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#evergreen Logs for Sunday, May 22nd, 2011

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#10:27:52dbsHi, freshly upgraded from 1.6.1 to 2.0 system, why can't you retrieve the global cache in O:Search:Biblio?
#10:29:44dbsIt would be helpful if ye olde syslog server didn't decide to choke this AM, too
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#10:53:08dbsWow. That's weird - I had to call initialize() explicitly within O::Search::Biblio to init the vars there. This is with OpenSRF 2.0.0. ENOTTOSPEC
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#12:03:59bshumdbs: What's the best way to test that? We also just upgraded to OpenSRF 2.0.0 with Evergreen 2.0.6(ish)
#12:05:13bshumOh, heh, he's not around, guess I'll find out later :)
#12:09:52tsberebshum: You could @later him
#12:10:26bshumtsbere: True, but I'll just poke him later.
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#12:51:57ConlinHello
#12:54:09bshumConlin: Greetings!
#12:54:30ConlinI am looking for some help. I was here a couple weeks ago
#12:55:21ConlinI am looking for a way to make a login for for my library's website. I would, in an ideal world, like it to integrate with evergreen. I have been looking through the documentation and I cannot find much
#13:00:25bshumConlin: I'm not too familiar with that whole process and it can be a bit quiet on Sundays. Perhaps it would be worth attempting to ask more about that during this upcoming week or mailing your questions out to our general mailing list to see if that'll help spark some discussion.
#13:01:20ConlinOk thanks! Thats waht i got last time I was here, but I thought I would check in and see if anyone had new information
#13:01:21ConlinThanks so much!
#13:05:49bshumConlin: Was this you? GDCPLG? http://www.open-ils.org/irc_logs/evergreen/2011-05/%23evergreen.11-Wed-2011.log
#13:06:06bshumIf so, looks like phasefx attempted to follow up at the end of that log.
#13:09:09ConlinYep that was me
#13:09:11Conlinthanks!
#13:10:07ConlinOk awesome. That might be a little over my head, but i am sure I can learn. That looks really help ful!
#13:10:33bshumSure, maybe phasefx can explain more next time you're both around.
#13:10:36bshumGood luck :)
#13:11:28ConlinThanks!
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#14:01:37dbs@later tell berick if you have any ideas why O:Search:Biblio wouldn't have its initialize sub automatically run by OpenSRF (on an OpenSRF rel_2_0 / Evergreen rel_2_0 / Debian Lenny system) I'm all ears. (And that's a really disturbing image)
#14:01:37pinesol_greendbs: The operation succeeded.
#14:03:04dbsmeanwhile, our backup / logging server totally crashed. good job, little guy, way to pick a good time to go down. and as it's the backup server, the fsck on reboot is going to take an eternity
#14:08:03tsberebetter the backup than, say, a production box.
#14:09:19dbstrue. Of course, as it's our logging server, I would like to use it to figure out why the upgrade of our production servers from 1.6.1 -> 2.0 appears to be wonky
#14:10:05tsbereAhhh. A case of "the most useful debugging tool decided to die as soon as you want it"?
#14:11:28dbsYeah. As I was typing "cd /var/log/remote/" it died. Protecting its secretssssessss
#14:12:13tsbereOh, it *really* went for die on demand. That sucks.
#14:12:34dbsOnly 20 or so minutes until this volume finishes its fsck ; hopefully that's the really big one.
#14:13:30dbshuzzah for HP's iLO java applet that lets me see what's going on (virtualized console inside a windows VM, whee)
#14:14:58dbstsbere: did you ever come up with a solution for the "js / css caching is awesome, until we want to kill the cache" problem? I'm considering a combination of a bash for loop and sed to ln *.js to *.js.2011-05-22...
#14:15:39tsberedbs: I think some of that may have been worked on already
#14:16:01dbsnot looking forward to telling people to hard refresh their browser on a bunch of different catalogue screens for the next month (whoops, should have shrunk down the cache window a few weeks ago)
#14:16:11dbs perks up
#14:16:42tsbereGit says commit hash e31c592c19368c09c4ccc3d9029ccf1dc9eb74d9 on master was the start of that, I think
#14:17:09tsbere"Print the path to files written by autogen in support of a cache-killing hash"
#14:17:27tsbereDunno if it is being used yet
#14:18:07dbs doesn't know how to look at the diff of just one commit
#14:18:32tsbereOne way is to just go to git.evergreen-ils.org ;)
#14:18:47dbsgetting all kinds of other changes with "git diff e31c592c19368c09c4ccc3d9029ccf1dc9eb74d9"
#14:19:09tsberegit diff e31c592c19368c09c4ccc3d9029ccf1dc9eb74d9 e31c592c19368c09c4ccc3d9029ccf1dc9eb74d9^1
#14:19:25dbshah, okay
#14:19:43dbsDRY
#14:20:00tsbere^1 is "previous commit" in refspeak, I think
#14:20:57tsbereLooks like 28283b6fea32c44658a515816943b577281de3af is related
#14:22:12tsbereand edf90f147fa0385faaaeaace957de49420dc0617
#14:24:55bshumDoesn't seem like those were ever applied to the rel_2_0 branch
#14:25:33tsbereNope. Just trunk/master
#14:25:38bshumOnly 2.1 and trunk
#14:26:00dbsawesome: "fsck died with exit status 1", that's always good to see
#14:26:00tsbereTis "new feature" territory. Thus doesn't go into released versions.
#14:26:05dbsyup
#14:26:13bshumRight.
#14:26:45dbsergo, "jerry-rig local hack" territory comes into play
#14:27:30tsbereGood news: It is solved (in whole or part) in 2.1 ;)
#14:27:54bshumdbs: What are the symptoms of the problem you're describing with opensrf 2.0.0? (We're using it now with our recently upgraded cluster but we use Ubuntu Lucid not Debian Lenny). Curious to see if it's something that's a problem here too...
#14:27:56dbsWe do hope to get there this summer
#14:28:19dbsbshum: oh, it would be pretty obvious; search wouldn't work at all
#14:28:30bshumdbs: Oh, well... that sounds particularly bad then.
#14:29:40bshumSo far, searching seems fine, so I guess we weren't affected.
#14:30:15dbsYeah, being on Lenny isn't ideal but it was the most expedient route (idea being that we would make our two app servers independent bricks, then be able to do a clean reinstall of squeeze on one brick while the other chugs along)
#14:30:56dbsFWIW, it's not a Lenny thing, as our test server (another Lenny app server -> Squeeze database server combo) didn't exhibit the same symptoms
#14:31:54bshumHmm
#14:31:56dbs curses himself a bit for taking the "safe, stable" way out for once rather than directly installing 2.1 like he had originally planned
#14:33:45tsbere usually finds the "safe, stable" way is rarely safe and/or stable
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#16:00:19dbsworked up a cache-killing approach for 2.0 that will probably avoid the bulk of the damage, but looking forward to 2.1 and beyond
#16:03:29bshumdbs: I'd be curious to see what you did.
#16:03:43bshumMaybe when things settle a bit for you.
#16:03:46dbsbshum: I'll write it up when things calm down - yeah
#16:05:22bshumdbs: Of course. Thanks and good luck.
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#16:36:19tsberelooks like the testing server went down. Was this from a planned update?
#16:37:48dbswhich testing server?
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#16:37:57dbs is twitchy
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#16:41:54berickdbs: have you tried perl -c path/to/search.pm ? it sounds like the module might be faililng to load during init
#16:42:24dbsberick: a brilliant idea!
#16:42:50berickand/or path/to/search/biblio.pm
#16:43:42dbsyeah
#16:44:11dbsperl -c /openils/lib/perl/OpenILS/Application/Search.pm complains about the lack of a bootstrap config, that's interesting
#16:44:42dbsahh, and Search::Serial needs MARC::Record 2.0.1.
#16:45:10dbsberick++
#16:45:46dbs wonders whether Makefile.install has that as a dep for lenny, or just the libmarc-record-perl...
#16:48:30dbs will wonder about that later after installing MARC::Record 2.0.3
#16:49:17tsberedbs: http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/ isn't responding, and egbuilder left the channel due to a timeout?
#16:50:09dbsoh, THAT test server
#16:50:33dbstsbere: didn't know if you meant one of the dev or community "test" servers, or what
#16:50:40dbs blames equinox :)
#16:51:02dbsI'll poke tonight - getting kicked out of the library
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#16:51:49dbsyay, serials holdings!
#16:51:52dbs scoots
#16:51:59dbsberick++
#16:52:01tsbere noticed testing.blah not responding, just now looking at the fact a pile of people left at the same time tells me a network connection likely died
#16:52:42dbsyes, all suspiciously in the same vicinity...
#16:52:44dbstsbere++
#16:52:54berickdbs: *whew* glad it's back up
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#16:53:18dbsthis is a long weekend for canucks, so totally sluggish for academics. ergo a good weekend to upgrade :)
#16:53:21dbsokay, goiong
#16:53:57tsberedbs: We do that next weekend. Just that we migrate. <_<
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