
| # | 12:35:18 | miker_ | with sip you have to connect as a staff-ish user (a "vendor" account, say) that has permission to check on a user |
| # | 12:35:46 | dchristens doesn't mind the journey if he's pointed in the right direction |
| # | 12:36:30 | dchristens | Hrm... one "OverDrive user-checker" account that has rights to look up users.....? |
| # | 12:36:42 | dchristens | Very cool. |
| # | 12:38:33 | miker_ | right, basically ... a "SIP2 Vendor" group to toss those into would be good, I think |
| # | 12:38:51 | miker_ | you'll want an account per vendor connection |
| # | 12:39:02 | dchristens | that makes sense :-) |
| # | 12:39:23 | miker_ | so, if you have a consortium of 10 library systems, and they all have their own contract with overdrive, then you'll want 10 users, one for each contract |
| # | 12:39:31 | miker_ | with the appropriate home/work orgs |
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| # | 12:41:49 | dchristens | and likely the *only* perm this group would need would be VIEW_USER (he says, taking a wag at it) |
| # | 12:42:37 | dbs | dchristens: I can attest that the wiki docs on setting up a SIP server for Evergreen are excellent; ran through them a few weeks ago and all tested out nicely |
| # | 12:43:20 | dchristens | miker_++, phasefx++, dbs++ thanks again.... I'm going to go play with this :-D |
| # | 12:44:26 | dbs | berick++ # (I think he wrote the wiki page in question) |
| # | 12:44:50 | dchristens | berick++ |
| # | 12:44:55 | dchristens | :-)\ |
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| # | 14:29:39 | natschil | hello, does PINES have a z39.50 server that I could import records from? |
| # | 14:33:50 | dbs | natschil: probably not, Z39.50 server support in Evergreen is pretty bleeding edge |
| # | 14:34:41 | dbs | natschil: maybe add biblios as a general z39.50 source? it's in trunk, can't remember whether it's in 1.4 |
| # | 14:35:17 | natschil | yup, I did that |
| # | 14:42:28 | miker_ | natschil: PINES turned off the Z server in their previous product, btw, so I don't know that they'll be turning it on |
| # | 14:43:28 | natschil | the thing is just that PINES seems to have books that biblio & co don't have, so I was wondering whether I could import books from there |
| # | 14:45:00 | phasefx | natschil: you can definitely snag the marcxml from any Evergreen OPAC, and I suppose import it through Vandelay |
| # | 14:45:25 | natschil | sorry, but what exacly is vandelay? |
| # | 14:45:39 | phasefx | codename for the Cataloging -> Import Records thingy |
| # | 14:45:39 | miker_ | natschil: import/export tool |
| # | 14:45:58 | natschil | is it evergreen-specific? |
| # | 14:46:01 | natschil | how do I use it? |
| # | 14:46:21 | miker_ | given a pile of MARC records, you upload them for batch import |
| # | 14:47:13 | phasefx | natschil: for gathering the records from PINES, it'd be easier if you were a patron and could access the bookbags (do you have a Georgia PINES card?) |
| # | 14:47:49 | natschil | phasefx: seeing that I'm in Sudan, and have never been to Georgia in my life.....no :) |
| # | 14:50:03 | phasefx | that was my bet :) to grab a marcxml file, easiest thing to do then is to search an Evergreen instance using the Basic HTML interface (codename "slimpac").. then when you find a record or set of records, change the url so that s/htmlholdings-full/marcxml/ or s/html-full/marcxml/ |
| # | 14:50:55 | phasefx | with bookbags you could gather all the titles up first and then grab the marcxml |
| # | 14:51:24 | dbs | phasefx: or a super-simple crawl of all the records with curl :) |
| # | 14:52:03 | jeff | -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =- |
| # | 14:52:37 | dbs noticed for the first time today that bookbags link back to skin=default lang=en-US |
| # | 14:53:07 | natschil | and then I just download the marc record and import it? it seems a bit complicated for the end-user (librarian/cataloger) it might be possible to somewhat automate the whole thing with a couple of scripts though |
| # | 14:53:14 | phasefx | dbs: didn't really want to encourage a wholesale slurping :D |
| # | 14:53:15 | dbs | it will probably be added to my to-do list to make it appear in the user's default skin and user's preferred language |
| # | 14:53:30 | dbs | phasefx: don't let oclc know! |
| # | 14:54:24 | phasefx | natschil: yeah, it's definitely a workaround for someone not offering a z-server :) |
| # | 15:16:01 | natschil | does mods_slim have any references to the 700 marc subfield (Additional Author)? |
| # | 15:25:54 | miker_ | natschil: I believe it will pull those in if there is not 1xx author |
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| # | 15:27:19 | natschil | how would I get these authors? I heard $modsobject->author returns a list of all authors, but somehow it doesn't seem to get all of the authors, only the first author. |
| # | 15:28:04 | dbs | natschil: you're probably sick of hearing this by now, but mods_slim is defined by ModsParser.pm and the mvr format is defined in fm_IDL.xml |
| # | 15:30:28 | natschil goes back to look at fm_IDL.xml |
| # | 15:31:25 | natschil | somehow I can't seem to make heads or tails out of ModsParser.pm, but if it is, indeed, the answer to how to get stuff from mods_slim records, maybe its worth looking at again |
| # | 15:32:07 | miker_ | natschil: [part of] the key is the xpath hash at the top |
| # | 15:32:36 | natschil | top of ModsParser.pm? |
| # | 15:33:32 | dbs | aye |
| # | 15:33:39 | r123 | hey is the jeff who's working on the live feed to website of newest books out there right now? |
| # | 15:33:47 | jeff | r123: hi. |
| # | 15:34:22 | jeff | r123: miker just checked some things into svn last week or this weekend that you may be interested in, and i continue to work on how we're doing things on our new website. |
| # | 15:34:27 | r123 | hi |
| # | 15:34:34 | jeff | r123: and i think i gave you a link to what John at branch district library did? |
| # | 15:35:14 | r123 | jeff: don't recall a link, sorry been kinda nuts here |
| # | 15:36:21 | jeff | r123: there's a link to what branch has in place here: http://www.mlcnet.org/wiki/index.php/How-To's |
| # | 15:36:39 | jeff | r123: includes a description of a report that generates a csv, and then php that parses that csv for display |
| # | 15:37:00 | r123 | jeff: cool! |
| # | 15:37:24 | jeff | i've been "on vacation", but am back at things as of today :) |
| # | 15:38:01 | r123 | jeff: that's what i heard, this is a great site, thanks! |
| # | 15:39:06 | natschil | all the values I can get from mods_slim objects are found in the "mvr" class, right? (of fm_IDL.xml). There are some things such as the publication location that aren't included there...it looks like I might need to use the complete marc then |
| # | 15:39:47 | r123 | jeff: the stuff checked into svn by miker, sorry to be dense, but do you know where i'd find them in svn, like a filename |
| # | 15:40:08 | dbs | natschil: or you can modify fm_IDL.xml and ModsParser.pm and add what you want to mvr |
| # | 15:40:57 | jeff | r123: sure, sorry. meant to link: http://svn.evergreen-ils.org/trac/ILS/changeset/12906 |
| # | 15:42:06 | r123 | jeff: thanks again |
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| # | 15:42:44 | jeff | r123: 'welcome! |
| # | 15:43:21 | natschil | dbs: ok, but I think I'll want to try and change as few files as possible, so that I don't get confused about what I did later on....thanks anyway, I've got to g now, as it's getting late here |
| # | 15:43:27 | dbs | k |
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| # | 16:10:37 | dbs | meh. our load balancer people don't think the combination of multiple hostnames + SSL is tenable |
| # | 16:11:33 | dbs | (not with valid SSL certs, anyway). concat.ca uber alles? |
| # | 16:13:29 | isard | dbs: doesn't sound good |
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| # | 16:14:00 | berick | dbs: concat.ca is pretty darn fast. just doin some searches |
| # | 16:15:05 | dbs | r123: their suggestion was to setup another apache web server to handle the multiple domains and redirect from that to concat.ca. but how the hell does that resolve the "don't proxy" situation that we're already in? |
| # | 16:15:47 | dbs | berick: yeah - that's almost untuned postgresql. 6GB shared buffers out of 48GB RAM is one of the only vars I've touched so far. |
| # | 16:16:21 | r123 | dbs: hard to tell without knowing exactly what the "load balancer" actually is / does |
| # | 16:16:52 | dbs | tried cranking to the recommended 25% 12GB, but ran into some serious shmmax constraints that I decided to stop futzing with after half an hour of failures |
| # | 16:16:58 | dbs | will go back to tuning when things slow down :) |
| # | 16:18:00 | r123 | dbs: i've worked with some load balancers that are just linux boxes cut down to run a beefed up version of iptables. a box like that shouldn't have a problem with multiple certs. guess that's not the case here |
| # | 16:19:00 | dbs | so r123, it sounds like catalogue.algomau.ca will suffer an invalid cert warning when people try to log in. this would be a great problem for somebody other than "mr. network basic", aka "me", to tackle |
| # | 16:19:35 | r123 | dbs: want me to give mark a call in Guelph? |
| # | 16:20:24 | dbs | r123: i'm dealing with bosco, who's dealing with dennis... maybe you could talk with bosco? |
| # | 16:20:47 | r123 | dbs: ok, will get in touch with him asap |
| # | 16:21:40 | r123 | dbs: i'm guessing that the connection is secur up to the new apache machine and then when they go back to concat they do that in the clear, or something like that if i'm understanding the problem correctly |
| # | 16:21:53 | dbs | r123++ # apologies for any networking experts who are rolling their eyes at me |
| # | 16:22:36 | dbs | r123: right now they're establishing & terminating the SSL connection at the load balancer; load balancer <-> apache is plain HTTP |
| # | 16:23:32 | dbs | pass-through aka port forwarding mode would establish and terminate the SSL connections at the apache server, but they don't believe there's any way in that configuration to have valid certs with multiple hostnames |
| # | 16:23:49 | dbs | thus, concat.ca uber alles |
| # | 16:24:04 | dbs | excuse me, über älles |
| # | 16:24:34 | r123 | dbs: weird, sounds like the load balancer is a "network appliance" type of thing with some limited functionality, lemme talk to bosco |
| # | 16:24:53 | dbs | r123: maybe, go r123 go |
| # | 16:25:30 | r123 | :) |
| # | 16:25:44 | r123 | i'll be right back |
| # | 16:26:16 | dbs | r123: i'll forward you the email thread for context |
| # | 16:26:33 | r123 | dbs: perfect |
| # | 16:27:06 | miker_ | fwiw, PINES uses LVS in front of several apache servers (port forwarding) and it works fine, even with different host names (named vhost with individual SSL configs) |
| # | 16:27:27 | miker_ | so, a cert per name, a named vhost per, um, name |
| # | 16:30:01 | _bott_ | We use LVS similar to PINES, with a wildcard cert matching any hostname within the domain. |
| # | 16:30:24 | dbs | miker_: that's what I thought, but my confidence crumbles in the face of those who actually work with this stuff on on a daily basis |
| # | 16:30:32 | r123 | miker_: yeah LVS is pretty cool. it's similar to the load balancer we used out in Africa, that could do certs per name, wonder what they've got in guelph |
| # | 16:30:33 | dbs | miker_++ |
| # | 16:30:37 | sylvar_home | dbs: actually, über alles, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutschlandlied ... ä would be pronounced like the a of at, not the a of all. :) |
| # | 16:30:53 | sylvar_home is an unrepentant linguist |
| # | 16:31:01 | dbs | sylvar: i just like ümläüts |
| # | 16:31:14 | dbs | _bott_++ |
| # | 16:31:19 | dbs | thanks guys |
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| # | 16:45:58 | dbs | jeff++ # my kinda patch |
| # | 16:46:03 | jeff | hah |
| # | 16:46:24 | jeff | trying to keep my local working copy from drifting too far. |
| # | 16:51:41 | dbs | jeff++ # better to fix them typos now, especially in API names, than in one or two years when Evergreen adoption has exploded and we're stuck with them |
| # | 16:53:02 | berick wonders why dijit.form.Textarea's don't work in xulrunner |
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| # | 16:59:58 | jeff | dbs: HTTP_REFERER, anyone? :) |
| # | 17:00:15 | r123 | hey anyone hear about this (sorry I don't have a link): |
| # | 17:00:19 | r123 | Open Source ILS: Ready for Prime Time? DC/SLA event at EPA |
| # | 17:00:21 | r123 | East on May 13th |
| # | 17:00:22 | r123 | Open Source ILS: |
| # | 17:00:24 | r123 | Ready for Prime Time? |
| # | 17:00:26 | r123 | May 13, 2009 |
| # | 17:00:28 | r123 | Patrick Jones of Progressive Technology Federal Systems (PTFS |
| # | 17:00:29 | r123 | <http://www.ptfs.com/home.aspx> ), will provide a review of the current |
| # | 17:00:31 | r123 | state of the art of Open Source (free) Integrated Library Systems, |
| # | 17:00:32 | r123 | focusing on Evergreen and Koha. He will also provide insight and tips on |
| # | 17:00:34 | r123 | how to evaluate and implement an Open Source ILS based upon his |
| # | 17:00:37 | r123 | extensive experience in the ILS marketplace with both Federal and |
| # | 17:00:38 | r123 | non-Federal libraries. |
| # | 17:00:40 | r123 | Patrick Jones has over twenty years of experience in library software |
| # | 17:00:41 | r123 | solutions, information system integration, data conversion & migration, |
| # | 17:00:43 | r123 | and ILS implementation management. Prior work experience includes |
| # | 17:00:45 | r123 | Carnegie-Mellon University, Florida State University, University of |
| # | 17:00:46 | r123 | Pittsburgh, Dynix, SirsiDynix, Endeavor, OCLC, and PTFS. Mr. Jones |
| # | 17:00:48 | r123 | provides a vendor-side perspective that benefits libraries as they make |
| # | 17:00:49 | r123 | library system/software selection and procurement decisions. |
| # | 17:00:55 | dbs | r123: use http://paste.lisp.org/new/openils-evergreen next time :) |
| # | 17:02:17 | dbs | I would like to see a demonstration of PTFS's competence with Evergreen or Koha before paying attention to what they have to say |
| # | 17:02:18 | jeff | those are the people with the trademark dispute over koha, right? |
| # | 17:03:00 | dbs | jeff: yeah, I think something like that |
| # | 17:05:15 | r123 | sorry! |
| # | 17:05:35 | r123 | not good at multi tasking |
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| # | 17:12:30 | dbs | r123: augh, looks like only my part of the conversation got forwarded to you? doh! |
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| # | 17:12:36 | dbs | Branflakes! |
| # | 17:12:51 | Branflakes | dbs == long time no see |
| # | 17:14:54 | dbs | Branflakes: please tell me you'll be at the EG Conference? |
| # | 17:16:34 | Branflakes | dbs: You'll be at the EG Conference. |
| # | 17:16:51 | dbs | hah! |
| # | 17:16:54 | Branflakes | gracie++ |
| # | 17:17:00 | Branflakes | dbs: yes I will |
| # | 17:17:12 | dbs | Sitka++ |
| # | 17:17:40 | dbs | (for letting Branflakes loose again) |
| # | 17:17:51 | Branflakes | more like --my_wallet, but the company is good, so it's worth it :) |
| # | 17:21:35 | Branflakes | has anybody been talking about centralized notifications lately? |
| # | 17:23:23 | jeff | depends. notifications of what, and centralized in what way? :) |
| # | 17:24:15 | Branflakes | Notifications of everything (holds, overdues, courtesy notices). |
| # | 17:24:39 | dbs | Branflakes: not sure about talking about it, but I think the action/hook event infrastructure that berick and miker_ have been building is oriented towards that (amongst other things) |
| # | 17:25:03 | Branflakes | This is based on Bill's proposal at http://www.evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=feature:notifications? |
| # | 17:25:35 | berick | Branflakes: roughly, but it's evolved a lot since then |
| # | 17:26:02 | Branflakes | Ok, we have a developer at one of our member sites who may be interested in working on this piece. |
| # | 17:26:07 | Branflakes | What should I have him do? |
| # | 17:26:39 | dbs | maybe it's time the evergreen-ils.org web site got all dojo-tabified (completely off-topic) |
| # | 17:27:54 | berick | Branflakes: get familiar with trunk and the new event/trigger stuff. (which i'd be glad to talk about the eg conf with whomever). |
| # | 17:28:02 | berick | it already supports email and customizable templates |
| # | 17:28:28 | Branflakes | ok, that will be me, probably. i will book time with a developer. |
| # | 17:28:31 | berick | it does not yet support telephony or print notices. we'll be working on the print stuff pretty soon, though. at least the basics |
| # | 17:28:51 | Branflakes | is there any documentation on installing trunk? |
| # | 17:29:08 | Branflakes | i've never actually tried, but i'm atypical in that I like to ask for directions before i get lost. |
| # | 17:29:14 | Branflakes | my girlfriend loves me for it ;-) |
| # | 17:29:57 | berick | Branflakes: heh... I created a doc for turning a 1.4 virtualbox image into a trunk dev environment: http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=dev:env:virtual&s[]=image&s[]=trunk |
| # | 17:29:57 | dbs | Branflakes: the 1.4 instructions pretty much work for trunk |
| # | 17:30:06 | berick | it's rough, and probably missing some stuff, though |
| # | 17:30:22 | dbs | a few variations like use dojo 1.3 |
| # | 17:30:23 | berick | but, yeah, what dbs said. the main difference is installing from svn instead of a release |
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| # | 17:31:53 | Branflakes | i'll give it a shot and see what happens |
| # | 17:33:11 | dbs | berick: what's with your BUILD_ID stuff, man? you don't like the default YYYYMMDD.HHMMSS format that much? :) |
| # | 17:33:47 | berick | dbs: oh, that was just so web UIs could ask the XUL what it's build ID is |
| # | 17:33:57 | dbs | ah, clever |
| # | 17:33:59 | berick | for constructing proper URLs |
| # | 17:35:07 | dbs | I'm tempted, in trunk at least, to automate the current / server XUL symlinks |
| # | 17:35:15 | berick | evergreen conference hackfest... WTH is going on? ;) |
| # | 17:35:59 | dbs | berick: it's not a hackfest if you know what you're doing before starting! heh. |
| # | 17:36:28 | dbs | also, fm_IDL.xml gets copied automatically as part of make install |
| # | 17:36:29 | berick | dbs: har. EVergreen conference "clock in and do your job" fest |
| # | 17:36:51 | dbs | "Hide from the crashing servers in Guelph" fest |
| # | 17:37:34 | berick | seriously, though, i guess people are just going to gather and we'll see what happens? |
| # | 17:40:26 | berick | ahh, kgs is filling me in on the details |
| # | 17:41:10 | kgs | dbs there are 12 folks who indicated coding hackfest interest on the survey |
| # | 17:41:30 | dbs | (and undoubtedly more like me who didn't touch the survey) |
| # | 17:41:38 | dbs | dbs-- |
| # | 17:44:34 | kgs | I was going to add, and the folks most interested in coding hackfests probably didn't do the survey ;) |
| # | 17:44:58 | kgs | we had 24 indicate interest in half-hour "meet with a developer" slots |
| # | 17:45:09 | kgs | and 29 interested in half-day sysadmin survival skills! |
| # | 17:45:21 | dbs | huh, I guess I should have looked at the survey |
| # | 17:45:53 | dbs | was there a 'meet with an incompetent developer' option? if so, I'm your man! |
| # | 17:46:40 | kgs | dude,you can still fill out the survey, cough :) |
| # | 17:47:06 | kgs | it's pretty interesting and it's in everyone's best interests to do so |
| # | 17:47:19 | kgs looks meaningfully at berick |
| # | 17:47:21 | berick does so |
| # | 17:47:35 | kgs | lol... scary... he read my mind! |
| # | 17:48:07 | kgs | I promise it goes fast. proof? 72 started the survey, 70 completed it. i rock surveys. |
| # | 17:50:40 | berick | ok, i give up... gmail can't find it, don't see it on lyrasis, don't see it on the wiki. how blind am I? |
| # | 17:54:55 | dbs | berick: maybe you're not registered for the conf? heh |
| # | 17:55:42 | berick | dbs: you're probably right |
| # | 17:55:53 | dbs | no hackfest for you! |
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| # | 17:56:13 | EGUEST870 | how do i create a server on evergreen |
| # | 17:56:40 | dbs | can I be "Not interested" in my own session? |
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| # | 17:57:36 | berick | dbs: i expect your best Ben Stein impersonation |
| # | 17:58:06 | sylvar_home | anyone? anyone? anyone? dbs? dbs? dbs? |
| # | 17:58:24 | dbs | no hablo espanol |
| # | 18:06:09 | dbs | Hopefully the 24 "meet with a developer" half-hour slots would be concurrent, we need those developers to be developing dangit |
| # | 18:07:03 | berick | i think for the hackfest, i'm just going to plug my laptop into a projector and work for 8 hours ;) |
| # | 18:07:19 | kgs | berick I might not even let you come to Athens ;) (just kidding) |
| # | 18:07:29 | kgs | "stay in NC and 'hackfest'!" |
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| # | 18:08:27 | kgs | dbs I also sent email with a draft of the new download page. when everyone's happy I'll then fix the code in the templates... a few glitches here and there. |
| # | 18:08:33 | berick | kgs: you know, i thought i was going to meet more resistence |
| # | 18:09:20 | kgs | to coming or not coming? hey... we can't all be everywhere all the time |
| # | 18:09:28 | kgs | you are presenting... |
| # | 18:09:29 | dbs | kgs: [17:26] <dbs> maybe it's time the evergreen-ils.org web site got all dojo-tabified (completely off-topic) |
| # | 18:09:48 | kgs | or poured into a cms |
| # | 18:09:58 | kgs | we've been having that talk |
| # | 18:10:08 | kgs | (maybe that's what dojo-tabified means, i dunno) |
| # | 18:10:10 | dbs | not incompatible |
| # | 18:10:26 | dbs | err, they're not mutually exclusive options I mean :) |
| # | 18:10:36 | kgs | it's a good community discussion to have |
| # | 18:11:05 | dbs | I pity whoever ends up setting up all the redirects for all of the dokuwiki links |
| # | 18:11:36 | kgs | yeah, though if it were one per page, that wouldn't be heinous |
| # | 18:12:33 | kgs | it's somebody's afternoon, basically |
| # | 18:13:00 | kgs | so propose it as a BoF or Table Talk! On the ... you know... SURVEY |
| # | 18:16:07 | kgs | ok palz, I'm off for my afternoon weight-bearing run... |
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| # | 18:56:34 | EGUEST635 | how do you install the evergren server for free |
| # | 18:56:38 | EGUEST635 | thankyou ever much |
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| # | 18:59:30 | EGUEST635 | hello does anyone know how to install the server |
| # | 19:01:32 | dbs | EGUEST635: http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=server:1.4.0:install |
| # | 19:03:03 | dbs | huh, why does money.billing have both a non-nullable billing_type TEXT column and an FK of btype -> config.billing_type? seems abnormalized :) |
| # | 19:04:48 | EGUEST635 | do i have to have linux to have the evergreen server? |
| # | 19:06:07 | phase_bb | Short answer is yes, long answer is no |
| # | 19:07:11 | EGUEST635 | so i type all of this info in the terminal and it will work |
| # | 19:07:23 | EGUEST635 | any body can help me would be wonderful |
| # | 19:07:56 | dbs | it's probably not a good idea to try Evergreen if you're not comfortable with Linux, to be completely honest |
| # | 19:08:25 | EGUEST635 | i know linux |
| # | 19:08:36 | EGUEST635 | i just dont understand how to install this server |
| # | 19:08:40 | EGUEST635 | everything in linux i understand |
| # | 19:08:49 | EGUEST635 | else in linux |
| # | 19:10:10 | EGUEST635 | does anyone know who i could call for this |
| # | 19:10:14 | EGUEST635 | that does not cost |
| # | 19:10:17 | EGUEST635 | please |
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| # | 19:11:29 | phase_bb | dbs: text column is the key? I think circ mod is doing that too |
| # | 19:12:37 | dbs | phase_bb: no, it's not another INT -> TEXT mismatch; this is weird sort of duplication |
| # | 19:12:39 | phase_bb | Oh btype |
| # | 19:12:58 | dbs | like billing_type was going to be removed from money.billing, but hasn't quite happened yet |
| # | 19:13:02 | dbs | yeah |
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| # | 19:49:00 | dbs | phasefx: btw, adding a config.billing_type entry resolved that staff client error, as you suggested |
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| # | 20:09:11 | miker_ | @later tell dbs yeah ... I'm hesitant to remove the text column until I have figured out the proper upgrade process that doesn't take 100 hours |
| # | 20:09:11 | pinesol | miker_: The operation succeeded. |
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| # | 22:38:59 | bott_otr | can anyone remind me of the srfsh request to determine the running EG version? |
| # | 22:40:35 | dbs | bott_otr: uno second |
| # | 22:42:08 | dbs | opensrf.open-ils.system.ils_version (in OpenILS::Application) it seems |
| # | 22:42:49 | bott_otr | That looks familiar! dbs++ |
| # | 22:47:10 | dbs | miker_: hah! so in the meantime you're spreading the pain to the rest of us... (I kid, I kid!) |
| # | 22:47:20 | dbs | happy to help, bott_otr |
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| # | 23:08:04 | dbs | heh, ou-picker in reports folder interface is a wee bit screwed up in trunk; keeps adding another copy of the OUs when you click on another report folder |
| # | 23:14:04 | jeff | mysql-- |
| # | 23:14:27 | jeff | dbs: i've seen that all the way back to 1.2 |
| # | 23:14:40 | jeff | dbs: never chased it down much, though |
| # | 23:14:59 | dbs | jeff: hmm, we should probably file a bug report for it then |
| # | 23:16:01 | dbs really wants to tackle recuring_* typo fix in trunk, perhaps an equivalent to HTTP_REFERER :) |
| # | 23:17:34 | jeff | oh yeah, that was the one i was thinking of... i remember seeing some commit comment or irc reference saying "we should probably fix that sometime" |
| # | 23:19:29 | dbs | makes me think of a cleric imposing penalties on the rest of his part for getting reinjured |
| # | 23:21:27 | jeff | oh yuck, that's going to need an sql upgrade script to fix, too. |
| # | 23:22:03 | dbs | oh yes. bigtime |
| # | 23:22:25 | dbs | pervasive little typo : |
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April 10-13