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| # | 08:54:22 | NilesIngalls | anyone in here working on the Indiana Migrations at the moment? |
| # | 08:55:08 | miker_ | NilesIngalls: copies are committing now, sir |
| # | 08:56:11 | NilesIngalls | Moorsville) opens in 5 minutes. should they continue in standalone? |
| # | 08:56:18 | miker_ | yes |
| # | 08:57:03 | NilesIngalls | they have been running in standalone since Thursday, and I was told that they accedintally processed transactions on the 10th? What issues will arise from this? |
| # | 08:58:50 | miker_ | I don't have an answer for that right now. |
| # | 09:01:28 | asmodai waves at miker_ |
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| # | 09:01:50 | asmodai | miker_: Sup matey? |
| # | 09:02:06 | miker_ | apparently ... the sun :) |
| # | 09:02:13 | asmodai | wow, here too! |
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| # | 10:35:41 | rsinger | miker_: you there? |
| # | 10:35:49 | miker_ | rsinger: 'sup |
| # | 10:36:01 | rsinger | miker_: i'm trying to remember something about unapi |
| # | 10:36:15 | rsinger | miker_: and the spec isn't exactly helping |
| # | 10:36:29 | miker_ | you need more than one page? |
| # | 10:36:37 | rsinger | obviously! |
| # | 10:36:40 | rsinger | http://unapi.info/specs/ |
| # | 10:36:45 | rsinger | so when you pass no arguments |
| # | 10:36:53 | rsinger | and it returns the metadata formats available |
| # | 10:36:56 | rsinger | ... |
| # | 10:37:03 | miker_ | right |
| # | 10:37:15 | rsinger | the spec reads:"Provide a list of object formats which should be supported for all objects available through the unAPI service." |
| # | 10:37:23 | rsinger | so |
| # | 10:37:52 | rsinger | does that mean that if the format appears, all identifiers must be able to respond with that? |
| # | 10:37:57 | miker_ | I implemented that as as UNION ALL |
| # | 10:38:02 | miker_ | no |
| # | 10:38:03 | rsinger | ok |
| # | 10:38:07 | rsinger | so like oai-pmh |
| # | 10:38:29 | rsinger | these are all the metadataFormats that i have, although they do not apply to everything in my repo |
| # | 10:38:31 | djfiander | heh |
| # | 10:38:35 | miker_ | right |
| # | 10:38:47 | rsinger | ok, that's what i thought |
| # | 10:38:49 | miker_ | pass an identifier with no format, get the formats for that object |
| # | 10:38:55 | rsinger | right |
| # | 10:39:01 | rsinger | i just wanted to confirm |
| # | 10:39:08 | rsinger | and i can't find the archived discussion |
| # | 10:39:12 | djfiander | I read that as the intersection: "formats supported for all objects" sounds like the things in the list are good for any object. |
| # | 10:39:19 | rsinger writing a unapi jangle adapter |
| # | 10:39:30 | rsinger | djfiander: that's how i *read* it, too |
| # | 10:39:39 | rsinger | djfiander: but it's not how i remember it |
| # | 10:39:53 | rsinger | but, of course, it's been over two years (!) |
| # | 10:40:04 | djfiander | now SHOULD BE means that it's not mandatory, but close to it. |
| # | 10:40:50 | djfiander | and this is why the IETF holds interop bake-offs. |
| # | 10:40:52 | rsinger | djfiander: there's an assumption of homogeneity in the resources it's exposing if the list is an intersection |
| # | 10:41:00 | rsinger | which, you know, is fine |
| # | 10:41:11 | rsinger | but more limiting |
| # | 10:41:29 | djfiander | yup |
| # | 10:41:49 | rsinger | i can't find dchud to confirm |
| # | 10:42:29 | djfiander | he is the J.D. Salinger of code4lib |
| # | 10:42:40 | rsinger | indeed :) |
| # | 10:42:59 | miker_ | serial killers carry copies of his blog posts around? |
| # | 10:44:54 | djfiander | not just serial killers: all conspiracy theorists. |
| # | 10:45:14 | miker_ | ahh... that explains the stack of 'em on my desk |
| # | 10:45:56 | djfiander | that was my favourite part of Conspiracy Theory: the gov't tapped into bookstore POS to monitor Salinger purchases. |
| # | 10:48:29 | rsinger | i thought he never left his compound? |
| # | 10:49:58 | djfiander | rsinger: sorry: the gov't tracked brainwashed operatives by watching for people to by copies of Catcher in the Rye, since the only time normal people buy it is in early september. |
| # | 10:50:17 | rsinger | oh, gotcha :) |
| # | 10:50:33 | rsinger | this is a movie, right? |
| # | 10:50:38 | djfiander | apparently I need more coffee. |
| # | 10:51:18 | djfiander | yeah, it was a documentary staring Mel Gibson: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118883/ |
| # | 10:51:25 | rsinger | "these new fangled talkies I'll never get the hang of" |
| # | 10:52:33 | jeff | ahh... back on a friendly network. |
| # | 10:54:19 | jeff | school district web proxies: nofun |
| # | 10:54:57 | jeff | but the good news is: thanks to xulrunner, the evergreen staff client works great going through a Microsoft ISA proxy using integrated NTLM authentication |
| # | 10:55:46 | miker_ | jeff: wow ... you'll need to share that one with the rest of the class! |
| # | 10:56:37 | phasefx | jeff: I'll get your patch in before the week is out, too |
| # | 10:56:37 | jeff | unfortunately, while xulrunner and firefox both work fine (once configured to use the proper proxy host/port), putty and openvpn don't work. :) |
| # | 10:56:45 | jeff | phasefx: awesome! thanks! |
| # | 10:56:57 | phasefx | have to do things so we can cut 1.4 |
| # | 10:57:04 | jeff nods |
| # | 10:57:23 | jeff | i have no problem making local mods to make that work on my end. your wiki page on building the installer was most helpful. |
| # | 10:58:04 | phasefx | coolness |
| # | 10:58:05 | jeff | i also had success pre-populating the ws_info file and proxy config in the installer source files, so all i had to do was install and log in once. |
| # | 10:58:14 | jeff | (all workstations just using the same workstation name, for training) |
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| # | 16:51:14 | agJohn | berick: You know that EV server you helped me with config settings on for ejabber sessions and so on--the grossly underpowered one--can I ask you some questions about it? |
| # | 16:56:39 | berick | agJohn: what's up? |
| # | 16:57:18 | agJohn | Wondering if you think it's just plain to old/slow or if more RAM might make a difference to the performance (its only got 2 GB of RAM). |
| # | 16:57:34 | agJohn | That is ... too old/slow ... |
| # | 16:57:38 | berick | agJohn: it's running everything but the db? |
| # | 16:58:10 | agJohn | Right. |
| # | 16:58:34 | berick | agJohn: honestly, i would just watch 'top' while people poked at it |
| # | 16:58:43 | berick | see if it's using all the ram |
| # | 16:58:51 | agJohn | OK. Good deal. Thanks! |
| # | 17:10:40 | agJohn | berick: Is there any configuration required w/ memcached for it to take advantage of available RAM or to not exceed it? |
| # | 17:12:29 | berick | agJohn: see /etc/memcached.conf |
| # | 17:12:46 | berick | there's a max-memory setting |
| # | 17:13:18 | agJohn | OK. It does not appear to be using all the RAM and at the moment it looks like Apache is pegging one or the other of the CPUs from time to time. |
| # | 17:14:37 | dbs | agJohn: btw, thanks for the testing info you sent; looks like an interesting direction |
| # | 17:15:13 | agJohn | Hope it helps. I'm feeling a lot more calm about the big demo on Thursday, now! |
| # | 17:17:39 | dbs has started building a little EG bibliography at http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=advocacy:reviews_bibliography |
| # | 18:05:29 | dbs | berick: oh good god, how did I not catch that crapola commit? |
| # | 18:07:26 | berick | dbs: the i18n stufff? you probably weren't editing the ACQ branch ;) |
| # | 18:07:41 | dbs | oh.. phew |
| # | 18:07:48 | dbs | panicked :) |
| # | 18:11:30 | berick | acq db has be re-imaged. loading bib data from the old db into the new db.. |
| # | 18:13:43 | agJohn | Does one have to run autogen.sh to adjust which statuses show up in the bib display under the holdings info? The config.copy_status.holdable setting determines if copies w/ that status are shown, right? Would it be useful if that were a separate setting from "holdable"? |
| # | 18:14:21 | agJohn | At any rate, if I change the holdable setting on a status, do I need to rerun autogen.sh for EV to pick up on the change? |
| # | 18:15:02 | berick | agJohn: as of 1.4, there is a new asset.copy_location.opac_visible flag |
| # | 18:15:08 | berick | agJohn: and you don't need to re-run autogen |
| # | 18:15:17 | agJohn | Cool; and thanks! |
| # | 18:16:29 | berick | agJohn: hm, it occurs to me, though, that the statuses may be cached in the Perl code. if the opac does not respond, you may need to restart perl services |
| # | 18:17:28 | agJohn | Assumed an EV restart of some kind would be required.... Thnx. |
| # | 18:17:37 | dbs | berick: what do you think about renaming the autotools autogen.sh to bootstrap.sh to disambiguate it from /openils/bin/autogen.sh ? |
| # | 18:19:00 | dbs | I suppose only devs would have to worry about it, as it won't be part of builds |
| # | 18:21:04 | berick | yeah, i would be all for it, except that i assume the autotools autogen.sh is usually called just that. changing it might make confusion elsewhere |
| # | 18:21:45 | dbs | actually, it was historically called bootstrap.sh, so there's a good percentage of projects that still use that older name |
| # | 18:22:03 | berick | ahh |
| # | 18:22:28 | berick | ironically, that name also sound similar to other opensrf bits ;) |
| # | 18:22:40 | berick | but, would be less confusing overall |
| # | 18:23:03 | berick | i can't say i have a strong opinion either way |
| # | 18:23:11 | dbs | yeah, i recognized the opensrf similarities, but now that bootstrap.conf is gone.. |
| # | 18:23:16 | dbs | yeah, low-priority |
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| # | 22:25:42 | dbs | miker_: where would you like to see Conify dojo resource bundles? |
| # | 22:26:31 | dbs | dojo/conify/<file>.js ? dojo/openils/conify/<file>.js? |
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| # | 22:27:07 | dbs | 'cause I've got it together |
| # | 22:27:37 | berick | dbs: is that where the translations live? |
| # | 22:27:53 | dbs | berick: yeah |
| # | 22:28:05 | dbs | has to be relative to the dojo directory |
| # | 22:28:47 | dbs | (and it will actually end up being foo/bar/nls/<lang>/<region>/<file>.js) |
| # | 22:29:06 | berick | dojo/openils/conify/blah/ makes sense to me, since conify is openils |
| # | 22:29:41 | dbs | fair enough, I'll start down that path and we can always modify if need be |
| # | 22:30:23 | berick | dbs: was it pretty straight forward to get it all setup? |
| # | 22:30:41 | berick | i'm pretty curious about how it all fits together |
| # | 22:30:47 | berick | dbs++ btw |
| # | 22:31:45 | dbs | berick: the documentation sucks, but it's actually very straightforward |
| # | 22:33:08 | berick | bah, figures |
| # | 22:35:12 | dbs | well, straightforward for plain old javascript string formatting anyway |
| # | 22:37:24 | berick | so, i \i loaded an sql file with just some bib records (from the old acq db). is there an easy way to tell the DB to "go forth and make your indexes, etc". IOW, an ingest-all spell |
| # | 22:37:52 | berick realizes how silly that probably sounds, but doesn't know a better way to ask the question |
| # | 22:39:53 | dbs | berick: oh - so the indexes weren't already part of the schema? |
| # | 22:41:00 | berick | dbs: i pg_dump -t biblio.record_entry from the old db, then loaded the resulting sql file into the new db, cuz all i really want to keep is the bib data. but just loading that data, doesn't create all of the metabib data. |
| # | 22:41:12 | berick | i need to run open-ils.ingest.full.biblio.record on every record |
| # | 22:41:19 | berick | but was hoping there was a more direct path |
| # | 22:41:39 | dbs grinds his brain into a different realm for a second |
| # | 22:41:47 | berick | dbs: no! don't |
| # | 22:41:58 | berick | this is secondary |
| # | 22:42:06 | berick | i can script if if i need to |
| # | 22:42:15 | dbs | oh, duh... yeah - I've never tried that |
| # | 22:47:13 | berick | har, cuz it takes a while ;) |
| # | 22:47:27 | berick | .9 secs per record |
| # | 22:48:08 | dbs | yeah, that's basically populating mfr (shredding the marcxml) as well as m*fe (via mods transform) for each record eh? |
| # | 22:48:38 | berick | that's my understanding |
| # | 22:49:16 | berick | hrm, except it's not |
| # | 22:49:31 | berick | cuz my script is dumb |
| # | 22:50:06 | berick | heh, it's a little faster when you actually pass the record id |
| # | 22:50:17 | berick | and 99% more functional! |
| # | 22:50:25 | dbs | haha |
| # | 22:51:11 | dbs | so you can see the miniscule changes required to make dojo i18n resource bundles work - painless, really |
| # | 22:51:51 | dbs | as for roundtripping the resource bundles -> POT -> resource bundles... eh, that'll be another story |
| # | 22:53:27 | berick | yeah, that doesn't look too bad |
| # | 22:54:40 | dbs | should be able to unleash Slazer on that once I get his system working |
| # | 23:00:48 | berick | arg, slamming ingest seems to leave many cstores in the lurch |
| # | 23:08:19 | berick | ah, that helps |
| # | 23:19:06 | dbs | heh |
April 10-13