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| # | 00:00:32 | granthpal | Also, I have observed that if I change the marc records after adding a holding, the opac doesnt absorb the changes |
| # | 00:01:07 | phasefx | search results get cached by memcached for a time.. try appending new terms to your search (like -sdfsadf) to force a new search |
| # | 00:01:32 | phasefx | I forget what the default cache time is.. 5 minutes maybe |
| # | 00:02:19 | granthpal | say for eg, I am attempting to keep all jacket covers locally with isbn-13 for their names... but at times some records get imported with the isbn-10 field... later when I change the marc to isbn-13, the image still doesnt get picked up |
| # | 00:03:34 | phasefx | I think all the added content providers accomodate only a single ISBN, so that's all that gets encoded in the various URL's used to fetch the data. It's probably the first or last ISBN in a record that gets used |
| # | 00:03:42 | granthpal | btw guys, meslib.com (India) is nigh online.. test runs for checkin-checkout have been successful !! |
| # | 00:03:51 | phasefx | awesome |
| # | 00:03:57 | granthpal | :) cheers to the Pines team !!! |
| # | 00:04:56 | granthpal | 10 months and so much more to learn... :) |
| # | 00:05:26 | phasefx | you guys going to work on translations? |
| # | 00:07:30 | granthpal | most libraries use english transliteration.. but I can well imagine a few major languages that may want to use translations -- hindi, tamil, malayalam to name a few |
| # | 00:08:20 | phasefx | cool. I've always liked the sound of "punjabi" :) |
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| # | 08:35:20 | phasefx | denials: the missing border for groupbox's in linux xulrunner, it's an inherited theme thing, apparently catering to the gnome HIG, etc. |
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| # | 09:01:51 | mrpeters-isl | hey guys, any chance http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-admin:customizations:opac could be updated with info on how to change the default links (About PINES, GALILEO, etc) on the OPAC? |
| # | 09:03:20 | miker_ | mrpeters-isl: I assume you've discoved how to do that? (adjusting the footer and index templates) |
| # | 09:03:35 | phasefx | we should really put something generic in the main codebase, and have the PINES/Georgia strings be in contrib |
| # | 09:03:36 | mrpeters-isl | i havent :) thats why i was hoping someone might update it |
| # | 09:03:41 | phasefx | opac.dtd has the strings, I think |
| # | 09:04:18 | phasefx | but maybe not the link values? |
| # | 09:05:13 | phasefx | hrmm.. I wonder if setting footer.union.url and footer.union both to "" in opac.dtd would work |
| # | 09:14:16 | mrpeters-isl | ill tinker around now that i know which file to play with :) |
| # | 09:14:52 | mrpeters-isl | any idea when the new OPAC skin will be released for some testing? |
| # | 09:15:00 | mrpeters-isl | id like to throw it on my dev server to demo/test |
| # | 09:21:19 | phasefx | I know it's in the 1.4 branch, but I don't know when it'll be in a cut release |
| # | 09:21:57 | mrpeters-isl | 10-4 |
| # | 09:22:28 | mrpeters-isl | if anyone has a free second, hit opac at 208.119.72.66 and try a search...im getting an error, but im not sure if its just on my end? |
| # | 09:22:48 | phasefx | sure thing |
| # | 09:23:10 | ejk[aadl] | Error parsing JSON [SyntaxError: missing } after property list] |
| # | 09:23:19 | mrpeters-isl | yep...dang |
| # | 09:24:05 | phasefx | "no tsearch config" seems pertinent |
| # | 09:26:07 | phasefx | mrpeters-isl: do you have a public.pg_ts_cfg in the database? |
| # | 09:26:49 | mrpeters-isl | let me check |
| # | 09:28:58 | miker_ | looks like you didn't get everything from the previous db. is it Pg 8.2? |
| # | 09:29:06 | miker_ | or 8.3 |
| # | 09:29:10 | mrpeters-isl | 8.2 |
| # | 09:29:13 | mrpeters-isl | imported the backkup you gave me |
| # | 09:30:00 | miker_ | you may need to run Open-ILS/src/sql/Pg/000.english.pg82.fts-config.sql |
| # | 09:30:09 | miker_ | available in any recent tarball |
| # | 09:31:10 | mrpeters-isl | i do have public.pg_ts_cfg table |
| # | 09:32:59 | miker_ | mrpeters-isl: yeah, but you don't have the required contents |
| # | 09:33:08 | miker_ | ok ... biab |
| # | 09:33:09 | mrpeters-isl | yeah, running your suggestion now |
| # | 09:33:39 | mrpeters-isl | permission denied on that file as postgres? |
| # | 09:34:54 | miker_ | mrpeters-isl: make sure the postres user can read the file on the filesystem |
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| # | 09:35:18 | mrpeters-isl | yeah....it was that i didnt have the -f switch after psql |
| # | 09:35:33 | mrpeters-isl | ok, thats done....restart services? |
| # | 09:36:54 | mrpeters-isl | no more JSON error, but i get a never ending search progress bar |
| # | 09:37:29 | mrpeters-isl | ah, there it is...wow...60 seconds to search |
| # | 09:39:17 | phasefx | mrpeters-isl: see http://coffeecode.net/archives/165-Heating-up-Evergreen-search.html |
| # | 09:39:51 | mrpeters-isl | thanks :) |
| # | 09:43:24 | mrpeters-isl | are the steps for setting up reporter required for 1.2.3.1? |
| # | 09:43:33 | mrpeters-isl | in the Ubuntu 8.04 server install instructions |
| # | 09:57:36 | phasefx | something is likely required.. maybe the reporter steps in the 1.2 on ubuntu 7.10 doc? |
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| # | 11:23:15 | natschil | hello, is there a way in which I can customise what is shown in the Record summary, i.e I want to show the dewey number of the book in the Record summary, to make it easier for people to find the book after they have searched for it |
| # | 11:23:17 | natschil | ? |
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| # | 11:25:14 | phasefx | natschil: hey, if it's just in Record Summary, you can do what UPEI does and pull down the entire bib record in XML format and parse it client-side.. that'll take some javascript work with your templates |
| # | 11:25:47 | phasefx | well, assuming the dewey number is the bib record |
| # | 11:26:05 | phasefx | if you want to make call numbers more prominent, that's something else |
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| # | 11:29:20 | natschil | UPEI? |
| # | 11:29:56 | natschil | well, currently the call number is not shown in the record summary, so I was wondering if there were a way to include it |
| # | 11:30:15 | EGUEST685 | Upgrading Evergreen 1.4.0 to 1.4.0.2, is there a problems with indexdata.dk site. the connection keeps timing out. |
| # | 11:30:43 | phasefx | natschil: the call number should be shown in the Copy Summary area beneath the Record Summary.. do you see that? |
| # | 11:31:49 | natschil | yes, but is there a way to e.g put it under the "title row" in the OPAC |
| # | 11:31:53 | phasefx | EGUEST685: hrmm.. if that's through CPAN, they have network tests during install that hit against indexdata.dk.. which is not good when the site is actually down. Are you familiar with going into CPAN .build/ to install things? |
| # | 11:32:38 | dbs | EGUEST685: you can always download the file yourself and place it in the directory |
| # | 11:32:57 | dbs | (if you're talking about compiling yaz-3.0.38.tar.gz) |
| # | 11:32:59 | EGUEST685 | Phasefx, I am not familiar with CPAN. |
| # | 11:33:12 | EGUEST685 | dbs, yes the yaz-3.0.38.tar.gz file |
| # | 11:33:50 | phasefx | natschil: you could, but it'll take some javascript-fu |
| # | 11:34:03 | dbs | EGUEST685: yeah, just download http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/yaz/yaz-3.0.38.tar.gz and place it in the directory you're invoking Makefile.install from |
| # | 11:34:28 | EGUEST685 | dbs, okay |
| # | 11:34:44 | phasefx | natschil: I would build a hash and populate it as the normal call number rows render.. put a .watch on it to update a Call Number row under Title |
| # | 11:35:03 | dbs | (assuming that your web browser or whatever won't time out like wget appears to be doing) - the Makefile checks for the existence of the file before trying to download it if I recall correctly |
| # | 11:36:02 | phasefx | natschil: some thought would be warranted if you're dealing with multiple libraries |
| # | 11:36:18 | natschil | phasefx: sorry, but I am not sure what you are saying :). I know a little bit of javascript, and could try and edit the file concerned. Which file would I need to edit? |
| # | 11:36:46 | phasefx | natschil: that I'm not sure.. I'm not familiar with the OPAC code. Probably some .js referenced by rdetail.xml |
| # | 11:36:49 | dbs | rdetail.js and rdetail/... something(off the top of my head) |
| # | 11:36:52 | natschil | no, I am currently not dealing with multiple libraries, but I might expand the current system to multiple libraries at a mich later date |
| # | 11:37:09 | natschil | ok, I'll see |
| # | 11:37:11 | natschil | Thanks |
| # | 11:37:20 | phasefx | natschil: good luck, let us know what you come up with |
| # | 11:37:21 | natschil | i meant: much later date |
| # | 11:37:27 | natschil | ok, thanks |
| # | 11:37:53 | dbs | natschil: http://coffeecode.net/archives/183-Evergreen-Exposed-introduction-to-Evergreen-development-OLA-2009.html might be helpful (or not) |
| # | 11:40:03 | natschil | btw, I am running evergreen in a relatively small library (5000 books or so), and it is quite slow. I think it is because the server has quite little ram. I will try to get some more ram, but is there another way I can make evergreen faster? |
| # | 11:40:24 | natschil | I have edited the apache config files to make it run less instances of apache already |
| # | 11:41:26 | dbs | How much RAM do you have? What, specifically, is slow? |
| # | 11:42:06 | dbs | biab |
| # | 11:42:22 | natschil | well, at the moment I have around 500Mb, and I am running a samba server using ldap on the same system. Well, starting up evergreen is very slow especially |
| # | 11:42:46 | natschil | also generally, it takes quite long for evergreen to respond. |
| # | 11:43:06 | natschil | 500Mb is probably just not enough :) |
| # | 11:50:28 | phasefx | natschil: yeah, I bet you're swapping into virtual memory. One user using the site at a time on average? |
| # | 11:50:39 | EGUEST685 | Appreciate your help, downloaded the file and everything is look okay at this point. Thanks, LaBon |
| # | 11:59:57 | natschil | phasefx: Well, the library in question is that of a College. This college has less than 10 computers. One of these computers works as a server, and has evergreen on it. There will usually be no users, but probably at some times there will be more users, (5-6). Later on, if the college gets a FQDN, there might be more users coming from the internet as well. |
| # | 12:00:33 | natschil | i.e there will be peak times sometimes where quite a few users use evergreen. |
| # | 12:13:14 | dbs | natschil: oof. 500 MB is definitely not enough. if you can spare the hundred bucks or so to pop it up to 2GB, that would help |
| # | 12:13:31 | dbs | biab gain |
| # | 12:24:15 | natschil | yeah, I was already planning to get 2GB of ram. But still, as evergreen is built for much bigger libraries, is there a way to improve how well it runs in a smaller library? |
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| # | 13:10:16 | granthpal | natschil: small things fit into big spaces pretty easily.. and not viceversa :) |
| # | 13:11:18 | granthpal | for a small library reduce ur apache processes to five rather than the specified 15... ea process consumes c50mb |
| # | 13:12:31 | granthpal | dbs: /reporter/ folder still not found... have bypassed via symlink from the opac folder... would be better to find the issue.. any ken ?? |
| # | 13:20:37 | natschil | granthpal :) thanks |
| # | 13:22:32 | dbs | granthpal: cd /openils/var/web/xul; ln -sf rel_1_4_2_0/server server |
| # | 13:23:51 | dbs | In any case, 512 MB of RAM is ridiculously low for a machine running a relational database, web server, Jabber server, and LDAP server |
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| # | 13:56:14 | dbs | miker_: how much impact does that off-by-one error have on day-to-day functionality? |
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| # | 14:12:54 | granthpal | dbs: server -> rel_1_4_0_1/ already exists |
| # | 14:13:38 | dbs | rm server; ln -sf rel_1_4_0_1/server server |
| # | 14:13:54 | granthpal | so do i get client 1402 ? |
| # | 14:15:23 | granthpal | done :( |
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| # | 14:17:22 | dbs | granthpal: well, you'll want to install 1.4.0.2 eventually anyway, but you get the idea |
| # | 14:17:34 | granthpal | dbs: still naught |
| # | 14:17:46 | dbs | reports were working in 1.4.0.1, with the exception of the "View report" button, so I don't know why it's not working for you |
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| # | 14:25:57 | granthpal | reports are coming thro.. in the reporter folder... but cant get to them thro the reporter folder :( |
| # | 14:26:23 | granthpal | ie the site/reporter/ folder |
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| # | 14:27:04 | granthpal | also vandelay is delayed :( |
| # | 14:27:26 | granthpal | still getting the busyBar |
| # | 14:29:03 | granthpal | dbs: things are moving real fast... third upgrade w/in a month :) I dont visit the site for a few days.. and voila the chatzone speaks new version :) :) :) |
| # | 14:49:55 | miker_ | dbs: sorry, had stepped away. the one I fixed this morning? |
| # | 14:52:41 | miker_ | dbs: assuming so, none, since that was in trunk :) (and I don't think anything earlier than trunk was making use of searchValueTransform) ... but for trunk, it would break ... some stuff. it broke something of berick's, which is how we found it, but it was a very recent change (last couple days) |
| # | 14:52:43 | dbs | miker_: yeah - don't worry man |
| # | 15:04:37 | granthpal | dbs: the opensrf.xml seems to have been truncated heavily in opensrf104 ... <z3950> is gone......... going thro the code to see more changes ! |
| # | 15:05:01 | dbs | opensrf.xml in OpenSRF is way different than opensrf.xml in Evergreen |
| # | 15:05:19 | dbs | OpenSRF is an application framework; Evergreen is an OpenSRF application |
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| # | 16:19:21 | granthpal | Got that dbs... I am lost somewhere.. been a looong day |
| # | 16:20:39 | granthpal | btw, 1402 is working for me... yet the /reporter/ folder not found is still lurking around... see it anon.. ciao for now.. goodnight |
| # | 16:22:05 | dbs | good night |
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