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| # | 10:28:50 | LaBon | Good Morning. I am still having problems with the srfsh login authenication. I believe the problems is with step 17 of Ubuntu 8.04, Evergreen installation. I can see the OPAC and the staff client does register the hostname name server but login and password fails. |
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| # | 10:30:11 | dbs | argh - GeorgeD is complaining that his posts to open-ils-dev are getting bounced |
| # | 10:30:37 | dbs | (his posts include .po file attachments for updated fr-CA) |
| # | 10:33:16 | kgs | actually rejected? or just not appearing? |
| # | 10:34:08 | dbs | kgs: "I don't seem to be able to have any of my recent posts show up on the DEV-List, so here it is direct." |
| # | 10:34:15 | dbs | so "just not appearing" may be it |
| # | 10:34:44 | kgs thinnks |
| # | 10:34:52 | kgs | s/thinnks/thinks |
| # | 10:35:03 | kgs | are you mod for that dbs? |
| # | 10:35:08 | kgs | could be sitting in queue |
| # | 10:35:08 | dbs | nope |
| # | 10:35:16 | kgs | wonder if I'm one of the mods ;) |
| # | 10:35:22 | kgs | i'llcheck |
| # | 10:35:38 | dbs | also, it's coming from his work email address - perhaps he's not subscribed |
| # | 10:35:57 | dbs | blah@NRCan-RNCan.gc.ca |
| # | 10:37:00 | kgs | I'm not a mod for that list -- just for general and doc |
| # | 10:39:00 | kgs | ok I see three mods for that list -- I'll hit up bradl |
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| # | 10:40:59 | dbs | huh, compiling opensrf-trunk on ubuntu ibex dies with HOST_NAME_MAX not defined |
| # | 10:41:19 | wlayton_work | dbs: I think George is subscribe to -digest. I wonder if he's trying to send to 'open-ils-dev-owner' instead of 'open-ils-dev' |
| # | 10:41:42 | wlayton_work | dbs: yep, I got that same error on ibex, too. |
| # | 10:42:03 | dbs | wlayton_work: nope, he was sending to open-ils-dev@list.georgialibraries.org |
| # | 10:42:14 | wlayton_work | huh |
| # | 10:42:32 | dbs | wlayton_work: seems like adding an ifndef would be a simple workaround for that problem, but I wonder if there are deeper implications |
| # | 10:44:06 | kgs | fyi: from viewing the subscriber list, he's subbed as gduimovi@nrcan.gc.ca |
| # | 10:44:21 | kgs | and Mailman can be fussy |
| # | 10:45:03 | dbs | kgs: ahah - so his From: in the forwarded email was his full name with a . separator (and I was trying to keep his email address out of the IRC logs - lol) |
| # | 10:45:13 | kgs | oh :) |
| # | 10:45:14 | dbs | so it's all George's fault! |
| # | 10:45:15 | kgs | sorry |
| # | 10:46:54 | dbs | /usr/include/bits/local_lim.h defines HOST_NAME_MAX as 64 - that seems restrictive |
| # | 10:50:46 | miker_ | HOST_NAME_MAX is from a scott mck patch long ago. We used to just set a max (of 64, IIRC) but moved to depending on the system. Perhaps the definition moved to a different header in whatever libc or kernel is used on ibex |
| # | 10:51:08 | dbs | miker_: yep, from /usr/include/linux/limits.h to it's new location |
| # | 10:51:14 | dbs | s/'// |
| # | 10:52:00 | dbs | the right way to fix it would be in autotools... sigh |
| # | 10:52:35 | miker_ | well that's lame ... I guess we need to include "linux/limits.h", test for MAX_HOST_NAME (ifndef) and conditionally load "bits/local_lim.h" ? |
| # | 10:53:26 | dbs | maybe in AC_CHECK_HEADERS |
| # | 10:54:04 | dbs | miker_: that could work too |
| # | 10:55:45 | dbs | meeting - bbiab |
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| # | 15:07:20 | agJohn | Dumb question alert: OpenSRF/Evergreen can't re-establish a connection to the DB if this is lost (due to a network glitch, for instance) can they? |
| # | 15:11:48 | miker_ | agJohn: no, the backend will fail, report the error, and go away. if it's possible to connect, a second client request will do so (by spawning a new backend) |
| # | 15:12:29 | miker_ | that's to avoid an infinite retry loop ("but just try 3 times", but who says that's enough, for a multi-second outage (router reboot, etc)) |
| # | 15:13:51 | miker_ | anyway, because the typical use case is a LAN not much time has been invested in that |
| # | 15:14:02 | miker_ | that, being conditional retry. |
| # | 15:17:17 | agJohn | miker_: No, I assumed that was the case, and it makes sense not to spend much time on it. I just happened to crash the DB server on some test setups and immediately went and restarted the OpenSRF processes--then I wondered if maybe I didn't need to. I'm assuming at that point that the staff client must log back in, right? (Credentials now obsolete--I'll just try it some time.) |
| # | 15:18:16 | miker_ | nope, SC credentials are still fine |
| # | 15:18:24 | miker_ | they're stored in memcache |
| # | 15:18:39 | miker_ | no disk-backed session storage |
| # | 15:19:11 | miker_ | the cost of recording every activity in a "real" db would be ... high ;) |
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| # | 15:24:37 | lisppaste6 | phasefx pasted "runaway router log" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/70987 |
| # | 15:25:02 | phasefx_ | berick: ^^ This is on a local trunk install of EG |
| # | 15:25:50 | berick | phasefx_: jabber server thought the router was already connected. |
| # | 15:26:03 | berick | stop everything and make sure all arouters are dead |
| # | 15:26:08 | phasefx_ | roger roger |
| # | 15:27:33 | phasefx_ | that fixed her up. gracias |
| # | 15:34:18 | phasefx_ | harmless during build-db? psql:950.data.seed-values.sql:1445: ERROR: INSERT has more expressions than target columns |
| # | 15:37:58 | miker_ | phasefx_: no ... I'll look at that |
| # | 15:38:24 | miker_ | phasefx_: trunk or 1.4? |
| # | 15:39:58 | phasefx_ | trunk |
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| # | 16:17:04 | miker_ | phasefx_: did you rebuild the database from the matching sql? I assume so ... |
| # | 16:18:46 | miker_ | phasefx_: updated |
| # | 16:22:42 | phasefx_ | thanks. I have a trunk install of EG, and was using trunk build-db.sh |
| # | 16:26:22 | miker_ | right |
| # | 16:26:32 | miker_ | it should be happy now after an svn up |
| # | 16:26:48 | phasefx_ | yeapers |
| # | 16:39:20 | phasefx_ | berick: for the new standing penalties scheme, what's the easiest way to create scenarios to test? Can I still lower the maxItemsOut in circ_groups.js, or is it configured differently now? |
| # | 16:39:57 | berick | phasefx_: purely in the DB now. i'm working on the threshold def. interface now. basically, permission.grp_penalty_threshold |
| # | 16:40:18 | phasefx_ | k, thanks |
| # | 16:42:18 | phasefx_ | so if need be, that threshold is cast into an integer for certain penalties |
| # | 16:42:56 | miker_ | phasefx_: correct |
| # | 16:44:48 | phasefx_ | hrmm.. on a pre-cat checkout attempt: Not an ARRAY reference at /openils/lib/perl5/OpenILS/Application/Circ/Circulate.pm line 842. |
| # | 16:45:21 | berick looks |
| # | 16:49:07 | berick | arg, sorry, this piece of crap netgear + modem combo freaks out every day when (i assume) dhcp updates |
| # | 16:49:18 | berick | so i have to restart it |
| # | 16:49:21 | berick | phasefx_: try now, please |
| # | 16:50:31 | jeff | okay, so phone notification for holds defaults to the daytime phone number for a patron, which is cached when logging in to the opac. |
| # | 16:50:46 | jeff | correct me if i'm wrong, but i think that's what i just observed/tested. :) |
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| # | 16:51:41 | miker_ | jeff: what do you mean "cached"? |
| # | 16:52:02 | miker_ | jeff: the phone number is copied directly to the hold record, not looked up at notification time |
| # | 16:52:59 | miker_ | so, when you place a hold, it asks you for the number you want to be notified at (which does default to day_phone, but the patron or staff placing the hold can edit it) and then that number, approved by the user, is stored on the hold |
| # | 16:53:04 | jeff | miker_: sure, but when i'm in the opac in one window and editing my patron record in the staff client in another, the opac doesn't notice the phone number if i change it while logged in. |
| # | 16:53:28 | jeff | it updates it on login. |
| # | 16:54:09 | phasefx_ | sounds believable :) |
| # | 16:54:10 | miker_ | right, that's a side-effect of attaching the user object to the session in memcache for performance |
| # | 16:54:14 | jeff | even though the new number is displayed in "my account" contact info, placing a new hold uses the cached value of daytime phone as it was when i lgged into the opac |
| # | 16:54:42 | miker_ | sure |
| # | 16:54:43 | jeff | this isn't a problem, it was just an observation. :) |
| # | 16:54:47 | miker_ | sure |
| # | 16:55:27 | miker_ | I'd hope it would be a pretty rare corner case ;) |
| # | 16:56:00 | miker_ imagines staff editing thousands of phone numbers each day exactly when the patron goes to place a hold... |
| # | 16:56:31 | phasefx_ | berick: I had forgotten (again) to run autogen after my db-update.. don't know if the schema had actually changed or not.. but trying again |
| # | 16:58:36 | berick | phasefx_: oh, are you on your local install? |
| # | 16:58:45 | berick | i just updated the acq server to test |
| # | 16:58:45 | phasefx_ | berick: were you wanting me to try on dev or acq or someplace... yeah |
| # | 16:58:59 | phasefx_ | I'll poke on acq |
| # | 17:01:20 | phasefx_ | {"payload":[],"debug":"osrfMethodException : *** Call to [open-ils.circ.checkout.full] failed for session [1227564032.590641.12275640323439], thread trace [1]:\nException: OpenSRF::EX 2008-11-24T17:00:32 OpenSRF::Application /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0/OpenSRF/Application.pm:202 : No event defined with textcode: \n\n","status":500} |
| # | 17:01:33 | berick | heh |
| # | 17:02:44 | berick | justa sec |
| # | 17:03:16 | phasefx_ | np, thanks |
| # | 17:07:56 | berick | miker_: do the new in-db circ procs still return fail_part info ? |
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| # | 17:08:42 | berick | hrm. i need to tell the event code to allow usage of non-defined events |
| # | 17:13:53 | berick | phasefx_: i'm going to try making the event code less strict, since we are generating event objects from user-created data |
| # | 17:14:00 | berick | anyway, lemme know if things work now |
| # | 17:15:01 | berick | i'm not sure if there's enough data in the acq db to successfully complete a circ with the in-db rules |
| # | 17:15:17 | phasefx_ | {"payload":[],"debug":"osrfMethodException : *** Call to [open-ils.circ.checkout.full] failed for session [1227564900.564970.12275649003471], thread trace [1]:\nException: OpenSRF::EX 2008-11-24T17:15:00 OpenSRF::Application /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0/OpenSRF/Application.pm:202 : Bad event name: \n\n","status":500} |
| # | 17:16:29 | berick | hrm, sql error under all that |
| # | 17:17:55 | berick | think i see the prob |
| # | 17:19:54 | berick | ok, i think i fixed the stored proc. now it's returning no_matchpoint.. |
| # | 17:19:59 | berick | so... |
| # | 17:21:22 | berick | phasefx_: ok, should be working now |
| # | 17:24:24 | phasefx_ | {"payload":[],"debug":"osrfMethodException : *** Call to [open-ils.circ.checkout.full] failed for session [1227565452.059667.12275654523321], thread trace [1]:\nException: OpenSRF::EX 2008-11-24T17:24:12 OpenSRF::Application /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0/OpenSRF/Application.pm:202 : Bad event name: \n\n","status":500} |
| # | 17:25:41 | berick starts breaking things |
| # | 17:25:52 | phasefx_ | :D |
| # | 17:27:19 | berick | arg, the penalties and other non-penalty failures are mingling. gimma a minute |
| # | 17:30:24 | berick | well, several minutes. gotta step away for a few mins |
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| # | 17:42:02 | berick | phasefx_: alright, try again ;) |
| # | 17:42:17 | phasefx_ | aight |
| # | 17:45:02 | phasefx_ | got farther: {"barcode":"ppp3madeup","patron":1,"permit_key":"128e96c456b0f2ab78e0787f4790edcb","dummy_title":"trtrs","dummy_author":"dfsfdsfds","precat":1},0] |
| # | 17:45:06 | phasefx_ | THROWN: |
| # | 17:45:08 | phasefx_ | {"payload":[],"debug":"osrfMethodException : *** Call to [open-ils.circ.checkout.full] failed for session [1227566637.771269.12275666373467], thread trace [1]:\nCan't call method \"duration_rule\" on an undefined value at /openils/lib/perl5/OpenILS/Application/Circ/Circulate.pm line 1345.\n\n","status":500} |
| # | 17:47:43 | berick | hrm |
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| # | 18:01:37 | berick | phasefx_: the stored procs are all different now and the acq db and ML code are out sync. so, i need to do some overhauling before you can effectively test this |
| # | 18:02:25 | phasefx_ | berick: k, np. I'll go back to other things :D thanks man |
| # | 18:02:38 | berick | and i'll go to the kitchen ;) |
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| # | 20:54:31 | dbs | man. the perl on ubuntu ibex is a bit busted |
| # | 20:54:53 | djfiander | "perl", eh. |
| # | 20:59:38 | dbs | yep. |
| # | 21:01:48 | djfiander | librarians should not be allowed to define data format standards without a licensed computer programmer in the room. |
| # | 21:03:15 | dbs | Oh, did the MFHD committee not have a licensed computer programmer? |
| # | 21:03:18 | dbs | and |
| # | 21:03:25 | dbs | Computer programmers have licenses? |
| # | 21:04:06 | djfiander | not based on the decision to store chronology data in the enumeration subfields, if there's no separate enumeration for items |
| # | 21:04:07 | djfiander | and |
| # | 21:04:15 | djfiander | sometimes I think that they should |
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