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| # | 08:29:18 | mrpeters-isl | morning all -- I'm having some trouble debugging survey editor interface. I can create/edit/delete/admin survey with all users in Administrator group, however, I cannot add questions/answers. The interface just seems to die when it tries to load anything after "Questions & Answers". Doesn't appear to be permissions related, since a user with "EVERYTHING" permission also cannot add Questions |
| # | 08:29:18 | mrpeters-isl | & Answers. Any thoughts? |
| # | 08:30:07 | tsbere | I recall having issues like that |
| # | 08:31:11 | tsbere | Hmmm. My dev box is borked. |
| # | 08:31:24 | tsbere initiates a full reinstall of evergreen with a pre-rigged alias |
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| # | 08:32:43 | tsbere | mrpeters-isl: Gimme a min or two, I apparently can't use my dev box due to borked master. :( |
| # | 08:33:14 | mrpeters-isl | At some point while we were on 1.6 users were able to add questions, because there are a few in there from 2010. Looking back through commits on "survey" but not seeing much that'd apply to > 1.6. |
| # | 08:33:18 | mrpeters-isl | yeah, no worries tsbere |
| # | 08:35:16 | tsbere | mrpeters-isl: I can only add questions/answers if the survey starts *in the future*. |
| # | 08:35:27 | mrpeters-isl | aha! |
| # | 08:35:28 | tsbere | If the survey starts, say, today I can't add questions/answers |
| # | 08:36:27 | mrpeters-isl | that did the trick |
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| # | 08:46:00 | tsbere | eeevil: You around? |
| # | 08:46:34 | csharp | okay - back to the reporter setup (reporter process running on DB server, but needing to connect to a server with opensrf running) |
| # | 08:47:18 | csharp | I've scoured opensrf.xml and opensrf_core.xml on the reporter/DB server and do not see where the server would be told to use another server's opensrf |
| # | 08:47:40 | csharp | I can't find this on my production example either |
| # | 08:47:42 | tsbere | csharp: You just need it to use the same jabber server. |
| # | 08:48:21 | csharp tries to process that suggestion... |
| # | 08:48:32 | tsbere | That may require (depending on your setup) a change to your hosts file to point public.localhost and private.localhost to the network IP of the server you want it to talk to |
| # | 08:49:09 | csharp | ah... |
| # | 08:50:17 | tsbere | @later tell eeevil http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=6343d40803699e3d287ba8adec979dd99c4687ef seems to say authority merge broke master's DB scripts. Specifically the second added line in 011.schema.authority.sql has an extra comma on the end. |
| # | 08:50:17 | pinesol_green | tsbere: The operation succeeded. |
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| # | 08:53:29 | csharp | tsbere++ # that did it! |
| # | 08:54:00 | mrpeters-isl | 'cookieManager' is undefined with IE on rresult.js is pretty indicative of the user being behind some kind of filter, or pretty restrictive cookies settings yeah? |
| # | 08:54:47 | csharp | the hosts file was not correct anyway, but adding the entry for the brick I was connecting to (along with the opensrf_core.xml and opensrf.xml that I copied from the brick) worked to get the reporter process going |
| # | 08:56:19 | csharp was thinking that the configuration was at the EG level, not at the OS level |
| # | 08:57:10 | tsbere | Well, some of us decided to use actual DNS names for our public/private and thus don't have to play with hosts at all ;) |
| # | 08:57:42 | csharp | one more question... our prod reporter server runs clark_kent.pl as root - any reasons why it would be root vs. opensrf? |
| # | 08:58:07 | tsbere | Permissions issues with network shared locations is about all I can think of |
| # | 08:58:18 | csharp | tsbere: I bet that's it |
| # | 09:04:09 | csharp | is there a nicer way to stop clark than killing it and removing the lock? |
| # | 09:05:34 | tsbere | Did you try kill without -9? |
| # | 09:05:48 | Dyrcona | csharp: writing a script to kill it and remove the lock for you? |
| # | 09:06:14 | csharp | yeah - I found the process, killed it (no -9) and removed the lockfile |
| # | 09:06:20 | csharp | Dyrcona: understood ;-) |
| # | 09:06:20 | Dyrcona | csharp: may i suggest naming it kryptonite? or jimmy_olsen? |
| # | 09:06:33 | csharp | heh |
| # | 09:06:52 | csharp | didn't Batman kill Superman at one point? (may have that turned around) |
| # | 09:07:00 | Dyrcona fires up his Spin Doctors mp3s. The first track is Jimmy Olsen's Blues. |
| # | 09:07:20 | mrpeters-isl | updating "source" on a bunch of biblio.record_entry rows, dies out with "ERROR: error from Perl function "maintain_control_numbers": Wide character in subroutine entry at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/MARC/Charset/Table.pm line 96". Any thoughts on what this is dying on? |
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| # | 09:07:53 | Dyrcona | mrpeters-isl: old version of MARC::File::XML/MARC::Record? |
| # | 09:08:17 | Dyrcona | mrpeters-isl: record are UTF-8 but the LDR doesn't reflect that? |
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| # | 09:08:47 | mrpeters-isl | totally possible |
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| # | 09:10:15 | csharp seeks clark_kent.pl invocation examples |
| # | 09:10:20 | mrpeters-isl | MARC-XML-0.93 latest? |
| # | 09:10:55 | csharp | ah - on the install page! |
| # | 09:11:05 | csharp | helps to read the friendly manual |
| # | 09:16:46 | Dyrcona | starting and stopping clark_kent is something that could be added to oils_ctl-improvements branch. |
| # | 09:17:11 | Dyrcona doesn't think that has gone into master, yet. |
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| # | 09:17:54 | csharp | Dyrcona: I would think at least adding the invocation documentation to the script header would be an improvement ;-) |
| # | 09:18:04 | csharp likes inline documentation |
| # | 09:19:21 | Dyrcona believes all comments lie. |
| # | 09:20:00 | csharp | ha! |
| # | 09:23:42 | Dyrcona | The code is its own (and only) documentation. All other documentation is subject to error, omission, and prevarication. |
| # | 09:24:08 | dbs | That's true only for projects that don't really want users. |
| # | 09:24:25 | csharp | I understand from the dev perspective, but I would not want to have to decode perl just to know how to run a simple daemon script |
| # | 09:24:48 | dbs | Lots of other options out there for people to run systems with better QA, documentation, etc. |
| # | 09:27:37 | Dyrcona | dbs: In my experience that is true in all cases for both open and closed source projects. |
| # | 09:28:02 | mrpeters-isl | Dyrcona: so, FWIW same error after updating to 0.93 |
| # | 09:28:29 | Dyrcona | Having done this professionally for over 14 years, I've seen a lot of comments, documents, etc. that were just plain wrong. |
| # | 09:28:57 | Dyrcona | mrpeters-isl: check that the leader on the record that is choking has 'a' in position 9. |
| # | 09:29:08 | mrpeters-isl | well, i'm not sure how i can find out what the record is |
| # | 09:29:13 | dbs | Dyrcona: Sure. But to not even try to provide documentation is pathetic |
| # | 09:29:28 | mrpeters-isl | i just have a list of id's i'm updating "source" on |
| # | 09:29:30 | dbs | Or to argue that it's not worthwhile providing documentation |
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| # | 09:29:39 | Dyrcona | dbs: I didn't say not to try. I just said it lies. |
| # | 09:29:44 | Dyrcona | :) |
| # | 09:30:03 | Dyrcona | dbs: Me, personally, I'll believe the code and not the documentation. |
| # | 09:30:51 | Dyrcona | It also helps if people write clear, concise code. In 14 years, I've found that is also a futile battle. |
| # | 09:30:53 | dbs | Dyrcona: Fair enough. I believe that many places don't want to employ people to spend time unravelling mysteries of undocumented code and unexpected interactions. |
| # | 09:31:25 | Dyrcona | "undocumented code and unexpected interactions" is 95% of debugging. :) |
| # | 09:31:57 | dbs | Dyrcona: No shit. As I said, most places just want to run a system, they don't want to invest in intensive debugging to make the thing work. |
| # | 09:32:39 | dbs needs to put together a full-day training agenda for tomorrow a new set of libraries coming on board Conifer. Top to bottom in one day, that should be fun. In French to boot |
| # | 09:32:54 | Dyrcona | Bonne chance! :) |
| # | 09:33:42 | dbs is perhaps a bit weary of spending time debugging and handling problem reports and has an overly negative perspective this morning |
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| # | 09:41:30 | eeevil | tsbere: I'll correct the baseline schema, thanks for spotting that |
| # | 09:43:38 | tsbere | eeevil: Also, the hold targeter is broken. |
| # | 09:44:17 | eeevil | tsbere: due to authority-control-sets, or because of something you were chasing the other day? |
| # | 09:44:31 | tsbere | eeevil: I am blaming commit 20735bf13454c3d9bdcc958805228c85ec7af031 |
| # | 09:44:42 | tsbere has been fighting with this for an hour or so |
| # | 09:46:09 | eeevil | tsbere: error? because that hasn't shown a problem otherwise... |
| # | 09:46:54 | tsbere | eeevil: No error, but holds haven't targeted, *at all*, since we installed that commit. I think part_maps isn't actually defined at that point in the file UNLESS it is a type P. |
| # | 09:47:34 | tsbere doesn't believe we have many, if any, part holds in the system right now |
| # | 09:48:04 | dbs is going to sign off before losing any lingering respect he might have by going off the deepend on a testing / QA / time efficiency rant |
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| # | 09:48:41 | tsbere | eeevil: I reverted that commit and, hey, holds target again. |
| # | 09:49:16 | eeevil looks |
| # | 09:50:36 | eeevil | $_ is a CDBI object, which gets that method from OpenILS/Application/Storage/CDBI.pm via asset::copy->has_many( part_maps => 'asset::copy_part_map' ); |
| # | 09:51:27 | eeevil | tsbere: any chance you have a stale OpenILS/Application/Storage/CDBI.pm? (or related) |
| # | 09:51:38 | tsbere | Doubtful. |
| # | 09:51:43 | Dyrcona wonders if fm_IDL.xml is up to date, or what eeevil just said. |
| # | 09:54:57 | eeevil | tsbere: or that the schema changes for part holds isn't up to date? |
| # | 09:57:24 | tsbere | eeevil: Well, reverting that commit fixes targeting individual holds and non-parallel holds targeting for us for now. Beyond that, I am not sure. |
| # | 09:57:33 | eeevil | ok ... off to a meeting |
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| # | 11:51:37 | tsbere | Anyone have a block of code that would allow me to use CDBI via a standalone script? |
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| # | 12:13:10 | tsbere | eeevil: AHA! Found an error! Processing of hold failed: Not an ARRAY reference at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/OpenILS/Application/Storage/Publisher/action.pm line 1274. |
| # | 12:20:38 | tsbere has no clue how to fix it, but at least he found the error |
| # | 12:20:53 | phasefx thinks he encountered that or something like it before, and it was fixed |
| # | 12:23:35 | Dyrcona | phasefx: this has to do with checking part holds, so it is relatively new code. |
| # | 12:23:44 | phasefx | right |
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| # | 12:24:35 | tsbere | Dyrcona: phasefx signed off on the offending commit, according to git. So he has likely seen it ;) |
| # | 12:24:49 | Dyrcona | :) |
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| # | 12:25:24 | phasefx | Processing of hold failed: Not an ARRAY reference at / |
| # | 12:25:28 | phasefx | usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/OpenILS/Application/Storage/Publisher/action.pm line 1274.. yeah, same one |
| # | 12:25:57 | phasefx | tsbere: you have http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=evergreen/equinox.git;a=commit;h=e11ca376239610ced428750584f1f0196dc8bcd0 ? |
| # | 12:27:56 | phasefx | hrmm, master has that |
| # | 12:28:02 | phasefx | so something else maybe |
| # | 12:28:37 | tsbere | phasefx: Yes, I have that. For the record, line 1274 is treating a Class::DBI::Iterator or such as an array. |
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| # | 13:10:51 | jeff | is there an authoritative git repo for SIPServer? |
| # | 13:11:05 | tsbere | git.evergreen-ils.org's, I think. |
| # | 13:11:07 | tsbere | At this point |
| # | 13:13:37 | jeff | fresh clone and "diff -ur -x .git SIPServer SIPServer-mvlc" is clean. success. |
| # | 13:14:21 | jeff | (of course, mvlc has remote branches that differ) |
| # | 13:16:13 | tsbere | Being lazy, I rigged git.evergreen-ils.org to update several of MVLC's repos whenever someone commits ;) |
| # | 13:17:44 | jeff | so our public pc management software doesn't do guest passes the way we want, so we're just going to use a second sip server with a simple backend to provide the needed features. |
| # | 13:17:47 | tsbere | phasefx: On a different note, open-ils.storage.action.hold_request.targetable_holds.id_list doesn't want to return anything for me. No clue why, can't find errors for it. |
| # | 13:18:05 | tsbere | jeff: What is "the way you want"? |
| # | 13:19:45 | jeff | guest passes that are only valid for specific groups of workstations, guest passes that can be printed on something like perforated business card sheets, that don't expire unless used... |
| # | 13:20:17 | jeff | configurable as to if guest cards expire on use or can be used multiple times in the day they are first used, etc. |
| # | 13:21:46 | tsbere | Ok. Have fun with that. :P |
| # | 13:22:15 | tsbere hasn't done work to make most of that work, well, maybe the "specific groups of workstations" with the stat cat export, but not auto-expire on use |
| # | 13:22:15 | jeff | willdo. |
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| # | 13:23:03 | jeff | specific groups of workstations with the stat cats exposed via sip2 would work well if any of these users will have an account in the ILS |
| # | 13:23:13 | jeff | but that's not intended. |
| # | 13:24:57 | tsbere | You should be able to use the extra fields support in SIPServer for that, though |
| # | 13:26:58 | jeff | how are you thinking? |
| # | 13:27:09 | jeff | "hi, i'm a patron and would like to use your computers." |
| # | 13:27:12 | jeff | er, |
| # | 13:27:15 | jeff | s/patron/tourist/ |
| # | 13:27:31 | tsbere | Without changing SIPServer (just giving it a backend) you can have the backend provide extra fields to spit out in the response packet. |
| # | 13:27:32 | jeff | "sure, you can use this guest pass to get on one of those express stations over there!" |
| # | 13:28:48 | jeff | ah, i thought you were saying something else entirely. |
| # | 13:28:59 | jeff | yes, i don't think i'll need to make any changes to SIPServer to make this happen. |
| # | 13:29:39 | jeff | just a new backend -- somehow i thought you were suggesting that extra_fields would enable us to do guest passes with an Evergreen backend and no guest users in the ILS. |
| # | 13:41:43 | eeevil | tsbere: I can certainly fix that ... but @{...} should be setting wantarray for that call, which is disturbing |
| # | 13:42:50 | tsbere is trying to figure out why he can effectively run targetable_holds from action.pm manually in this perl file and get results, but isn't getting results when he calls it with srfsh |
| # | 13:43:31 | eeevil | tsbere: if you're in a testing mood, mind chaning that line to: ($hold->hold_type ne 'P' ? $_->part_maps->count == 0 : 1) |
| # | 13:44:18 | tsbere | eeevil: Don't have my dev system fully functional, although I might be able to swap to using our training system for some testing. |
| # | 13:45:41 | tsbere | speaking of training.... |
| # | 13:46:05 | tsbere kicks something, as the training system is fine with the open-ils.storage.action.hold_request.targetable_holds.id_list call, but production isn't |
| # | 13:47:04 | tsbere | Stupid thing is supposedly running the same code and a copy of the database, and it is working. <_< |
| # | 13:51:12 | tsbere | eeevil: That change looks to work in our training system. |
| # | 13:52:34 | tsbere | eeevil: Disclaimer: I attempted to target one hold, got [] back, made the change, restarted everything, attempted to target the same hold, got an object back. And that was the extent of my testing. |
| # | 13:54:52 | eeevil | tsbere: thanks ... will poke here before committing |
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| # | 15:01:25 | gmcharlt | mrpeters-isl: something for you to pass along to Bob - the '\' in many of the TCNs of the bib he's trying to load ... is being interpreting as a regex metacharacter by maintain_901 |
| # | 15:01:31 | gmcharlt | leading to the fun you're seeing |
| # | 15:01:41 | gmcharlt | I'll be posting a patch shortly |
| # | 15:28:25 | mrpeters-isl | 10-4 passing along |
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