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| # | 09:51:06 | kgs | denials: you there? |
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| # | 10:13:49 | BenO is following the install guide at http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=server:1.4.0.0:ubuntu804:install - will feed back any hiccups |
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| # | 10:17:16 | kgs | anyone there dokuwiki-savvy? I'm having trouble with pdfs -- e.g. as linked on http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=advocacy:pr |
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| # | 10:32:00 | BenO is getting sleepy watching CPAN fill up my terminal.... |
| # | 10:32:28 | wlayton | kgs: Where is that pdf located? |
| # | 10:32:45 | kgs | wlayton: in the advocacy namespace |
| # | 10:33:25 | kgs | so I'm thinkign it should be advocacy:ein_brochure.pdf |
| # | 10:33:51 | kgs | howsoever... I can't get it to work on my personal dokuwiki, which leans toward some pebkac issue |
| # | 10:36:28 | wlayton | kgs: done |
| # | 10:36:38 | kgs | done what? |
| # | 10:37:09 | wlayton | kgs: I think I got it working - give it a try: http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=advocacy:pr |
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| # | 10:37:39 | kgs | curly brackets... ah |
| # | 10:38:12 | kgs | they even show it in the documentation! |
| # | 10:39:06 | kgs | "You can include external and internal images with curly brackets." ok, sigh. thanks |
| # | 10:39:59 | wlayton | np |
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| # | 12:38:53 | phasefx | hrmm, eg_db_config.pl couldn't guess what version of postgres I have |
| # | 12:41:50 | phasefx | back to build-db.sh I go |
| # | 12:42:27 | miker_ | phasefx: what version do you have? |
| # | 12:42:48 | phasefx | looks like 81.. deprecated for us, eh? |
| # | 12:42:51 | miker_ | wow ... just got a @later from 4 days ago... |
| # | 12:43:20 | miker_ | phasefx: yeah, for trunk |
| # | 12:43:30 | miker_ | much to my chagrin |
| # | 12:43:39 | phasefx | an old vmware image I had retrofited for trunk a while back |
| # | 12:44:00 | miker_ | ahhh |
| # | 12:44:04 | phasefx | well, the opposite of retrofited :) |
| # | 12:44:06 | berick | 8.2 is the only db that works with trunk, correct? |
| # | 12:44:17 | berick | and 1.4, i assume |
| # | 12:44:46 | miker_ | berick: no, 8.1 works ... but only because I have to make it work |
| # | 12:44:53 | miker_ | but it's not "supported" |
| # | 12:45:38 | berick | ahh |
| # | 12:49:26 | phasefx | hrmm, does Debian have an 8.2? |
| # | 12:56:19 | miker_ | phasefx: it does |
| # | 12:56:29 | miker_ | you have to ask for it explicitly ... somehow |
| # | 13:01:49 | phasefx | can't find it. Where the script bombs out is tryinging show sever_version.. database "root" does not exist :) |
| # | 13:03:09 | phasefx hardcodes an 81 in there and sees what happens |
| # | 13:11:47 | dmcmorris_esi | phasefx: PGUSER=postgres blahblah? |
| # | 13:12:42 | phasefx | I didn't try such a thing, no. past it now :) thanks |
| # | 13:13:17 | phasefx | --update-config doesn't change live-db-setup.pl it looks like |
| # | 13:19:43 | miker_ | and that might explain wlayton's problem |
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| # | 13:34:49 | phasefx | wlayton: see above ^^ |
| # | 13:41:53 | wlayton | phasefx: thanks. that's likely part of the problem but I'm still having issues |
| # | 13:43:08 | wlayton | although...live-db-setup.pl is owned by root:root, and has permissions set to 644. Is that okay, or should it be opensrf:opensrf and/or 755? |
| # | 13:45:22 | miker_ | wlayton: should only need to be readable by the user apache is running under |
| # | 13:54:55 | phasefx | yay, I have a working trunk and staff client again |
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| # | 14:32:18 | phasefx | I think my trunk vmware image needs tuning.. either that or it's gone nuts. cpu has been maxed out for a while now (just pulled up 10 items in a bucket) |
| # | 14:32:56 | phasefx | I'm getting such lovely log lines like AppSession not connected, conenecting... |
| # | 14:38:37 | phasefx | mmm.. Out of Memory |
| # | 14:38:46 | phasefx | it killed opensrf-perl.pl |
| # | 14:39:38 | phasefx | this image has 512MB of RAM |
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| # | 19:50:03 | miker_ | http://www.sitepen.com/blog/2008/10/22/new-features-in-dojo-grid-12/ |
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| # | 20:01:16 | jeff | receipt printer hatred. |
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| # | 20:13:04 | miker_ | jeff: just a general statement of your condition? |
| # | 20:13:59 | jeff | yes. :) |
| # | 20:15:26 | jeff | new hardware, old printers, old ils. |
| # | 20:15:51 | jeff | i can do new hardware and new printers, but new ils isn't for a few weeks yet. |
| # | 20:16:09 | jeff | so i'm stuck trying to get new hardware deployed without breaking receipt printing for the old ils. |
| # | 20:16:17 | jeff | this printing is problematic. |
| # | 20:16:35 | miker_ | printing usually is :( |
| # | 20:16:39 | miker_ | dead_trees-- |
| # | 20:20:56 | jeff ponders an e-mail all receipts feature |
| # | 20:23:14 | miker_ | ha |
| # | 20:31:33 | djfiander | make sure to include data in iCal format, so we can automatically add them to our calendar. |
| # | 20:33:10 | djfiander | actually. that's not a bad idea. How about the "items currently checked out" display in my account including hcalendar data for the books due? |
| # | 20:38:31 | phasefx | ooh |
| # | 20:40:30 | phasefx | randomized/disposable RSS feeds for patron-sensitive data. Think your URL is compromised? Generate another one |
| # | 20:43:51 | jeff nods |
| # | 20:44:00 | jeff | add your due items to your google calendar. |
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| # | 21:00:58 | djfiander | one more thing about "what are we trying to do with marc holdings": import/export module vs checkin/prediction. |
| # | 21:01:41 | jeff | 44.5 MB print driver download for a receipt printer. |
| # | 21:01:44 | dbs | display current holdings was mentioned I assume |
| # | 21:01:46 | jeff | Seriously, Epson. |
| # | 21:02:09 | djfiander | dbs: that was the first thing I've said here. |
| # | 21:02:15 | djfiander | rest was the email. |
| # | 21:02:17 | miker_ | djfiander: isn't it import->prediction->checkin/claim(maybe)->export? |
| # | 21:03:06 | djfiander | miker_: but do we need to store & operate on marc format, or just do in/out on it and use a different internal DB table format? |
| # | 21:03:55 | djfiander | import for migration, export for consortium sharing stuff (or oclc or whatever) |
| # | 21:03:55 | dbs | djfiander: sorry, just joined |
| # | 21:04:19 | djfiander | but checkin/claim can be done some other way, potentially. |
| # | 21:04:25 | miker_ | djfiander: after import, we use the internal stuff .. but when new issues are checked in then the mfhd should be updated, no? |
| # | 21:04:29 | miker_ | for display |
| # | 21:04:46 | miker_ | most likely not stored /in/ the MARC until export |
| # | 21:05:14 | djfiander | public displays would be generated from the internal stuff. |
| # | 21:05:40 | djfiander | This is probably a big part of why ILS's don't include MFHD displays in the opac "marc display" |
| # | 21:06:26 | miker_ | we want to calculate the caption (is that right?) at checkin, so that we don't have to recalculate it at each display |
| # | 21:06:30 | djfiander | the truly amusing (amazing) part about MFHD support in other ILS vendors systems |
| # | 21:06:37 | djfiander | http://www.loc.gov/acq/conser/patthold-vendorsurvey.html |
| # | 21:06:37 | dbs | miker_: that was the idea, yeah |
| # | 21:06:42 | miker_ | well... calculate it when the internal data is updated |
| # | 21:06:56 | miker_ | which is normally by checkin or weeding |
| # | 21:07:02 | miker_ | or inventory |
| # | 21:07:15 | djfiander | Q7 reports that people cant actually using MFHD to exchange data with like ILSs, let along different systems |
| # | 21:07:59 | djfiander | miker_: yes, the holdings display string should be updated at checkin |
| # | 21:14:00 | jeff | okay. two usb receipt printers working with old ils. |
| # | 21:17:35 | dbs | suckiest internet connection EVER |
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| # | 21:44:04 | dbs posts hopefully correct-ish description of how display for bib records happens |
| # | 21:44:22 | dbs | 'cause I like to pretend I know what I'm doing |
| # | 22:09:09 | miker_ | dbs++ # that's right on |
| # | 22:09:36 | djfiander | ew |
| # | 22:09:50 | dbs | miker_: one step towards more dev docs and more devs |
| # | 22:10:06 | dbs | -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =- |
| # | 22:10:11 | djfiander | v.1-3(1958-1960), v.5-7(1962-1965),;,v.13-14(1971-1972) |
| # | 22:10:27 | djfiander | that is the 'human readable' example holding statement from the marc docs |
| # | 22:10:40 | djfiander | we don't own v.4 |
| # | 22:10:49 | djfiander | notice the ',;,' in the middle. |
| # | 22:11:28 | djfiander | that means that part of the v.8-12 gap is missing because we don't own it and part is missing because it was never published. |
| # | 22:11:31 | djfiander | clear? |
| # | 22:11:41 | miker_ | gah! |
| # | 22:11:44 | phasefx | no |
| # | 22:11:46 | miker_ | I was wondering about that |
| # | 22:12:27 | dbs | clear as MARC |
| # | 22:13:06 | djfiander | "The reporting organization lacks v.4, 8, and 11-12." The second and third fields refect both a nongap (v.9-10 [ie, unpublished]) and a gap break (v.11-12) [ie, missing] |
| # | 22:14:14 | djfiander | this stuff needs to be complicated, because it has to describe reality. |
| # | 22:14:17 | djfiander | which sux. |
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April 10-13