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| # | 01:43:35 | bhupendrasingh | help for evergreen on adnroid |
| # | 01:44:44 | bhupendrasingh | guys i want to implement an android app for evergreen |
| # | 01:48:18 | bhupendrasingh | ? |
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| # | 03:05:21 | bhupendrasingh | hi |
| # | 03:05:53 | bhupendrasingh | help with evergreen on android |
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| # | 07:41:26 | eeevil | grabbing 0699 |
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| # | 08:33:08 | tsbere | early morning merging |
| # | 08:38:53 | Dyrcona | same here, but I have to go back through my lists and figure out what I'm merging, since my list got messed up on Friday. |
| # | 08:39:26 | Dyrcona | or, rather look through my emails. |
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| # | 09:43:26 | dbwells | senator: (or anyone else) I have rebased, tested, and signed-off on https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/949466 Let me know if you had any questions with my last few commits from Friday. |
| # | 09:43:26 | pinesol_green | Launchpad bug 949466 in Evergreen "TPAC: Improvement to serials display (under the "issues held" label)" (affected: 3, heat: 16) [High,In progress] |
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| # | 09:44:16 | csharp | ~gsoc |
| # | 09:44:16 | pinesol_green | gsoc is Looking for information on Google Summer of Code and Evergreen? 2012 Project page: http://goo.gl/5tCHe Evergreen ideas page: http://goo.gl/kOZJd GSoC Student Guide: http://goo.gl/vlCtG |
| # | 09:45:04 | csharp | ~no gsoc is Looking for information on Google Summer of Code and Evergreen? 2012 Project page: http://goo.gl/5tCHe Evergreen ideas page: http://goo.gl/kOZJd GSoC Student Guide: http://goo.gl/vlCtG |
| # | 09:45:04 | pinesol_green | I'll remember that csharp |
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| # | 09:46:49 | tsbere both wants to have enough rights on the bot to do that and doesn't want any special rights on the bot at the same time <_< |
| # | 09:46:58 | bhupendrasingh | help on for evergreen on android |
| # | 09:47:04 | bhupendrasingh | i am looking to work on that |
| # | 09:47:12 | bhupendrasingh | can anyone guide |
| # | 09:47:19 | bhupendrasingh | ?\ |
| # | 09:47:39 | csharp | tsbere: I think bshum can set you up with at least rights to add/alter factoids without adding to much to your to-do list ;-) |
| # | 09:49:07 | tsbere | csharp: I would not be surprised if I could, via roundabout ways, give myself rights on the bot. Still not sure I *want* them :P |
| # | 09:49:18 | csharp | tsbere: understood ;-) |
| # | 09:50:48 | bshum | tsbere: Well you have editor powers now |
| # | 09:54:43 | tsbere puts out a call for last-minutish merges before he starts looking at building out the beta |
| # | 09:55:11 | tsbere | Barring people telling me to hold on I plan on starting sometime in the next hour or so |
| # | 09:55:33 | tsbere wouldn't object to someone looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/971502 before he reaches that point, because missing icons doesn't look good |
| # | 09:55:33 | pinesol_green | Launchpad bug 971502 in Evergreen "Many Toolbar Buttons have no icons" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [High,New] |
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| # | 09:56:13 | Dyrcona | I'm tempted to say just commit everything and we'll fix the problems before beta2 or final release. |
| # | 09:59:18 | kmlussier | I had been hoping to see https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/954310 in beta, but my testing didn't go well Friday. :( |
| # | 09:59:18 | pinesol_green | Launchpad bug 954310 in Evergreen "Org unit selective hiding and sorting in tpac library selector" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] |
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| # | 10:07:36 | faweideniu | :-D |
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| # | 10:07:55 | faweideniu | hello |
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| # | 10:09:38 | eeevil | dbwells++ |
| # | 10:12:10 | Dyrcona | kmlussier: I'm loading the rebased/updated branch for that bug. |
| # | 10:12:26 | eeevil | grabbing 0700 |
| # | 10:13:37 | kmlussier | Dyrcona: Which? The selective ou hiding? |
| # | 10:13:50 | Dyrcona | kmlussier: yes. |
| # | 10:14:00 | Dyrcona | lp954310 |
| # | 10:14:50 | kmlussier | Dyrcona: Thanks! But I think it might not have been playing nicely with the new xul branch. I could be wrong, but the interface was acting a little wonky. |
| # | 10:16:38 | Dyrcona | Well, you can give it another try, now. |
| # | 10:16:48 | kmlussier | Dyrcona: will do! |
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| # | 10:28:15 | phasefx | how I can find out what stored procedures might still being using plperl? I could have some custom ones lingering around. psql:0696.no_plperl.sql:26: ERROR: cannot drop language plperl because other objects depend on it |
| # | 10:29:33 | tsbere | phasefx: It didn't provide you with a list? |
| # | 10:29:48 | tsbere | phasefx: Either that, or tell it to drop with a cascade. <_< |
| # | 10:30:04 | phasefx | gosh, it sure did.. I'm just trained to ignore anything after the first error :) |
| # | 10:30:08 | phasefx | tsbere++ |
| # | 10:31:08 | phasefx | and select pronamespace, proname, prolang from pg_proc where proowner <> 1; comes close to what I was looking for |
| # | 10:31:37 | gmcharlt | phasefx: you can join pg_language to that on pg_proc.prolang = pg_language.oid |
| # | 10:31:56 | gmcharlt | to get you exactly what you asked for |
| # | 10:32:09 | phasefx | gmcharlt++ |
| # | 10:33:53 | phasefx | so for the logs: select pronamespace, proname, lanname from pg_proc, pg_language l where proowner <> 1 and prolang = l.oid and lanname = 'plperl'; |
| # | 10:37:35 | tsbere pokes phasefx about https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/971502 ;) |
| # | 10:37:35 | pinesol_green | Launchpad bug 971502 in Evergreen "Many Toolbar Buttons have no icons" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [High,New] |
| # | 10:38:00 | phasefx | tsbere: yeah, I have the tab open, but other things keep moving in front ;) |
| # | 10:38:29 | phasefx | like 0696 not working for me |
| # | 10:38:44 | phasefx | (though it should now) |
| # | 10:44:59 | eeevil | tsbere/phasefx: if that's a "just works" branch tested by kmlussier, I'll merge it |
| # | 10:45:39 | tsbere | eeevil: That is a 100% staff client local branch with no code changes. Images and CSS. kmlussier has not tested it, to my knowledge. |
| # | 10:46:20 | tsbere | Well, ok, I included a script I used to build the PNG images from the SVG sources, but that isn't going to break anything ;) |
| # | 10:46:49 | Dyrcona | I should have included that in my branches to merge this morning.... |
| # | 10:47:15 | eeevil | tsbere: I'll clarify ... shall I just merge it? ;) |
| # | 10:47:38 | eeevil | fwiw, I consider that a bug fix in any case, so there's no rush before beta IMO |
| # | 10:47:42 | tsbere | eeevil: I would appreciate someone other than myself confirming that the buttons do, indeed, all have icons afterwards ;) |
| # | 10:47:43 | phasefx is testing it now, fwiw |
| # | 10:47:50 | eeevil | k |
| # | 10:50:07 | tsbere decides to test some stat cat changes for possible last-minute merging |
| # | 10:50:21 | phasefx still sees some syntax errors in 950 seed data |
| # | 10:50:24 | Dyrcona plays mp3 of fwiw. ;) |
| # | 10:50:47 | denials | to help avoid the problem we've seen a few times now of not having the right minimum version of OpenSRF, I'm looking into http://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf-archive/ax_prog_perl_modules.html |
| # | 10:51:03 | tsbere | phasefx: Hmmm, that is probably a good point. I don't recall any GSoC people rushing to jump on that one. Should one of us just fix it? |
| # | 10:51:33 | denials | I'd say no |
| # | 10:51:58 | denials | unless there is a new syntax error |
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| # | 10:52:51 | phasefx tries to find the old one to compare |
| # | 10:53:00 | tsbere | denials: So you think we should ship a beta that doesn't load all....looks like default OU settings AND stuff for A/T events? |
| # | 10:55:16 | phasefx doesn't see a bitesize bug for that |
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| # | 10:56:45 | denials | tsbere: default OU settings? Sounds like a new syntax error |
| # | 10:57:20 | tsbere wasn't loading a clean master checkout, that may be related to the branch he is testing |
| # | 10:57:22 | eeevil | denials: ax_prog_perl_modules sounds fun! long line, though ... ;) |
| # | 10:57:34 | denials | bug 957453 |
| # | 10:57:34 | pinesol_green | Launchpad bug 957453 in Evergreen "Mix of explicit event definition IDs and CURRVAL results in unhappiness" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/957453 |
| # | 10:57:59 | denials | phasefx: advanced search on "tag = bitesize" gave me that |
| # | 10:58:40 | phasefx | denials: oh I see it now, was mentally looking for something like "syntax error" |
| # | 10:59:00 | phasefx | or 950 |
| # | 10:59:19 | phasefx | not the same error |
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| # | 11:00:44 | tsbere | denials: Looks like a brand new one |
| # | 11:01:01 | tsbere | Stupid missing commas |
| # | 11:01:03 | tsbere | <_< |
| # | 11:04:04 | phasefx | sad thing is, I can't find it :D |
| # | 11:05:09 | tsbere | phasefx: The missing comma? I found it. |
| # | 11:05:45 | tsbere | Was just running a DB reload to be positive that was all that was missing |
| # | 11:06:03 | phasefx | show me how to parse the line numbers from the error message.. psql:950.data.seed-values.sql:4682, the 4682 is the tail end of the huge insert, and LINE 1963: oils_i18n_gettext(, for 1963 is that many lines down relative to the start of the insert? |
| # | 11:06:12 | tsbere | phasefx: ,( 'serial.default_display_grouping', 'serial' |
| # | 11:06:17 | tsbere | There needs to be a comma after that point |
| # | 11:06:39 | tsbere | The error usually indicated the *last* line of the statement that bailed, where the ; is |
| # | 11:06:51 | tsbere | You have to backtrack into the statement to find the actual error on a multi-line |
| # | 11:07:11 | phasefx is still sad, scrutinized the last commit to the file and still missed it |
| # | 11:08:29 | tsbere used ":<linenum>" followed by "?oils_i18n_gettext" in vim to find likely points. |
| # | 11:08:41 | tsbere | My line numbers don't line up with master right now <_< |
| # | 11:09:05 | tsbere | phasefx: If you want to push that fix, go for it, I am not in a clean master checkout ;) |
| # | 11:09:16 | phasefx | sure |
| # | 11:20:32 | phasefx | kmlussier: the icon artist, you think she would want to rework the existing icons to match her new ones? |
| # | 11:20:58 | kmlussier | phasefx: tsbere asked me the same question. I'll ask. |
| # | 11:22:28 | phasefx | we could start offering icon sets at that point, for folks who like one over another, even if incomplete |
| # | 11:27:21 | tsbere | phasefx: If you didn't notice, I have plans for icon sets. I started taking them into account in that commit, even ;) |
| # | 11:27:42 | phasefx | I did notice toolbar_blue |
| # | 11:28:12 | phasefx | tsbere++ |
| # | 11:28:14 | tsbere | phasefx: If you have inkscape installed you could try running the script to see all the pretty colors ;) |
| # | 11:30:45 | phasefx | gosh, I think I'm never going to use git merge again. How do I make git log show the work behind the merge? |
| # | 11:32:26 | tsbere | phasefx: ? |
| # | 11:32:47 | tsbere | Are you using left or right only type options on git log? |
| # | 11:33:11 | phasefx | in master, if I do git log, I see my merge commit for the toolbar icon branch, but not your individual commits |
| # | 11:33:31 | phasefx | just vanilla git log at this point |
| # | 11:34:04 | phasefx is also used to doing git log -p, which shows nothing for the merge commit |
| # | 11:34:13 | phasefx | git log -m -p works |
| # | 11:34:16 | tsbere | phasefx: Oh, it ended up down around the schema.org support? |
| # | 11:34:16 | phasefx | for the diff |
| # | 11:34:33 | phasefx | tsbere: you lost me |
| # | 11:34:48 | tsbere | phasefx: do "git whatchanged" instead of "git log" then search for toolbar_blue |
| # | 11:34:54 | phasefx | gracias |
| # | 11:35:23 | tsbere | On a different note, grabbing 0701 |
| # | 11:36:56 | phasefx | kmlussier: IMO, the replacement icons don't have to mimic the existing ones (for example, multiple arrows pointing in for check-in), if the artist has better ideas |
| # | 11:37:28 | phasefx | I just think a full cohesive set would be great |
| # | 11:37:41 | tsbere | phasefx: Note that we got a nice svg file for the icon backgrounds in that commit ;) |
| # | 11:37:51 | tsbere | So if someone else wants to jump in they can |
| # | 11:38:23 | phasefx 's artistic abilities go about as far as ASCII character 1 |
| # | 11:38:45 | tsbere | phasefx: In that you can do "0" and "1"? :P |
| # | 11:39:07 | phasefx | in that I can do simple happy faces :) |
| # | 11:40:57 | kmlussier | phasefx: ok, I'll let her know. tsbere also pointed out to me that some functions share the same icon, so it would be nice to have some distinct ones. |
| # | 11:41:28 | phasefx | kmlussier++ |
| # | 11:41:29 | tsbere can be blamed for the "same icon" bit, as he just grabbed a generic icon when adding a few buttons previously |
| # | 11:42:51 | tsbere puts out a "last call for merging before beta" as he dives into an update of the 2.1-2.2 upgrade script |
| # | 11:46:46 | eeevil | oh, there's plenty I would like to see go in :) |
| # | 11:48:19 | tsbere | eeevil: Anything you are going to fight with right now? :P |
| # | 11:50:55 | eeevil | tsbere: looking ... I'm going to push ones that are signed off and have no db changes, then circle back around |
| # | 11:53:30 | tsbere | eeevil: If you have DB changes don't bother touching the version upgrade script, then. I have a "include all the missing chunks" commit in progress. |
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| # | 11:54:30 | eeevil | k |
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| # | 11:58:42 | eeevil | tsbere: I know there was a great deal of back and forth on https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/969398 ... are you happy with this multisorting now? |
| # | 11:58:42 | pinesol_green | Launchpad bug 969398 in Evergreen "multi-column sorting in xul lists" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] |
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| # | 11:59:12 | eeevil | Dyrcona: am I waiting on a signoff branch on https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/944158 ? |
| # | 11:59:12 | pinesol_green | Launchpad bug 944158 in Evergreen "Acq: clone selection list (picklist) behaviour" (affected: 2, heat: 10) [Undecided,New] |
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| # | 11:59:33 | tsbere | eeevil: That would be more of a kmlussier question than a me question, I think. |
| # | 11:59:52 | eeevil | tsbere: fair enough |
| # | 11:59:52 | Dyrcona | eeevil: James never signed the original branch. I was going to sign off when I noticed. |
| # | 12:00:13 | eeevil | kmlussier: I put it to you, then! are you happy with https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/969398 at this point? |
| # | 12:00:13 | pinesol_green | Launchpad bug 969398 in Evergreen "multi-column sorting in xul lists" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] |
| # | 12:00:16 | kmlussier | eeevil: I ran out of time to look at it, but can look at it now. |
| # | 12:00:34 | kmlussier | That is, if Dyrcona loaded it on his server this morning. |
| # | 12:00:51 | Dyrcona | missed that one. give me a minute. |
| # | 12:01:09 | eeevil | kmlussier / Dyrcona: also curious about the disposition of https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/954310 now, in your eyes |
| # | 12:01:09 | pinesol_green | Launchpad bug 954310 in Evergreen "Org unit selective hiding and sorting in tpac library selector" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] |
| # | 12:01:32 | kmlussier | eeevil: The opac visibility piece works perfectly. |
| # | 12:02:01 | kmlussier | I had trouble with the sorting and didn't know if it was conflicting with other dev branches. |
| # | 12:02:32 | eeevil | Dyrcona: well, if it's just his signoff we're waiting for, since it's been tested, the I'll push it |
| # | 12:02:41 | kmlussier | eeevil: If it's something that can pushed and improved after beta, I'll have several other servers where I can keep testing it. |
| # | 12:03:09 | eeevil | kmlussier: I'll merge if there are not conflicts with current master |
| # | 12:03:46 | tsbere actually *removed* a block from the version-upgrade script |
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| # | 12:03:54 | tsbere | Said chunk was backported to 2.1 <_< |
| # | 12:04:11 | eeevil | tsbere: a released 2.1.x? |
| # | 12:04:35 | eeevil | tsbere: because, if not, we still need it in there (perhaps conditionally) |
| # | 12:04:48 | tsbere | eeevil: No, but I tested against a clean load of rel_2_1 and the script fell over dead when it hit there. |
| # | 12:05:33 | eeevil | tsbere: right, but that's got more than anyone running a release of 2.1 has |
| # | 12:06:12 | eeevil | tsbere: you see where I'm coming from, right? we can't not include something that hasn't been in a release as of the time of the version upgrade script's release |
| # | 12:06:15 | tsbere | eeevil: How about I tack it onto the end of the script. Second transaction, it can fail without killing the rest? |
| # | 12:06:29 | eeevil | now, if we cut 2.1.2 before 2.2.0, then we can drop it |
| # | 12:06:37 | eeevil | tsbere: sure, perfect |
| # | 12:07:10 | tsbere | eeevil: tis the issn normalizer changes there, so I don't think it depends on any of the rest anyway |
| # | 12:07:16 | Dyrcona | kmlussier: I've applied the xul sort branch. You won't need a new client but restarting your client might be in order. |
| # | 12:07:42 | kmlussier | Dyrcona: k |
| # | 12:07:52 | Dyrcona | eeevil: Want to push a signoff on James's branch? |
| # | 12:07:59 | Dyrcona | want me to |
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| # | 12:09:20 | tsbere throws warning into the mix: DO $$BEGIN RAISE WARNING 'We are about to apply a patch that may not be needed. Don''t panic if it fails.'; END;$$; |
| # | 12:09:53 | eeevil | tsbere: heads up ... 0702 |
| # | 12:12:09 | tsbere | eeevil: Any objections to a "s/:eg_version/'2.2'" on the version upgrade script? |
| # | 12:12:27 | eeevil | Dyrcona: I'll sign-off and merge now |
| # | 12:12:39 | Dyrcona | eeevil: Roger |
| # | 12:12:41 | tsbere | well, objections other than "I need the trailing / to make that replace work" |
| # | 12:12:51 | eeevil | tsbere: meh ... \set eg_version '2.2' at the top |
| # | 12:12:59 | tsbere | heh |
| # | 12:13:13 | eeevil | or document the use of -p |
| # | 12:13:53 | tsbere | eeevil: -p? Do you mean -v? |
| # | 12:14:49 | eeevil | tsbere: probably |
| # | 12:15:16 | eeevil | was about to say "or is it -v" ... but realized I don't care enough and that you'd know what I meant |
| # | 12:15:58 | eeevil | anyway, I'd love to see xul multisort get into 2.2, since autogrid has it now ... |
| # | 12:16:09 | eeevil | that's the only one I'm lobbying for atm |
| # | 12:18:36 | kmlussier | Dyrcona / eeevil: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/969398 looks good. phasefx++ |
| # | 12:18:36 | pinesol_green | Launchpad bug 969398 in Evergreen "multi-column sorting in xul lists" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] |
| # | 12:20:14 | Dyrcona | eeevil: working/collab/dyrcona/xul_subsorts |
| # | 12:21:18 | Dyrcona | @love scripted sign off |
| # | 12:21:18 | pinesol_green | Dyrcona: The operation succeeded. Dyrcona loves scripted sign off. |
| # | 12:24:21 | phasefx | eeevil: I'm going to push an extra commit to xul_subsorts, to remove some cruft |
| # | 12:25:16 | phasefx | eeevil: done |
| # | 12:25:30 | tsbere suspects Dyrcona needs to re-run his scripted sign off |
| # | 12:25:40 | Dyrcona | so I noticed. |
| # | 12:25:40 | tsbere also suspects he should order lunch at this point |
| # | 12:26:09 | denials hopes we don't try to push too much in at the deadline, for obvious instability reasons |
| # | 12:26:44 | bshum | denials: I'll let you know when we run with it later this week :) |
| # | 12:26:59 | phasefx | hey, that's why we have the whole alpha/beta/release cycle, right? :) |
| # | 12:27:20 | Dyrcona | easy peasy lemon squeezy. |
| # | 12:27:40 | phasefx | of course, master is the new release for some folks ;) |
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| # | 12:28:14 | Dyrcona doesn't think we'll be upgrading for a couple of weeks, so there's time to work out some bugs. |
| # | 12:29:02 | Dyrcona | i've pushed another sign off on the fix the cruft commit |
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| # | 12:32:22 | tsbere will resume working on the beta build after lunch, then |
| # | 12:33:51 | kmlussier | Dev meeting agenda is started at http://www.open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2012-04-02 |
| # | 12:35:27 | denials | phasefx: that's why we have the next release in six months |
| # | 12:35:35 | eeevil | Dyrcona / phasefx: merging |
| # | 12:35:55 | jeff rebases |
| # | 12:36:00 | jeff | and rebase --aborts... |
| # | 12:38:41 | eeevil | WOOO HOOO |
| # | 12:40:44 | eeevil | the remaining pullrequests, other than the xulrunner branch (which I /won't/ be going near, sorry) are primarly bug fixes, and beta-applicable ... I agree with denials on getting his tpac i18n branch in asap, btw ... others poking that would be appreciated |
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| # | 12:52:15 | tsbere | eeevil: I don't want the xulrunner one in fore 2.2 anyway ;) |
| # | 12:52:39 | tsbere | s/fore/for/ <_< |
| # | 12:52:44 | tsbere should probably focus on lunch |
| # | 12:53:20 | denials thinks he needs to pull together OpenSRF 2.1.0-RC1 today |
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| # | 13:00:02 | tsbere | eeevil: Interestingly, it ended up becoming \set eg_version '''2.2''' |
| # | 13:00:35 | eeevil | tsbere: yeah, quoting... fun |
| # | 13:02:59 | tsbere votes that we never use ' in an official version string |
| # | 13:08:14 | berick | eeevil: hmm, something went wrong w/ merging 954310 |
| # | 13:08:36 | berick | that appears to be the old implementation.. |
| # | 13:08:47 | berick reviews the branches |
| # | 13:09:42 | berick | eeevil: yeah, the 'collab' branch was the latest one |
| # | 13:11:42 | tsbere | berick: I suppose I should hold off on building anything for a couple minutes, then, then. |
| # | 13:11:48 | berick | tsbere: yes, plase |
| # | 13:11:49 | tsbere | er, minus a then |
| # | 13:11:51 | tsbere | <_< |
| # | 13:11:56 | berick | we need to revert some commits |
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| # | 13:14:19 | jeff | bug 971680 should have been created in august. created now. feel free to ignore for the current release building -- i'm not trying to insert it into the process. |
| # | 13:14:19 | pinesol_green | Launchpad bug 971680 in Evergreen "OPAC ignores local library setting for barcode regex" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/971680 |
| # | 13:15:17 | tsbere | jeff: I am not sure I agree with that change anyway. Barcodes and usernames are both *shared* namespaces, so detecting one compared to the other should also be a shared setting. |
| # | 13:15:38 | jeff | sure, but that's not how evergreen currently works. |
| # | 13:15:46 | jeff | at least, as i understand it. |
| # | 13:16:40 | jeff | currently, it's "does this look like a barcode? if so, do a barcode login. else, do a username login." |
| # | 13:16:49 | tsbere | jeff: Last I checked the *database* enforces uniqueness of usernames across all locations and barcodes across all locations. Thus there is a single shared namespace for each of those. |
| # | 13:17:06 | berick | eeevil: i'm going to revert all the commits from the LP ticket (1b7c563~1..a25aa4e). |
| # | 13:17:43 | jeff | tsbere: so you're arguing that there should never be a permitted configuration where the opac barcode regex is set anywhere other than at the org root? |
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| # | 13:18:31 | tsbere | jeff: I am saying that, being a shared namespace, checking the org root makes sense. Otherwise if someone *does* try to log into the "wrong" OPAC the system may make the wrong decision as to whether or not they have a username or a barcode. |
| # | 13:19:24 | tsbere | jeff: And I know from experience that it isn't hard to get a pile of checks into a regex ;) |
| # | 13:20:46 | jeff | So in your scenario, the SYS3 patron has wandered in to the SYS1 scoped OPAC, and can't log in -- arguably because they're in the wrong place. In the meantime, patrons at SYS2 can't log in at all, because their barcodes are being detected as usernames, etc. |
| # | 13:21:49 | jeff | I think we can both agree that there is much room for improvement in the way of big changes in this area of username/barcode/login/etc logic. Until then, this is contributed in the hope that others find it as useful as we did. |
| # | 13:21:54 | tsbere | jeff: Tell me this, what happens if someone in SYS1 creates a *username* that looks like a SYS2 barcode. Now SYS2 gets an error "that username exists" when registering a patron with that barcode...... |
| # | 13:22:05 | jeff | Different consortiums are different. |
| # | 13:22:52 | jeff | tsbere: sure, known limitation when playing with others in a consortium where you have differing barcode formats. |
| # | 13:23:48 | jeff | tsbere: In an example where the SYS2 barcodes look like z123456789123, SYS1 staff/patrons are unlikely to have created a username in that format. |
| # | 13:23:49 | tsbere | jeff: My recommendation would be to create a single global regex that allows for multiple things. ^(regex1|regex2|regex3|regex4)$ |
| # | 13:26:09 | eeevil looks over here ... crap... |
| # | 13:26:27 | tsbere | jeff: Also, never underestimate the problems your patrons may cause ;) |
| # | 13:27:06 | eeevil | berick: ok ... so, the branch wasn't up to date? |
| # | 13:27:29 | tsbere thinks it was a "there ended up being multiple branches" thing |
| # | 13:27:30 | berick | eeevil: 'collab' instead of 'user'. it's listed about halfway down the ticket |
| # | 13:27:56 | berick | reverts pushed |
| # | 13:27:57 | eeevil | arg ... the benefit of git doubles as the pain of git |
| # | 13:28:29 | jeff | tsbere: your recommendation sounds like a valid alternative with its own pros/cons -- heck, go crazy and auto-build the One Regex from all of the other Regexes of Patron. Anyway, patches welcome and all that. |
| # | 13:29:13 | eeevil | berick: ok, do you want to merge, or is it safe |
| # | 13:29:55 | denials | berick: yeah, there's no such thing as revert :) |
| # | 13:30:15 | denials | just commits going forward forever in time |
| # | 13:30:51 | tsbere | denials: Force push with a "oh, sorry, those commits? We lied. They were never here." :P |
| # | 13:30:53 | eeevil | ok, re-merging |
| # | 13:31:03 | berick | eeevil: as far as I know, the collab branch is good to go. |
| # | 13:31:37 | berick | denials: oh, you know what I mean |
| # | 13:31:41 | berick | git revert's |
| # | 13:33:11 | eeevil | tsbere: 0702 about to come back ... may be different |
| # | 13:33:20 | tsbere | eeevil: I noted. |
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| # | 13:34:36 | eeevil | pushed |
| # | 13:34:47 | tsbere | jeff: I put my opinion on your bug. |
| # | 13:38:09 | berick does a quick base schema install to check for any last-minute brokenness |
| # | 13:38:51 | tsbere | jeff: I suspect that the two of us will never see eye to eye on that issue. On the other hand, I will point out that the bug is likely to get ignored unless you add a pullrequest. |
| # | 13:39:40 | tsbere | berick: I keep doing that over and over and over, and I keep loading rel_2_1's base and applying the upgrade script to it. <_< |
| # | 13:40:06 | tsbere thinks he is done playing with the upgrade script |
| # | 13:40:39 | berick | still seeing the 'event_params' seed data error, but I assume that's not a showstopper? |
| # | 13:41:03 | tsbere | denials thinks we shouldn't fix that until the end of the week |
| # | 13:41:13 | tsbere | because it makes for a nice bitesize GSoC target |
| # | 13:41:18 | berick | ah, ok |
| # | 13:41:37 | jeff | tsbere: thanks for the pullrequest reminder. |
| # | 13:42:40 | tsbere | jeff: note that my objection means *I* won't review/push it, so you may want to hope that some other dev agrees with you more than I do ;) |
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| # | 13:44:41 | tsbere runs the 2.1-2.2 upgrade script he has been updating through one more pass of a clean rel_2_1 just to be safe |
| # | 13:46:44 | bhupendrasingh | evergreen android app some help guys |
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| # | 13:47:52 | denials | bhupendrasingh: what are you proposing? |
| # | 13:48:07 | denials | ~gsoc |
| # | 13:48:07 | pinesol_green | gsoc is Looking for information on Google Summer of Code and Evergreen? 2012 Project page: http://goo.gl/5tCHe Evergreen ideas page: http://goo.gl/kOZJd GSoC Student Guide: http://goo.gl/vlCtG |
| # | 13:49:05 | denials | and also http://evergreen-ils.org/blog/?p=750 ("GSoC 2012 and you" post on the Evergreen blog) |
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| # | 13:51:22 | bhupendrasingh | i am proposing for the evergreen app on android for gsoc 2012 |
| # | 13:51:31 | bhupendrasingh | @denials |
| # | 13:51:32 | pinesol_green | bhupendrasingh: Error: "denials" is not a valid command. |
| # | 13:52:07 | tsbere | Hmm |
| # | 13:52:11 | tsbere | ~gsoc |
| # | 13:52:11 | pinesol_green | gsoc is Looking for information on Google Summer of Code and Evergreen? 2012 Project page: http://goo.gl/5tCHe Evergreen ideas page: http://goo.gl/kOZJd GSoC Student Guide: http://goo.gl/vlCtG |
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| # | 13:52:24 | bhupendrasingh | could u guys tell me like how can i start |
| # | 13:52:24 | tsbere | no ~gsoc is Looking for information on Google Summer of Code and Evergreen? 2012 Project page: http://goo.gl/5tCHe Evergreen ideas page: http://goo.gl/kOZJd GSoC Student Guide: http://goo.gl/vlCtG GSoC 2012 and you Blog Post: http://goo.gl/gw8Dc |
| # | 13:52:29 | csharp | huh - you saw me change that right? |
| # | 13:53:11 | csharp | ~gsoc is Looking for information on Google Summer of Code and Evergreen? 2012 Project page: http://goo.gl/5tCHe Evergreen ideas page: http://goo.gl/kOZJd GSoC Student Guide: http://goo.gl/vlCtG GSoC 2012 and you Blog Post: http://goo.gl/gw8Dc |
| # | 13:53:11 | pinesol_green | But gsoc already means something else! |
| # | 13:53:20 | csharp | ~no gsoc is Looking for information on Google Summer of Code and Evergreen? 2012 Project page: http://goo.gl/5tCHe Evergreen ideas page: http://goo.gl/kOZJd GSoC Student Guide: http://goo.gl/vlCtG GSoC 2012 and you Blog Post: http://goo.gl/gw8Dc |
| # | 13:53:20 | pinesol_green | I'll remember that csharp |
| # | 13:53:25 | csharp | ~gsoc |
| # | 13:53:25 | pinesol_green | gsoc is Looking for information on Google Summer of Code and Evergreen? 2012 Project page: http://goo.gl/5tCHe Evergreen ideas page: http://goo.gl/kOZJd GSoC Student Guide: http://goo.gl/vlCtG GSoC 2012 and you Blog Post: http://goo.gl/gw8Dc |
| # | 13:53:29 | csharp | argh |
| # | 13:53:30 | tsbere put the ~ in the wrong place <_< |
| # | 13:53:47 | bhupendrasingh | i am trying to work on Create Android client(s) for Evergreen |
| # | 13:53:56 | tsbere | csharp: All I saw you do earlier was remove a space |
| # | 13:55:00 | tsbere may have been wrong about the space removal, things don't line up with an extra "no " in front of them |
| # | 13:55:35 | csharp | ~no gsoc is <reply> Looking for information on Google Summer of Code and Evergreen? 2012 Project page: http://goo.gl/5tCHe Evergreen ideas page: http://goo.gl/kOZJd GSoC Student Guide: http://goo.gl/vlCtG GSoC 2012 and you Blog Post: http://goo.gl/gw8Dc |
| # | 13:55:35 | pinesol_green | I'll remember that csharp |
| # | 13:55:44 | csharp | ~gsoc |
| # | 13:55:46 | pinesol_green | Looking for information on Google Summer of Code and Evergreen? 2012 Project page: http://goo.gl/5tCHe Evergreen ideas page: http://goo.gl/kOZJd GSoC Student Guide: http://goo.gl/vlCtG GSoC 2012 and you Blog Post: http://goo.gl/gw8Dc |
| # | 13:55:53 | csharp | syntax helps |
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| # | 13:56:13 | bhupendrasingh | ? |
| # | 13:56:15 | denials | csharp++ |
| # | 13:56:21 | tsbere | csharp++ |
| # | 13:56:36 | bhupendrasingh | ? |
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| # | 13:57:13 | denials | bhupendrasingh: You need to create a proposal. "Android client for Evergreen" is too broad. Your proposal should be as detailed as the examples we point to on the Evergreen Ideas Page. |
| # | 13:57:43 | tsbere | bhupendrasingh: What do you plan on making your android client do? Will it be for staff? Patrons? What will people be able to do with it? etc etc |
| # | 13:58:00 | denials | So propose what features you want the Android client to offer, what the design would look like, and how you plan on going from what we have today to a working client by the end of the summer. |
| # | 13:58:27 | bhupendrasingh | what org wants is this.. |
| # | 13:58:28 | bhupendrasingh | a library patron app - enable a user to search the catalogue, renew items, manage holds, change their address information |
| # | 13:58:28 | bhupendrasingh | â– |
| # | 13:58:28 | bhupendrasingh | an inventory app - attach a USB barcode scanner to a tablet and scan the collection |
| # | 13:58:53 | bhupendrasingh | these are the two features that the org want to be implemented on android |
| # | 13:59:08 | bhupendrasingh | since i am new to evergreen i dont how it works |
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| # | 13:59:39 | denials slips out to check in on a "critical" local issue |
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| # | 14:00:39 | tsbere watches his make release script make a beta1 release |
| # | 14:00:52 | dbwells | bhupendrasingh: well, the people in this channel are the "org" :) Those are just some ideas. If they make sense to you and sound reasonable, propose one (or both). If you don't know, maybe do some more research first. |
| # | 14:00:53 | kmlussier | tsbere++ |
| # | 14:00:57 | kivilahtio1 | tsbere++ |
| # | 14:01:28 | tsbere notes the time |
| # | 14:02:49 | tsbere watches his dev machine run out of disk space in the middle of trying to build languages <_< |
| # | 14:02:54 | tsbere | Time to clear out the logs! |
| # | 14:03:00 | kivilahtio1 | must be the finnish localizations ;) |
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| # | 14:04:25 | kmlussier | Meeting time? |
| # | 14:04:30 | swills_ | naw, it's the klingon localizations (which, frankly, was going too far imho) |
| # | 14:04:58 | kivilahtio1 | swills_: Klingon is hot in the States? |
| # | 14:05:04 | phasefx wishes his library had a Trekkie collection :) |
| # | 14:05:18 | tsbere had >20gb of logs <_< |
| # | 14:05:22 | swills_ | in the galaxy….uh…soon? |
| # | 14:05:25 | tsbere | kmlussier: I do believe it is meeting time |
| # | 14:05:27 | kivilahtio1 | :D |
| # | 14:05:52 | tsbere deletes >20 gig of logs and re-starts the make release script |
| # | 14:06:49 | kmlussier | I wonder if bshum is too busy with his upgrade to walk us through the agenda. :) |
| # | 14:08:00 | kivilahtio1 | somebody got his number? |
| # | 14:08:59 | eeevil | I can run meetbot, I think |
| # | 14:10:00 | eeevil plows ahead |
| # | 14:10:04 | eeevil | #startmeeting |
| # | 14:10:04 | pinesol_green | Meeting started Mon Apr 2 14:10:04 2012 US/Eastern. The chair is eeevil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| # | 14:10:04 | pinesol_green | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. |
| # | 14:10:43 | eeevil | hrm.. |
| # | 14:10:47 | eeevil | #endmeeting |
| # | 14:10:47 | pinesol_green | Meeting ended Mon Apr 2 14:10:47 2012 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| # | 14:10:47 | pinesol_green | Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2012/evergreen.2012-04-02-14.10.html |
| # | 14:10:47 | pinesol_green | Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2012/evergreen.2012-04-02-14.10.txt |
| # | 14:10:47 | pinesol_green | Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2012/evergreen.2012-04-02-14.10.log.html |
| # | 14:10:49 | eeevil | #startmeeting 2012-04-02 - Developer Meeting |
| # | 14:10:49 | pinesol_green | Meeting started Mon Apr 2 14:10:49 2012 US/Eastern. The chair is eeevil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| # | 14:10:49 | pinesol_green | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. |
| # | 14:11:21 | eeevil | #info eeevil is Mike Rylander, ESI |
| # | 14:11:24 | dbwells | eeevil: I was just checking out http://www.evergreen-ils.org/irc_logs/evergreen/2012-03/%23evergreen.19-Mon-2012.log for reference on past meeting commands. |
| # | 14:11:44 | tsbere | #info tsbere is Thomas Berezansky, MVLC |
| # | 14:11:50 | kivilahtio1 | #info kivilahtio is Olli-Antti Kivilahti, Library of Joensuu |
| # | 14:11:58 | phasefx | #info phasefx is Jason Etheridge, ESI |
| # | 14:12:06 | jeff | #info jeff is Jeff Godin, Traverse Area District Library (TADL) |
| # | 14:12:09 | dbwells | #info dbwells is Dan Wells, Calvin College |
| # | 14:12:12 | eeevil | denials: good idea, thanks! |
| # | 14:12:24 | kmlussier | #info kmlussier is Kathy Lussier, MassLNC |
| # | 14:12:30 | bshum | #info bshum is Ben Shum, Bibliomation |
| # | 14:12:31 | swills_ | #info swills is Steve Wills |
| # | 14:12:37 | berick | #info berick is Bill Erickson, Equinox |
| # | 14:12:55 | bshum | eeevil++ # wrestling the bot |
| # | 14:12:55 | eeevil | #link Agenda: http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2012-04-02 |
| # | 14:13:12 | eeevil | bshum! you want the chair, don't you! |
| # | 14:13:21 | denials is Dan Scott, Laurentian University |
| # | 14:13:27 | jamesrf | #info jamesrf is James Fournie, BC Libraries Cooperative |
| # | 14:13:30 | bshum | eeevil: Nah, you totally got this :) |
| # | 14:14:31 | eeevil | ok ... first up: denials to respond to rsoulliere with some ideas about DIG participation in release process |
| # | 14:15:02 | tsbere | eeevil: Topic command? |
| # | 14:15:03 | denials | I have done no such thing. Sorry. |
| # | 14:15:12 | eeevil | tsbere: ahh ... sure |
| # | 14:15:24 | eeevil | #topic denials to respond to rsoulliere with some ideas about DIG participation in release process |
| # | 14:16:18 | denials | #info denials still needs to do that |
| # | 14:16:41 | eeevil | #topic bshum to help update the release checklist page |
| # | 14:17:03 | bshum | #info bshum defers to next meeting to work on that further. |
| # | 14:17:27 | eeevil | #topic tsbere to cut 2.2 Beta1 on April 2 |
| # | 14:17:42 | eeevil | #info YOU'RE SOAKING IN IT |
| # | 14:17:44 | tsbere appears to have files to upload on that front |
| # | 14:17:47 | tsbere | :D |
| # | 14:18:09 | tsbere | #info tsbere is in the middle of that but should be done shortly |
| # | 14:18:14 | eeevil | super ... on to new biz |
| # | 14:18:31 | eeevil | #topic JSPAC deprecation and removal: schedule proposal |
| # | 14:18:57 | eeevil | is 1 year enough? |
| # | 14:19:41 | mrpeters-isl | seems like plenty of time |
| # | 14:19:48 | bshum | I like the proposed timeline. +1 from us |
| # | 14:20:01 | eeevil | mrpeters-isl: heh ... recall ACQ's timeline, originally ;) |
| # | 14:20:03 | jeff | +1 on the proposed timeline |
| # | 14:20:05 | eeevil | just sayin' |
| # | 14:20:07 | kivilahtio1 | +1 if my vote has any weight |
| # | 14:20:23 | mrpeters-isl | should we set some kind of goal that says "90%" or some other number, of features existing in jspac must be available in ttpac before discontinuing? |
| # | 14:20:38 | mrpeters-isl | just to be sure we don't lose any features |
| # | 14:20:43 | denials | What if a feature is deemed useless? |
| # | 14:20:53 | phasefx | if someone champions a feature, it should get migrated |
| # | 14:20:55 | eeevil | mrpeters-isl: that (cataloging the differences, culling what's actually desired) is the first step |
| # | 14:20:55 | mrpeters-isl | i'd say a community vote on that would be acceptable |
| # | 14:21:06 | phasefx | unless the feature is "use a lot of Javascript" :) |
| # | 14:21:07 | kivilahtio1 | do you have any kind of a requirements specification regarding OPAC? |
| # | 14:21:17 | jeff | Shoot for feature parity, clearly communicate intended loss of features, solicit squeaky wheels / champions. |
| # | 14:21:19 | eeevil | phasefx: shush! |
| # | 14:21:21 | denials | kivilahtio1: Not a comprehensive one, no |
| # | 14:21:29 | denials | jeff++ |
| # | 14:22:00 | eeevil | ok ... who wants to diff them? :) |
| # | 14:22:20 | eeevil | but, I'm really just playing devil's advocate here |
| # | 14:22:35 | eeevil | +1 from me, I think it can be done if it's a stated goal |
| # | 14:22:43 | eeevil | and, therefore... |
| # | 14:22:45 | jeff | A list of features in jspac and their status in ttpac would be a good starting point. |
| # | 14:23:06 | bshum | jeff: Might be easier to walk through each screen in jspac and tpac and see "what's different" |
| # | 14:23:11 | jeff | (and said list if compiled before conference might generate additional hackfest ideas) |
| # | 14:23:12 | bshum | (and/or missing) |
| # | 14:23:13 | denials | Who wants to volunteer to build that list? |
| # | 14:23:14 | kivilahtio1 | I wonder if we could help with that |
| # | 14:23:29 | mrpeters-isl | maybe it'd be easier to list the features NOT yet in TTPAC |
| # | 14:23:31 | kmlussier | Is this a good place to start? http://www.open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=dev:opac:template-toolkit:release_notes&s[]=template&s[]=toolkit |
| # | 14:23:33 | kivilahtio1 | we are currently working on our requiremetns specification and one sections is about web-library aka. OPAC |
| # | 14:23:38 | mrpeters-isl | rather than listing all of the features of JSpac |
| # | 14:23:48 | denials | Such a comprehensive list might be useful in terms of building a mapping of apache redirects from jspac to tpac as well |
| # | 14:23:59 | eeevil | #agreed Deprecate JSPAC at 2.2+1, remove at 2.2+2 |
| # | 14:24:02 | denials | kivilahtio1++ |
| # | 14:25:19 | kivilahtio1 | our accuracy so far has been very low |
| # | 14:25:21 | bshum | Maybe we can make this a hackfest topic. |
| # | 14:25:30 | mrpeters-isl | thats a good idea, bshum |
| # | 14:25:34 | kivilahtio1 | but we could do a feature match |
| # | 14:25:35 | bshum vaguely remembers denials poking me about tpac dev session |
| # | 14:26:52 | eeevil | well, we ended up sliding right into the next ... |
| # | 14:26:59 | eeevil | #topic Preparing for the Evergreen Conference hackfest |
| # | 14:27:53 | eeevil | I added an idea just a moment ago, too. gmcharlt may be interested to list his name for that? |
| # | 14:28:30 | dbwells is getting called away from his desk |
| # | 14:29:31 | denials would take an action item on publicizing the "EG2012 hackfest project list" on the mailing list |
| # | 14:29:46 | eeevil | very well, sir: |
| # | 14:30:04 | eeevil | #action denials will publicize the "EG2012 hackfest project list" on the mailing list |
| # | 14:31:18 | eeevil | anything else we should go over right now? volunteers to "officially" test 2.2-b1? |
| # | 14:31:37 | eeevil | #topic announcements/general |
| # | 14:31:37 | bshum | eeevil: We'll be testing the upgrade SQL later tonight/tomorrow |
| # | 14:32:42 | eeevil | bshum: cool. report of a positive result on-list would be a GoodThing(TM) I think |
| # | 14:33:07 | eeevil | or negative, but it's less often that we see a "that worked as expected" report ;) |
| # | 14:33:34 | bshum | Heh |
| # | 14:33:38 | bshum | Will do. |
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| # | 14:34:17 | eeevil | any announcements from/for the community at large? |
| # | 14:34:39 | kivilahtio1 | good work with the 2.2 |
| # | 14:34:44 | kivilahtio1 | I am liking the changes |
| # | 14:35:23 | eeevil | reminder for DIG, ESI will be putting up piles of docs for 2.2 features RSN, with more to come over the following weeks during beta |
| # | 14:35:55 | kmlussier | eeevil++ |
| # | 14:36:07 | bshum | ESI++ |
| # | 14:36:08 | eeevil | kivilahtio1: from the whole core team, thanks ... this is a big one |
| # | 14:36:14 | tsbere found a root-owned readonly folder screwing up his make release run, thinks he has gotten his dev machine to play nice now <_< |
| # | 14:36:53 | eeevil | ok ... I think that's it ... onward to 2.2, folks! |
| # | 14:36:57 | eeevil | #endmeeting |
| # | 14:36:57 | pinesol_green | Meeting ended Mon Apr 2 14:36:57 2012 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| # | 14:36:57 | pinesol_green | Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2012/evergreen.2012-04-02-14.10.html |
| # | 14:36:57 | pinesol_green | Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2012/evergreen.2012-04-02-14.10.txt |
| # | 14:36:57 | pinesol_green | Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2012/evergreen.2012-04-02-14.10.log.html |
| # | 14:37:14 | berick | tsbere: is the plan to create rel_2_2 as beta1 is cut? |
| # | 14:37:19 | berick | eeevil++ |
| # | 14:37:57 | tsbere | berick: I plan on pushing both branches at the same time. I have both locally now. |
| # | 14:38:09 | berick | tsbere: cool |
| # | 14:38:10 | tsbere likes to make sure the tarballs look right before pushing branches |
| # | 14:38:17 | mrpeters-isl will install beta to testing.evergreen.lib.in.us when its done |
| # | 14:38:52 | berick | bshum: are you still able to reliably cause the problem where the progress updates stop working during ACQ file upload? |
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| # | 14:39:12 | bshum | berick: We were, though it's been random. Works for some, doesn't for others. |
| # | 14:39:25 | bshum | berick: I was going to try it again on a fresh DB reload / master update |
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| # | 14:40:05 | berick | bshum: k. i'm about to push a patch that might fix it if you don't mind applying it.. |
| # | 14:40:13 | berick | s/push/publish/ |
| # | 14:40:17 | bshum | Some folks also figured that hitting the Upload button more than once sometimes pushed the progress display up, but then it also uploaded the order more than once :) |
| # | 14:40:33 | berick | heh, yeah, probably not the best solution |
| # | 14:40:40 | bshum | berick: Oooooo fancy. Point me at it and I'll make sure we add it to our final build. |
| # | 14:41:07 | berick | is it possible to see dojo's console.log msgs anywhere in the staff client? |
| # | 14:42:00 | tsbere | berick: I would assume they show up in the javascript console or in the window that -console opens.....unless dojo has a console that needs to be shown per-page? |
| # | 14:42:19 | senator | they show up in neither place |
| # | 14:42:23 | berick | tsbere: i would have thought js console too, but i'm not seeing them... |
| # | 14:42:25 | senator | only in firebug or chrome's built in thing |
| # | 14:42:29 | berick | thanks senator |
| # | 14:42:39 | berick will use dump() for now w/ a try/catch |
| # | 14:42:44 | berick | for his test patch |
| # | 14:43:08 | kivilahtio1 | btw, will there be changes to localization strings due to migration from JSPAC to TPAC? |
| # | 14:43:15 | kivilahtio1 | I mean will the old onew get obsoleted? |
| # | 14:43:40 | kivilahtio1 | prolly not all of them, but it would be unconventional to pay for the localizations and find out that we need to redo 300 strings more |
| # | 14:45:16 | jeff | var url = browser_frame.contentWindow.g.browser.controller.view.browser_browser.contentWindow.wrappedJSObject.location.href; |
| # | 14:45:57 | jeff | this would be a good stopping point for this tangent. |
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| # | 14:47:28 | tsbere | jeff: Oh come on, you can do better than that. Add in some ability to call it from any window too! :P |
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| # | 14:48:50 | kivilahtio1 | but the main localization changes focus on the OPAC-modules? So we are safe to push the rest of the localizable strings |
| # | 14:49:21 | kivilahtio1 | how often are the launchpad files updated to reflect master changes? |
| # | 14:50:16 | kivilahtio1 | and who is going to make the JSPAC TPAC comparison? |
| # | 14:50:39 | tsbere would answer kivilahtio1 if he had more of a basic clue about translation stuff.....he still has to get some of the stuff denials gave him for pulling stuff down figured out at some point |
| # | 14:51:05 | denials | sorry, was afk |
| # | 14:51:10 | jeff | tsbere: i can't claim responsibility for that line. i was off trying to see what difference there was between urls['opac'] and urls['browser'] in the staff client. |
| # | 14:51:33 | tsbere | jeff: Ahhh. Did you check constants.js? :P |
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| # | 14:51:45 | denials | kivilahtio1: there will be some significant changes to strings between tpac and jspac |
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| # | 14:52:23 | denials | Launchpad will suggest exact or close matches from existing translations, at least |
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| # | 14:53:08 | denials | as for how often Launchpad translations gets updated - the answer is "not very, and not on any kind of regular schedule". We lack a real translation coordinator, I've just been playing the role (badly) for years |
| # | 14:54:04 | jeff | tsbere: yes. constants.js recommends custom.js as an override, and examples there include both the opac and browser keys within urls[] -- in a 2.1 client, urls['browser'] seems to matter most for "change my opac skin" |
| # | 14:54:11 | kivilahtio1 | denials: so how could we help? |
| # | 14:54:25 | jeff | tsbere: i went off on a tangent wondering "huh... i wonder..." and decided to stop. |
| # | 14:54:47 | tsbere | jeff: For 2.2+ custom.js munging is less attractive due to TPac and the toggle button. |
| # | 14:55:17 | jeff | yeah. i've got that in the back of my head, but not yet. thanks -- it'll be helpful soon. |
| # | 14:55:58 | kivilahtio1 | denials: not often means; a) once a month, b) once every two months, c) once every 6 months? |
| # | 14:56:31 | kivilahtio1 | somehow I expected Launchpad to autogenerate .po files from master branch |
| # | 14:56:51 | tsbere | kivilahtio1: Whenever someone goes and manually pushes buttons, I think. |
| # | 14:56:53 | denials | kivilahtio1: the problem is in getting the PO/POT files to/from Launchpad (which uses bzr) and git |
| # | 14:57:10 | denials | also, Launchpad uses different locale names than Evergreen does |
| # | 14:57:19 | kivilahtio1 | ok |
| # | 14:57:38 | denials | so the process is basically: 1) Grab the latest PO files from Launchpad and copy them into place in an Evergreen checkout |
| # | 14:57:52 | kivilahtio1 | denials: so would it be better if i supplied our localizers with .po-files from our 2.2 alpha3 installation? |
| # | 14:58:10 | berick | bshum: collab/berick/opensrf-js-multipart-monkey-patch -- if the error condition occurs, it should automatically repair and log a message to the xulrunner console (terminal, not js console) |
| # | 14:58:25 | denials | 2) "make newpot; make updatepo" to update the POT / PO files with newly added strings |
| # | 14:58:42 | denials | 3) Update bzr in Launchpad with the updated POT / PO files |
| # | 14:59:25 | denials | kivilahtio1: if you build the PO files yourself, maybe, but then those translations won't be in Launchpad? |
| # | 14:59:49 | kivilahtio1 | denials: our translators want somehting so they can inmmediatelly observe the results |
| # | 14:59:56 | kivilahtio1 | so i made them a small web service |
| # | 14:59:57 | kivilahtio1 | http://62.148.106.44:8080/localizer/index.pl |
| # | 15:00:21 | denials | kivilahtio1: so you're converting the PO files back into JS / DTD / SQL files? |
| # | 15:00:32 | kivilahtio1 | basically you import .po files which should be name according to the launchpad naming convention. Then you make a new win-client build and download and setup it |
| # | 15:00:50 | denials | well, that gives you some of the strings at least |
| # | 15:00:55 | kivilahtio1 | i just use the build/i18n/make LOCALE='fi-FI' install |
| # | 15:01:47 | kivilahtio1 | denials: it creates a sql-file from data.seed-values |
| # | 15:02:05 | kivilahtio1 | and the others are JS dtd files yes |
| # | 15:02:16 | kivilahtio1 | denials: so yes i do |
| # | 15:03:05 | tsbere found a way to hide commits from email, on accident |
| # | 15:04:28 | denials | kivilahtio1: right, so if that rebuilds the installed test server as well then it sounds like you're pretty good to go |
| # | 15:04:30 | berick | bshum: that's in the opensrf working repo, in case it wasn't clear (which it probably wasn't) |
| # | 15:04:55 | kivilahtio1 | denials: instead of rebuilding, I just move the files to corresponding places in the /openils/folders* |
| # | 15:05:05 | kivilahtio1 | denials: works like a charm, I guess |
| # | 15:05:36 | denials | kivilahtio1: are you also running "make newport & make updatepo" to generate updated PO files for the translators? |
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| # | 15:05:52 | kivilahtio1 | denials: you need to run them only once? |
| # | 15:06:03 | kivilahtio1 | denials: afaik |
| # | 15:06:20 | denials | kivilahtio1: well, for a given release, yes. assuming you're only running 2.2 alpha3 |
| # | 15:07:04 | kivilahtio1 | denials: but the newport creates the .po files out of the downloaded sourcecode? |
| # | 15:07:11 | denials | Right, any updates to strings in the database won't show up via that process, but otherwise it should be okay |
| # | 15:07:32 | kivilahtio1 | denials: no it wont, but that wont be necessary until we touch the data.seeds-values file |
| # | 15:07:33 | denials | kivilahtio1: "make newpot" creates the POT files from the source code, yes |
| # | 15:08:06 | kivilahtio1 | denials: to get the latest .po files I need to download a new version of the source code, checkout in git terms? |
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| # | 15:08:22 | denials | (all of this would be gold for a GSoC student who wants to tackle "overhaul the i18n system", alas there probably won't be any) |
| # | 15:08:27 | denials | kivilahtio1: yep |
| # | 15:08:43 | denials | kivilahtio1: well, wait... .PO or .POT? |
| # | 15:09:11 | denials | latest .PO for all locales would come from Launchpad, until they get updated in git |
| # | 15:09:20 | kivilahtio1 | denials: afaik I only touch .po, .pot seems to be unnecessary |
| # | 15:09:27 | denials | latest .POT would come from git checkout + "make newpot" |
| # | 15:09:29 | mrpeters-isl installs beta1 |
| # | 15:09:39 | kivilahtio1 | strangely I have my folders full of .po |
| # | 15:09:58 | kivilahtio1 | hmm |
| # | 15:09:59 | denials | kivilahtio1: you need the latest POT so that when you run "make updatepo" you get the new / changed strings |
| # | 15:10:41 | denials | build/i18n/po/opac.dtd/opac.dtd.pot exists, surely? |
| # | 15:10:57 | kivilahtio1 | connecting to server to check it out |
| # | 15:12:19 | kivilahtio1 | denials: /Evergreen-ILS-master/build/i18n/po/ -folder has a folder named after the Launchpad translation modules, and each one contains ll-LL.po locale fies |
| # | 15:12:59 | kivilahtio1 | and one module.pot |
| # | 15:13:09 | kivilahtio1 | .pot's were there |
| # | 15:13:24 | kivilahtio1 | anyway it works nicely |
| # | 15:13:55 | denials | after all this, /me isn't sure what kivilahtio1 wanted :) |
| # | 15:14:57 | jeff | Callender++ for fixing random broken bits |
| # | 15:15:00 | kivilahtio1 | I wanted to know how much the OPAC-modules will change in TPAC |
| # | 15:15:31 | kivilahtio1 | denials: and I was thinking maybe wqe should leave the translation for the OPAC as the last leg |
| # | 15:16:13 | kivilahtio1 | denials: and also to know how often the launchpad localization files are updated, because currently the localizers are instructed to take the .po files from launchpad |
| # | 15:16:47 | kivilahtio1 | denials: and i want them to have the lates .po files |
| # | 15:17:07 | kivilahtio1 | denials: then you said that i18n stuff is a mess and I asked can we help with it |
| # | 15:19:04 | kivilahtio1 | denials: i18n stuff doenst seem to be a mess |
| # | 15:20:03 | kivilahtio1 | denials: imho |
| # | 15:20:18 | denials | kivilahtio1: well, that's nice of you, but not having any predictability about when the POT files get updated in Launchpad or when the updated PO files get merged back into git seems a bit messy to me |
| # | 15:21:04 | denials | If you wanted to take on that role and/or build scripts for automating more of it, that would be pretty awesome IMO :) |
| # | 15:21:05 | kivilahtio1 | .po files get merged when someone with commit priviledges commits them? |
| # | 15:21:27 | kivilahtio1 | I have very little knowledge about git or launchpad |
| # | 15:21:29 | bshum remembers when denials added Spanish for us :) |
| # | 15:21:32 | kivilahtio1 | :D |
| # | 15:21:41 | kivilahtio1 | you even got Russian |
| # | 15:21:43 | kivilahtio1 | which is way ool |
| # | 15:22:15 | kivilahtio1 | well for sure we will upload our .po's when they are finished |
| # | 15:23:54 | denials | kivilahtio1: by definition, committers commit files :) but the real win would be in automating the updates between Launchpad and git in each direction so it could happen on a nightly or weekly basis, and have some idea about releases (another significant "gotcha") |
| # | 15:24:17 | denials | or write Launchpad and it's bzr-ness out of the process and use some other tool |
| # | 15:24:43 | denials | For Russian, all credit goes to Tigran Zargaryan |
| # | 15:25:38 | tsbere votes for writing Launchpad out of the mix if at all possible, to avoid git/bzr issues and tweaking of language codes >_> |
| # | 15:25:39 | kivilahtio1 | denials: thanks for the chat, but we are off to watch Rome here |
| # | 15:25:53 | denials | kivilahtio1++ |
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| # | 15:31:00 | denials | https://www.transifex.net/ is another option, hosted version is free for open source projects, if someone feels so inclined as to check it out |
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| # | 15:31:42 | denials | or we could go back to Pootle |
| # | 15:31:42 | bshum | berick: Oh OpenSRF change, not Evergreen. Fancy, we'll make sure we grab that commit in our pull for OpenSRF then. |
| # | 15:31:59 | berick | bshum++ |
| # | 15:32:02 | berick | thanks for testing |
| # | 15:36:00 | tsbere | denials: I may take a look at transifex there. If I can figure it out fairly quickly I will see about going that route ;) |
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| # | 15:43:59 | mrpeters-isl begs consortium to test beta 1 |
| # | 15:44:23 | mrpeters-isl wishes they could see the connection between testing, and those bugs they complain about when we upgrade :) |
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| # | 15:45:59 | bshum | Heh |
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| # | 15:46:51 | tsbere | mrpeters-isl: I once told a person "if you had tested you might have found this before we installed it" only to get back a "We don't have TIME to test, isn't that your job?" type response. |
| # | 15:47:04 | mrpeters-isl | oh yeah, ive heard that before |
| # | 15:47:22 | mrpeters-isl | i wish i knew all of the librian stuff so i could test more things |
| # | 15:47:35 | mrpeters-isl | i think lots of us suffer from that |
| # | 15:47:42 | tsbere | I wish the librarians knew the librarian stuff. Testing or no. ;) |
| # | 15:47:47 | Dyrcona | heh. |
| # | 15:47:47 | mrpeters-isl | ha |
| # | 15:47:56 | phasefx | I do think we're getting a larger pool of people who _make_ time to test things; still need more automated testing, though :) |
| # | 15:47:59 | Dyrcona is a librarian, has the degree to prove it. :) |
| # | 15:48:12 | tsbere was considering getting that degree, but isn't sure he wants it |
| # | 15:48:29 | Dyrcona | you'd only need it if you wanted my job. |
| # | 15:48:49 | tsbere | I am not sure I would want that either :P |
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| # | 15:55:45 | tsbere | phasefx: I just recommended to mrpeters-isl that he change the password regex to .* |
| # | 15:55:54 | tsbere | That will stop all complaints from the opac |
| # | 15:56:20 | tsbere | "It's a test server. We don't need security on a test server that we are PUBLISHING THE MASTER ACCOUNT TO" ;) |
| # | 15:56:56 | phasefx | cool deal |
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| # | 16:04:00 | bshum | Hmm, can't remember if beta was the time to shift from red to yellow |
| # | 16:04:08 | bshum | Or if we saved that for RC's |
| # | 16:05:49 | bshum | Hmm, 2.1 historically seems to have held red for beta |
| # | 16:05:55 | bshum | Guess we'll keep it red for now then |
| # | 16:12:42 | denials | I would support moving to yellow for beta in the future, assuming we get better about avoiding last-minute commits :) |
| # | 16:17:15 | hopkinsju | Anyone here use the EC2 AMI? I'm trying to get logged in but I'm not sure what user I'm supposed to login as since Ubuntu doesn't like direct login to root. |
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| # | 16:18:34 | Dyrcona | Question: Do we expect there to be a beta2 or will we be going straight to RC1? |
| # | 16:19:23 | denials | hopkinsju: "The images have a README file in /home/ubuntu which lists the passwords for the opensrf and postgres users, and evergreen passwords"? |
| # | 16:19:25 | hopkinsju | Looks like 'ubuntu' might work... |
| # | 16:19:32 | denials | (last line in http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=community_servers) |
| # | 16:19:56 | hopkinsju | denials: Right, but I can't see those files until I get logged in ;) (or at least I don't know how) This is my first time using EC2 |
| # | 16:19:58 | denials | maybe the "opensrf" user? /me hasn't tried |
| # | 16:20:20 | denials | failing that, the last line of the last line is Contact Brian Feifarek [bfeifarek (at) q.com] if you have further questions. |
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| # | 16:32:09 | tsbere | Dyrcona: I imagine if we run into a pile of issues we will want a beta2. Otherwise we may go straight for RC1. |
| # | 16:32:43 | hopkinsju | denials: Yeah, 'ubuntu' was the username to use, but I'm still not able to connect. /shrug I'm done with this for today. I'll email Brian and see what he has to say. |
| # | 16:37:35 | denials | Dyrcona: I concur with tsbere. Some day we might have more formal criteria for releases, but I don't think we have that today |
| # | 16:38:08 | denials | berick: did you want that opensrf.js hack in OpenSRF 2.1.0-RC1 or should I just tar up what we have? |
| # | 16:39:31 | berick | denials: it needs more testing |
| # | 16:39:33 | denials wonders if http://alestic.com/2009/04/ubuntu-ec2-sudo-ssh-rsync applies to the EG images |
| # | 16:39:36 | berick | thanks, though |
| # | 16:39:51 | denials | berick: cool. I will forge ahead then. Also, it needs one less 'n' in "Cleanning" :) |
| # | 16:40:15 | berick | hah |
| # | 16:40:55 | berick | i'll be sure to *ahem* clense that |
| # | 16:43:25 | denials | berick++ |
| # | 16:44:07 | gmcharlt | berick: what, wthdraw a persistent typo? </koha-bugaboo> |
| # | 16:47:43 | berick | they're such an encumberance |
| # | 16:47:45 | berick ducks |
| # | 16:49:18 | denials | it's a recuring problem |
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| # | 16:50:25 | berick | heh |
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| # | 16:55:13 | dbwells | :D |
| # | 16:55:39 | Dyrcona | dbs: you gonna commit those OpenSRF changes to master, too? |
| # | 16:56:17 | Dyrcona | denials, rather. |
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| # | 17:06:23 | tsbere thinks he has a basic handle on how transifex works....but should probably wait before doing anything significant in case someone from GSoC actually wants to work on our i18n mess |
| # | 17:06:57 | denials | Dyrcona: the version number commit is the only one that's not in master |
| # | 17:07:09 | Dyrcona | ah ok. |
| # | 17:07:12 | denials is focusing on release |
| # | 17:07:29 | denials | http://evergreen-ils.org/documentation/install/OpenSRF/README_2_1_0.html is up, as are the opensrf_2_1_0-rc1.tar.gz* files |
| # | 17:08:02 | denials | http://evergreen-ils.org/downloads/previews/opensrf-2.1.0-rc1.tar.gz.md5 and http://evergreen-ils.org/downloads/previews/opensrf-2.1.0-rc1.tar.gz |
| # | 17:21:47 | tsbere | denials: At this point I am flagging further transifex digging for "after GSoC proposals close, provided we get none for i18n". If I can get transifex working, however, I suspect that *I* will, by default, become the translation manager until such point as someone else steps up. ;) |
| # | 17:24:29 | denials kind of wishes someone else would step up, to grow the community and avoid centralizing too much responsibility on one person - but working solutions to bottlenecks win :) |
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| # | 17:25:17 | tsbere is doing similar things for whether or not he plays with Android development by building something for Evergreen....but delaying that a little more than just till Friday afternoon.....To, say, after some reviewing of GSoC proposals has happened to see if we are even considering any of the Android ones |
| # | 17:27:34 | denials heads home |
| # | 17:27:50 | tsbere | denials: Maybe if I document it *really* well and make it *really* easy someone will step up ;) |
| # | 17:27:52 | tsbere can hope |
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| # | 22:31:02 | Sidharth | hi |
| # | 22:31:06 | Sidharth | anybody online |
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