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#evergreen Logs for Thursday, August 25th, 2011

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#07:45:37tsbereeeevil--
#07:46:21tsbere dislikes trying to figure out what he broke in the login window, only to find out that the error is an apparently untested commit of someone else's work :(
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#08:58:04tsbere@later tell eeevil Care to look at this? http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/user/tsbere/fix_offline_pending - I dislike getting alert error messages when I have offline pending and decide to open the staff client. :(
#08:58:04pinesol_greentsbere: The operation succeeded.
#08:59:28eeeviltsbere: if it makes your SC happy, will commit now
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#09:04:20tsbere@later tell jeff This is what I thought of last night for multiple workstations per server: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/833753
#09:04:20pinesol_greentsbere: The operation succeeded.
#09:05:34jeff waves
#09:06:10shadowsparhas anyone else run into the situation where, while installing 2.0.8, running the eg_db_config.pl doesn't actually give you an admin user
#09:06:14shadowspar?
#09:06:28tsbereshadowspar: Side effect of a known bug
#09:06:43tsbereYou will want to run 2.0.9 whenever it is announced (don't think I saw it on the lists or anything yet)
#09:06:57gmcharltit is, however, available for download now
#09:07:03shadowspartsbere++
#09:07:12tsbere doesn't know if the download links are up yet either
#09:07:17csharpit was announced on the evergreen blog, but not the lists yet
#09:07:23gmcharlt just looked, yes, they are up
#09:07:26csharp even saw it on Facebook
#09:07:40shadowspar=)
#09:15:36jeffpdfcreator + autosave + open after saving == handy way to do light testing of printing
#09:15:44tsbereeeevil: For a minute there I saw SC and thought "Selfcheck" instead of "Staff Client" <_<
#09:16:00jeff hands tsbere an ACS
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#09:16:33jeff(doesn't test the receipt printing functionality exactly, but saves a lot of paper if your focus is away from the physical printer)
#09:18:38tsbereClose enough, I think
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#09:37:48tsbereShould the Apply Standing Penalty/Message box be providing a list of possible standing penalties beyond the note/alert/block buttons?
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#09:55:04wolf29good morning!
#09:57:56wolf29is it going to cause major issues if an evergreen client cannot connect using ssl
#09:57:58wolf29?
#09:58:05jeffwolf29: yes.
#09:58:17wolf29Hi Jeff
#09:58:49wolf29When I comment out line 120 in ejabberd.cfg that starts the ttl, ejabber starts
#09:59:03tsbereThat is a different problem
#09:59:08wolf29otherwise, "it says not running in that node"
#09:59:40wolf29This makes it impossible to listen on a port for ssl connections
#09:59:42phasefxtsbere++ re: workstations
#10:00:10jeffwolf29: keep in mind that the staff client talks to apache over ssl, the staff client never talks to the xmpp/ejabberd server directly.
#10:00:23tsberephasefx: How goes the sort/include macro review? ;)
#10:00:42phasefxtsbere: sorry man, been sick
#10:01:03wolf29so it "should" work, even without the ejabberd starttls line in
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#10:01:25phasefxtsbere: re: standing penalties, it should list custom defined penalties (with id>100 or so)
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#10:02:27wolf29oops. Is there a staffclient for linux?
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#10:02:53tsberephasefx: Ahhh. Haven't tried adding a custom. Saw that there is a default "block circ and renew but not holds" one that we have a library potentially wanting to use
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#10:08:08wolf29is there source code for the staffclient 2.0.8? I want to bring it up on a linux box
#10:09:57tsberewolf29: Install xulrunner (1.9/3.x) and run it against the staff client's build folder (in particular, the application.ini in it)
#10:11:51phasefxvery important to run it against build/application.ini and not application.ini
#10:14:54tsbere prepares for a meeting
#10:26:34wolf29is git clone http://git.evergreen-ils.org/ the right address to get the evergreen source?
#10:28:17wolf29never mind. I found it. :-)
#10:29:09phasefxwolf29: if you're still wanting to just build the client, you can do it quick from the tarball (or from git) using commands listed on this page: http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=scratchpad:packaging_the_staff_client_for_windows You'd just skip the make winclient part
#10:31:44wolf29Thanks phasefx
#10:34:25bshumcsharp: If memory serves, kmlussier helped us to link the Facebook page with the Evergreen blog. So when moodaepo wrote the blog post about 2.0.9, it eventually made its way there.
#10:35:46bshumSpeaking of 2.0.9, can a member of the LP release team mark 2.0.9 as released and if needed create the next milestone of 2.0.10?
#10:39:42moodaepo will dash out an announce on the lists
#10:39:59gmcharltbshum: done
#10:40:17bshumgmcharlt: Thanks!
#11:09:02wolf29"cp: cannot stat '/openils/lib//javascript/*.js" would mean I have to add the core section to build the staff-client?
#11:13:00wolf29or does it mean I have to install opensrf?
#11:16:47dbswolf29: I think you'll need the javascript bits from OpenSRF, yes
#11:17:04wolf29thanks, dbs
#11:21:01dbswolf29: something like "./configure --disable-core --enable-javascript" might work for a minimalist install
#11:22:16wolf29dbs - I did that, but it failed for opensrf pieces being missing. It is funny that I am doing all of this because ejabberd cannot read line 120 and will not see the cert file
#11:23:04dbsyou did that for opensrf?
#11:23:30wolf29I cloned a server that worked, but the ejabberd has been spitting up for hours
#11:24:11wolf29that clone has no public IP so I have to try the staffclient from an internal box.
#11:24:36wolf29The internal vmware boxes are all linux boxes
#11:24:39dbsIf ejabberd is broken, why would building a staff client help you?
#11:25:02dbs notes that ./configure --disable-core --enable-javascript is quite broken
#11:25:14dbs"configure: error: conditional "CHECK_TESTS" was never defined"
#11:25:26dbsle sigh
#11:25:38wolf29I am testing whether opensrf will allow the staffclient to connect even if the starttsl line is commented out
#11:26:25wolf29all of the reasonable solutions for getting the ejabberd cert reset seem to fail
#11:26:56wolf29I have been enjoying ejabberd zap - it gives pretty good error messages.
#11:26:57tsbereAnyone have thoughts on adding "Date: [% date.format(format => '%a, %d %b %Y %H:%M:%S %z') %]" to the default email headers in A/T?
#11:27:42phasefxwolf29: it's apache that's going to control whether the staff client can connect or not. I don't think anyone is using encryption at the jabber level
#11:28:23wolf29that is why i have to test a staffclient
#11:29:13wolf29circular stuff - this troubleshooting. :-)
#11:29:31phasefxI'll stay happily confuzzled for a while :)
#11:30:39wolf29I want a 20-step process for provisioning a cloned VM. In the end, it should make everything faster (I surmise)
#11:31:17wolf29I have been stuck on step 18 for a while.
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#11:47:48wolf29I found the error! on line 119 there was a comma missing at the end.
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#11:53:49phasefxrandom: useful page for pretty printing JSON you need to dig through for whatever reason: http://jsonformatter.curiousconcept.com/#jsonformatter
#11:57:06wolf29%i Wolf29 is going to lunch
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#12:00:31dbsphasefx: or pipe to json_xs on most evergreen machines
#12:04:20csharpphasefx: very nice for viewing things like receipt templates in the staff client - thanks
#12:04:36phasefxsweet <tries that> had problems finding a pretty printer that was actually sane (lined things up properly)
#12:05:17csharp has had to troll through the wall of text - or use vim to manually prettify
#12:05:52phasefx has to learn the pipe-filter command thingy for vim.. will feed it json_xs pretty often
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#12:08:16phasefxso hilight the json in vim, then :!json_xs
#12:11:15tsbereor :%!json_xs
#12:11:20tsbereIf the entire file is json
#12:11:33_bott_If there's eeevil in the house... The updates you provided yesterday populated the hstore authorsort and titlesort attrs, but still no luck with result sorting.
#12:13:38eeevil_bott_: next suspect: the values in the sorting dropdown. they need to change from "author" to "authorsort" (etc) ... if you're dealing with your custom skin, that is
#12:14:03eeevilif you're working in the default skin, and it's the 2.1+ version, that should already be the case
#12:21:02_bott_eeevil: I thought about that, but forgot to try a change! The comment at the top of the query notes (title) or (author)!
#12:24:17_bott_ahh, sortage in the default skin, off to do some changin'
#12:24:23_bott_eeevil: ++ again
#12:26:10tsbere is really disliking the hundreds of holds that have no capture time or current copy but have a shelf time he is seeing
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#12:36:50bericktsbere: hmm, there was a window of time when resetting a hold would leave the original shelf-time intact. a8fcc2e1f7939252468fe6e6c3d882152c085fb1
#12:38:27tsbereberick: That seems to be "uncancel" related. This is, I think, "forcibly checked out to wrong patron" related.
#12:39:57berickyeah, sorry, s/reset/uncancel/
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#12:40:37phasefxhundreds of uncanceled holds still sounds like a lot
#12:41:59tsbereI don't think canceled holds are a factor here. This is born from "patron shows up with email printout saying hold is available and it no longer appears to have ever been captured"
#12:46:51_bott_eeevil: would you like me to submit anything regarding those updates, or do you already have a note to get it into the 2.0-2.1 upgrade script?
#12:49:02eeevil_bott_: a bug would be great. you can even assign it to me! :)
#12:57:19_bott_eeevil: bug submitted, but I do not have rights to assign
#12:57:54eeevil goes to look
#12:58:32eeevil_bott_: I assigned me. thanks!
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#13:04:42tsbereberick / phasefx : Looks like shelf time and shelf expire time are not cleared on a force checkout of a hold to the wrong patron. But current copy, capture time, and previous check time all are.
#13:09:05bericktsbere: ah, indeed. trivial enough to fix, i suppose. though, w/ a little refactoring, it could call Holds.pm::_reset_hold directly, which would cut down on this kind of thing in the future
#13:12:22tsbereberick: I kindof like being able to tell at a glance that a hold made it to the hold shelf but was forcibly checked out to someone else. <_<
#13:16:57berickyeah, i can see that
#13:17:20berickthat's possible with hold audit tables if you happen to be doing that..
#13:23:23berickif we want to track "forcibly checked out to someone else" for real, i'd prefer to track it explicitly and not by leaving shelf [expire] time intact
#13:23:29berick(perhaps even w/ a counter)
#13:24:06bericki'd be surprised if there wasn't some code somewhere that equated shelf_expire_time!=null as 'on holds shelf'
#13:33:01tsbereberick: I fully understand properly resetting holds. I just like being able to tell that someone did something they shouldn't have at a glance ;)
#13:33:22tsbereAKA, don't let what I like stop you from writing up a proper fix for the issue
#13:35:20bericktsbere: cool
#13:35:36berickwe could create an A/T hook for hold_request.checked_out_from_shelf
#13:35:48tsbereberick: Also, being able to see what happened due to a bug isn't something I should expect to last ;)
#13:36:02berickyou could wire that up via asterisk to the libary intercom ;)
#13:36:58tsbereCreating such a hook might be nice from a "send the patron an email" standpoint. With language saying "A library staff member has decided to check the hold below out to another patron. You have been returned to the queue in your previous position." Then let the staff answer the complaints ;)
#13:37:28berickexactly...
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#13:38:32bericktsbere: anyway, thanks for tracking that down. i'll push an LP ticket w/ patch shortly
#13:38:58tsberen/p on the tracking it down. Was doing that to answer our internal tickets anyway.
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#14:07:33moodaepoCouple of questions about TT opac - could someone clarify this step http://www.evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=dev:opac:template-toolkit#staff_client_integration
#14:08:37moodaepoSecond I am following the steps to customize but the changes don't seem to apply - http://www.evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=dev:opac:template-toolkit#customizing
#14:10:05berickmoodaepo: the first step tells the staff client to use the t-pac as embedded catalog via local custom.js file
#14:10:19berickis it just not working?
#14:10:38moodaepoberick: Where do I run the command though on the server?
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#14:11:02berickthe echo command? you can run it anywhere as opensrf. it just pipes some text into a file
#14:11:39moodaepoAh I didn't read them through do'h
#14:11:53berickmoodaepo: basically you want this http://dev198.esilibrary.com/xul/server/skin/custom.js
#14:13:31moodaepoberick: Cool..ok as for customizing I've created /openils/var/mytemplates
#14:14:30moodaepo thinks he founf the customization problem...typo
#14:14:34moodaepo*found
#14:15:21bericktypos begat typos, it is written
#14:15:50moodaepoberick++
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#14:29:46_bott_Spine label printing in 2.1... we're using old dot-matrix tractor feed labels and DOS/LPT printing. 2.1 reports that receipt.bat is not a valid Win32 app, and it's only an empty file. Sound familiar to anyone?
#14:37:53phasefxyes
#14:38:07phasefx_bott_: windows vista or win7?
#14:38:23phasefxmay need to disable that UAC thing
#14:38:25_bott_XP
#14:38:28phasefxoh
#14:38:33phasefx:-/
#14:38:57phasefxempty file, maybe some sort of write perm
#14:39:53phasefxmay be able to use the custom print strategy instead.. point to notepad -print or something
#14:40:37phasefxthough come to think of it, that works the same way as receipt.bat
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#14:41:19_bott_hmm... shouldn't be perms, testing logged in as administrator
#14:44:17_bott_I do have a big nasty error in the JS console, let me grab that
#14:46:28_bott_where did it go?
#14:46:58phasefxjavascript console has a limited buffer, so warnings can push out errors if enough of them occur
#14:49:48_bott_http://pastebin.ca/2078394
#14:50:10_bott_paste.lisp.org doesn't like me today
#14:50:44phasefxAn attempt to launch or execute a file failed because the file is not executable. nsIFile.isExecutable() may be used to check if a file is executable.
#14:51:30phasefxI think some security mechanism is preventing xulrunner from creating an executable file and running it in this case
#14:55:28_bott_off to a meeting. Back to battling legacy equipment later!
#14:55:56phasefxmaybe check Software Restriction Policies
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#15:43:06dbs is sorry to see mr. t at http://dev198.esilibrary.com/eg/opac/home
#15:44:23moodaepoesi++
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#15:46:10moodaepo"MARC Batch Import/Export does not load using TT opac" - http://paste.lisp.org/display/124267
#15:48:56dbsmoodaepo: looks like an opportunity for you to move the old XMLENT approach to i18n over to the much cleaner TT approach
#15:50:38moodaepo goes to look at the XMLENT approach and will probably get lost
#15:50:39dbsfor entity in xml_file: replace entity with "[% l('" + en-US['entity'] + ") %]"
#15:50:47dbs(roughly)
#15:50:55berickhuh
#15:51:08berickthe entities should work
#15:51:28dbs would welcome the death of XMLENT
#15:51:41berickmoodaepo: does your oils_web.xml have a line like this:
#15:51:42berick <handler path='vandelay/vandelay' template='vandelay/vandelay.tt2' as_xml='true'/>
#15:51:47bericknote the as_xml=
#15:52:54moodaepoberick: Yup it's the last entry under <handlers>
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#15:57:36berick realized after asking that question the answer had to be yes..
#15:57:42berickmoodaepo: and /openils/var/web/opac/locale/en-US/vandelay.dtd is there?
#15:57:53berickand those entities are defined therein?
#15:59:00moodaepoberick: Yup I was just looking through that file...and those entities are not there.
#15:59:01berickthe entities it's complaining about all look like newly added entities..
#15:59:18berickhuh
#16:01:42dbsmagical
#16:02:14moodaepoI'm copying the new vandaley.dtd over
#16:03:57moodaepoThere we go now the page loads...testing a march import
#16:04:05moodaepo*marc
#16:05:28berickcool
#16:09:49dbsdamn.
#16:10:18dbs would still like to see someone (else) tackle the XMLENT -> TT i18n replacement project
#16:11:14moodaepoOk batch load works but the tab loads with export, import, inspect, and the 3 edit "sub" tabs open as one long list. i.e. there are no sub-tabs
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#16:11:59moodaepotab loads = initial batch import/export tab
#16:13:09moodaepodbs: Is it basically going through each of the dtd files and replacing the entities?
#16:13:47berickdbs: fwiw, none of the template toolkit files use XMLENT
#16:14:19berickthe TT mod_perl has an as_xml mode that just shoves the content through XML::LibXML to do the entity replacement
#16:14:30dbsberick: phew!
#16:14:38berickas a stop-gap for replacing entities w/ l('foo')
#16:14:44dbsstill, would be far better to move to TT-style i18n
#16:14:53berickagreed
#16:15:12dbsmoodaepo: yeah, changing <td>&some.entity;</td> to <td>[% l('English text that &some.entity; maps to') %]</td>
#16:20:11eeevilif only we had some language, which at it's core had strong regexps, and was practical for extraction and perhaps reporting ...
#16:20:25eeevil ducks
#16:21:13berickhaha
#16:21:15dbsPYTHON!
#16:21:18eeevillaterz, all
#16:21:31dbseeevil: was already thinking that, naturally
#16:21:50dbsbye
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#16:30:47_bott_if someone has a 2.1 fieldmapper moment... I came across: <link field="normalizers" reltype="has_many" key="name" map="" class="crainm"/> But "crainm" doesn't seem to have a key="name".
#16:36:07moodaepoberick: Any thoughts on why the batch import/export page is listing all the sub sections/tabs on one long page?
#16:36:46berickmoodaepo: javascript errors?
#16:39:48dbs_bott_: class id="crainm" ?
#16:40:02dbsaka config.record_attr_index_norm_map?
#16:40:53dbs_bott_: appears to be in origin/rel_2_1 and master
#16:41:18dbsor... perhaps I'm misunderstanding
#16:41:24dbs reads and focuses
#16:42:48moodaepoberick: I see an uncaught exception when that tab loads - http://paste.lisp.org/display/124267#1
#16:43:40berickmoodaepo: arg, that's one of those "oh noes, something's busted" JS errors. you'll have to find the real error in osrf log
#16:43:57berickthere should be some ERR's logged around the same time
#16:44:28berick has a feeling if the DTD was wrong, other stuff was not installed correctly
#16:44:46berickthis reeks of either IDL or DB wrong-ness
#16:45:19berickbrb
#16:45:55moodaepoargh
#16:46:34dbs_bott_: ah, I see. key="norm" typo perhaps?
#16:46:41moodaepo apologies for opening up a possibly unnecessary can of worms
#16:47:03moodaepo*apologizes
#16:47:27_bott_dbs: that's what I was thinking
#16:47:47dbsalthough attr makes more sense
#16:48:06dbsgah. my brain is dead
#16:48:07_bott_something that exists, for certain
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#17:35:03conlinhello
#17:37:00bshumconlin: Greetings!
#17:37:54conlinIm looking for a way to pull newly added books from the evergreen system. either web interface or staff client
#17:37:57conlinAny ideas?
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#17:40:56bshumconlin: Hmm, what do you mean when you say you want to "pull" them?
#17:41:05bshumLike extract in some particular form
#17:41:12bshumOr search for / view
#17:41:55dbsconlin: freshmeat feed
#17:42:00jamesrfconlin: you can use supercat feeds for that http://dev.gapines.org/opac/extras/feed/freshmeat/rss2/biblio/import/
#17:43:07jamesrfhttp://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=backend-devel:supercat:examples#return_a_feed_of_recently_edited_or_created_records
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#17:49:22brian_fI've got an install question-- fresh 2.0.9 Evergreen on debian squeeze
#17:50:51brian_fIn trying to run autogen.sh, I'm getting Session Error router@private.localhost/open-ils.cstore IS NOT CONNECTED TO THE NETWORK!!!
#17:51:26brian_fpasswords appear to be correct
#17:53:13brian_fosrfsys.log shows errors in oils_sql.c, and other oils_*.c units stating "No results found for any class -- bad database connection?"
#17:54:43brian_fAnd settings-tester.pl results all seem fine. Any ideas where I should look?
#18:05:15dbwellsbrian_f: I am just on my way out the door, but perhaps you have some errant processes? Try doing a 'stop_all' and see if any "OpenSRF" processes are still running. If they are, kill them.
#18:05:57brian_fdbwells: thanks for the suggestion. I'll give that a try now
#18:09:33conlinOk thanks. Sorry I got distracted
#18:09:39conlinand ya pull into a feeed
#18:10:26brian_fdbwells: thanks. stop_all closed it down cleanly, and it started up okay. I think what I really needed was to kick apache2-- a restart there got everything rolling smoothly!
#18:18:40conlindo you know if there is a way to use that feed for a specific branch?
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#18:34:42conlinAnyone around?
#18:36:27moodaepoconlin: Folks might be back later..this channel is populated mostly by north american east coast dwellers so they are probably getting home and running from hurricanes right now.
#18:36:40conlinhaha ok sounds good
#18:36:42conlinthanks
#18:37:09brian_fI am, but I'm afraid I'm not familar with supercat
#18:38:29conlinok thanks anyway
#18:42:25moodaepoconlin: As for pulling by branch I don't think freshmeat can do that...there is another option you could try - http://www.branchdistrictlibrary.org/professional/mieg_new_items.php
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#19:22:31_bott_phasefx: my printing issue was that 'cmd' was ending up empty, so receipt.bat was ending up exactly as requested, but a blank file won't execute (who knew?)
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#19:46:13phasefx_bott_: ah, that was happening with LPT1/DOS strategy or custom?
#20:02:11_bott_phasefx: LPT1/DOS
#20:02:56jamesrfconlin: try this one (substitute BW for the shortname and catalogue.bclibraries.ca for your server and html for marcxml, rss2, etc.): http://catalogue.bclibraries.ca/opac/extras/browse/html/item-age/BW/
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#20:34:26phasefx_bott_: did you figure out how to fix it? (I have no clue, so am curious)
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