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| # | 00:27:25 | enhancin | I'm hoping someone has an idea on how to check on a postgresql import command. I can see it in the process list, but I'm trying to see how many lines it's processed if it's possible |
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| # | 09:26:48 | denials | berick: if'n you want lsof from 3 simultaneous 100% apache processes, I think I captured it this AM; haven't looked into it yet |
| # | 09:27:41 | berick | denials++ |
| # | 09:28:08 | berick | denials: did you happen to capture any strace as well? |
| # | 09:28:27 | berick | i know it just repeats, but i'm curious about which file handle it's looping on |
| # | 09:28:28 | denials | berick: sigh, no. I thought last time you said you were especially interested in lsof |
| # | 09:28:37 | berick | i am, and still am |
| # | 09:28:56 | berick wants it all mauaahahah |
| # | 09:28:59 | denials | "luckily" we've been running into this fine condition every other day |
| # | 09:29:04 | denials | (roughly) |
| # | 09:29:06 | berick | guh |
| # | 09:29:56 | berick | i'm thinking the problem is on the perl side now and not the C, which I had been assuming. |
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| # | 09:30:34 | berick | denials: one more thing that would be helpful, grepping for the apache pid in osrfsys log, since most of the perl logs go there |
| # | 09:38:16 | denials | berick: the apache PIDs don't show up in osrfsys.*.log, only in gateway.*.log |
| # | 09:38:51 | berick | denials: k |
| # | 09:39:19 | berick is also curious about the gateway log entries if you're free to share them |
| # | 09:41:28 | denials | berick: http://pastebin.ca/2114477 |
| # | 09:41:36 | denials | an example for one of the PIDs |
| # | 09:42:54 | denials | (our crappy monitoring software tells me that system load at that point is 894, with 434 processes. nice) |
| # | 09:43:14 | berick | hah |
| # | 09:45:54 | berick | denials: interesting that the process has 2 jabber connections on the private domain. i would expect the C libs to connect to the public domain (via <gateway> config in opensr_core.xml). is that intentional? |
| # | 09:46:11 | berick | note, i don't think that's causing problems, just curious |
| # | 09:48:54 | denials | berick: It is interesting, I guess, because we specify <domain>public.opensrf.conifer</domain> in the <gateway> stanza in opensrf_core.xml |
| # | 09:50:14 | berick | denials: huh. are your public and private domains configured w/ the same IP? could just be a dns oddity |
| # | 09:50:22 | berick | in the strace output |
| # | 09:50:38 | denials checks the routers config |
| # | 09:50:51 | denials | s/strace/lsof |
| # | 09:51:03 | berick | yah |
| # | 09:52:10 | denials | yep, private & public have the same IP address |
| # | 09:53:39 | berick | k |
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| # | 11:16:13 | Dyrcona | whee! fun with proxies. |
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| # | 12:02:47 | tsbere | berick: I am hopeful that you will add a "sample staff members" sql file at some point too ;) |
| # | 12:03:20 | berick | tsbere: yep, that'll come next |
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| # | 12:47:40 | denials | gmcharlt et al: GSoC deadline is 2012-02-27 - are we gunning for it again? |
| # | 12:55:08 | denials | For GSoC, we would need willing & capable mentors first and foremost; if we have those, then we also need to collaborate on putting the application together. |
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| # | 12:55:17 | gmcharlt | denials: I don't have bandwidth this year to mentor, but I'm available to admin |
| # | 12:56:35 | denials | My bandwidth is low, but I would still like to mentor again (applying lessons learned from last year). I would say that we would need at least one more full mentor and one "willing to be backup" mentor for a credible application. |
| # | 12:57:08 | gmcharlt | agreed |
| # | 12:57:09 | tsbere would be willing to mentor if anyone trusts him to mentor ;) |
| # | 12:57:39 | gmcharlt | I'll raise the question inside ESI (assuming my colleagues don't immediate jump in to offer themselves ;) ) |
| # | 12:59:17 | denials | tsbere: I think you could be a great mentor |
| # | 13:01:48 | tsbere | denials / gmcharlt : Feel free to put me down as a potential mentor, then. Nobody here has objected to it ;) |
| # | 13:02:36 | mrpeters-isl probably isn't experienced to mentor someone, but if there is something else i can do to help? |
| # | 13:03:24 | gmcharlt | mrpeters-isl: being part of a pool of people who commit a little time to help out with newbie orientation would be useful |
| # | 13:03:43 | denials | mrpeters-isl: and shorter term, maybe comb through http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=dev:summer_of_coding_ideas ? |
| # | 13:03:44 | mrpeters-isl | yeah, i can help with installing Evergreen, etc. |
| # | 13:04:19 | mrpeters-isl | and especially create a newer developer image |
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| # | 13:13:11 | gmcharlt | tsbere: consider yourself listed ;) |
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| # | 13:23:41 | tsbere | berick: I have strace and lsof output from an open-ils.search listener that was consuming 100% CPU and had vanished from the router. You interested in any of that? |
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| # | 13:26:51 | berick | tsbere: hmm that's new... can't look now, but, yeah, i'm interested. |
| # | 13:31:06 | mrpeters-isl | gmcharlt: our cataloging problems are back :( |
| # | 13:35:22 | csharp | would these opensrf problems be present in 2.1.1? we've had some system "fragility" where a service appears to drop off the opensrf network |
| # | 13:35:42 | mrpeters-isl | thats what we seem to be dealing with, csharp |
| # | 13:35:52 | tsbere | I have seen this happen in three ways so far |
| # | 13:35:55 | mrpeters-isl | the cat service seems to lose a listner or something |
| # | 13:35:59 | tsbere | one is "the service actually died" |
| # | 13:36:25 | tsbere | one is "the service has been handed one really really really big request and is fighting to choke it down, and thus not responding to others right now" |
| # | 13:36:39 | csharp | mrpeters-isl: very interesting |
| # | 13:36:43 | tsbere | and the last is "the service got stuck in a loop and is no longer responding, and was rightfully removed from the list" |
| # | 13:37:36 | mrpeters-isl | heh, not interesting....annoying |
| # | 13:37:47 | mrpeters-isl | almost every day our catalogers are about to kill me |
| # | 13:38:27 | tsbere | mrpeters-isl / csharp: Your libraries do a lot of bucket deletes? |
| # | 13:38:33 | csharp | huh - ours is not service-specific |
| # | 13:38:33 | mrpeters-isl | i dont know |
| # | 13:38:39 | csharp | tsbere: I don't know either |
| # | 13:38:44 | csharp | I can ask |
| # | 13:39:04 | csharp | (on Monday, that is) |
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| # | 14:41:27 | bshum | Bucket deletes ugh. |
| # | 14:41:38 | bshum | I think folks use those to control copies for sure. |
| # | 14:44:36 | Dyrcona | bshum: I have written a program to delete from copy buckets en masse. |
| # | 14:44:46 | Dyrcona was just "perfecting" it, in fact. |
| # | 14:44:58 | bshum | Dyrcona: I've had to deal with certain things occasionally. |
| # | 14:45:10 | bshum | My favorite was the lib that put over 1500 items in a copy bucket |
| # | 14:45:17 | bshum | To try and move them into new copy locations. |
| # | 14:45:17 | Dyrcona | bshum; we should start working on our presentation, soon. |
| # | 14:45:27 | bshum | I'm pretty sure they killed one of our bricks trying to do so. |
| # | 14:45:30 | Dyrcona | yep. copy locations are fun. |
| # | 14:45:57 | bshum | I can't even imagine how they even loaded every copy manually into a bucket like that. |
| # | 14:46:04 | bshum | But anyways. |
| # | 14:46:25 | tsbere | bshum: We have a couple of DB functions I wrote to make moving things into copy locations easy. They use a required stat cat we have, though, so aren't generally useful. |
| # | 14:46:47 | tsbere | But if you want to see them I am willing to share ;) |
| # | 14:47:08 | bshum | Dyrcona: Yeah we should work on that… later this month? (or you know, we're present on Friday, so there's always Wed/Thurs night ;)) |
| # | 14:47:26 | Dyrcona | yeah, nothing like procrastination! |
| # | 14:47:48 | tsbere has to get going on some of that too so he has something to have gmcharlt look over ;) |
| # | 14:47:50 | bshum | It's not procrastination, it's… keeping it fresh :P |
| # | 14:48:08 | Dyrcona | bshum: true. everything is changing in master. |
| # | 14:48:24 | tsbere | bshum: Well, with my plans to blow away and rewrite a good portion of the circ and hold rules system waiting may be a good thing ;) |
| # | 14:49:48 | bshum | Oh well, lunchtime! |
| # | 14:49:54 | bshum | Catch you guys later. |
| # | 14:49:56 | Dyrcona | bshum; enjoy! |
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| # | 15:01:22 | gmcharlt | tsbere++ |
| # | 15:40:15 | shopkins | hi, I'm having some problems with Content Cafe only displaying jackets on one of the bricks, I can't figure out why the rest don't work, I copy most all of the files from one brick to the other. Any ideas |
| # | 15:41:45 | tsbere | shopkins: Check that all bricks can see memcache and such, that they can all see the outside world, and that their configs all agree on what they are doing for added content? |
| # | 15:43:06 | shopkins | ok |
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| # | 16:10:32 | hopkinsju | Who should I talk to about usage of the Evergreen logo? |
| # | 16:11:32 | tsbere | Oooh |
| # | 16:11:37 | tsbere | That is a good question |
| # | 16:11:38 | hopkinsju | My understanding is that because the software freedom conservancy took on EG, they are wanting folks to get permission to use it. |
| # | 16:12:00 | tsbere | With time of day and events and such that may be a mailing list question, though |
| # | 16:12:25 | hopkinsju | We're in the process of developing branding for the Missouri Evergreen consortium. tsbere: I might ask there ;) |
| # | 16:14:54 | tsbere | hopkinsju: Feel free to poke around our catalog pages to see what we have done. http://www.mvlc.org/Libraries - I posted how we did it on the list at some point, am willing to re-hash it though ;) |
| # | 16:15:29 | tsbere | (and by "how we did it" I really mean "how I did it" <_<) |
| # | 16:19:58 | denials | hopkinsju / tsbere: Evergreen logo is in process of being transferred from Georgia Public Library Service to the Software Freedom Conservancy |
| # | 16:20:28 | denials | GPLS has a usage policy for the logo posted, and when the logo is transferred, the Conservancy shall post a usage policy as well |
| # | 16:22:19 | denials | Current (GPLS) logo policy: http://www.georgialibraries.org/lib/pines/evergreenlogo/ |
| # | 16:31:59 | kmlussier | hmmmm...is there any reason tpac has "If you use the Traveling Library Center (TLC) and ABC Express services, please select "Outreach" to have the item delivered during your scheduled visit." on the place holds screen? |
| # | 16:32:02 | tsbere | denials++ |
| # | 16:32:12 | tsbere | kmlussier: Because it was based on a KCLS skin |
| # | 16:32:14 | tsbere | <_< |
| # | 16:32:39 | kmlussier | Ah, ok. I thought all that KCLS stuff had been taken out. |
| # | 16:32:47 | tsbere | No, that piece remains ;) |
| # | 16:33:08 | tsbere forgets about it most of the time due to having a local customizations branch that wipes the line out |
| # | 16:33:19 | tsbere | and does a pile more, granted |
| # | 16:35:35 | denials removed everything that matched "ack KCLS" but sounds like we need to kill more KCLS heritage |
| # | 16:39:35 | kmlussier | I thought I had seen it somewhere else (notification preferences?), but I can't find it now, so maybe that's the last KCLS remnant. |
| # | 16:40:14 | tsbere | fun with commit messages: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/user/tsbere/copy_bucket_autocomplete |
| # | 16:40:17 | tsbere | kindof |
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| # | 17:10:53 | tsbere | senator: "and same some space." heh. |
| # | 17:11:10 | senator | gah |
| # | 17:11:41 | tsbere | If it weren't in the doc chunk, and was just in the commit message, I probably wouldn't have said anything. But sadly, tis in both. |
| # | 17:11:44 | senator | correction force pushed |
| # | 17:11:44 | senator | thanks |
| # | 17:11:48 | senator | (in both places) |
| # | 17:14:40 | tsbere | senator: Reminds me of this: "Me spill chucker woks grate. I needle gamma chicken." |
| # | 17:16:58 | senator | bwah. yeah. i must be in too much of a hurry this afternoon. |
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| # | 17:34:18 | enhancin | Is it possible for a patron to be in two groups at once or would that cause issues? |
| # | 17:35:30 | hopkinsju | denials: Thanks for the logo info! |
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| # | 17:42:55 | gmcharlt | enhancin: it actually is possible to assign multiple permission groups to a patron -- though that works for permissions, not circulation policy lookup |
| # | 17:43:08 | enhancin | the permissions is what i'm after : ) |
| # | 17:43:11 | gmcharlt | however, there currently isn't any UI to do it |
| # | 17:43:21 | enhancin | i can do it in the db |
| # | 17:43:28 | enhancin | I just wanted to make sure it wouldn't explode. |
| # | 17:43:33 | gmcharlt | enhancin: permission.usr_grp_map is what you want |
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| # | 17:53:41 | vxbush | Anybody up for one last question today? |
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April 10-13