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| # | 03:01:23 | chirag | hi there..can i get some example of opensrf over http..? |
| # | 03:02:29 | chirag | i am not able to understand it.. |
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| # | 06:47:12 | m3th0d | my evergreen server is running f9 , but wenevr I am trying to run the staff client I am getting these...where I am goofing up? xulrunner application.ini " No protocol specified No protocol specified Error: cannot open display: :0.0 |
| # | 06:51:17 | csharp | m3th0d: are you running that command on the server? sounds like you don't have X forwarding enabled (assuming you're SSH-ing in)? |
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| # | 07:14:51 | m3th0d | so for issuing those commands on server i need to enable X? |
| # | 07:15:19 | m3th0d | can't I have both server and client on the same machine? |
| # | 07:15:24 | csharp | m3th0d: if you're accessing the server directly (via a TTY terminal) and don't have a GUI installed, you won't be able to run that command successfully. If you have openssh-server installed on the server and do 'ssh -XC user@serverhostname', from a computer running X you should see it come on your GUI computer |
| # | 07:15:46 | m3th0d | that i get |
| # | 07:16:02 | m3th0d | but I have installed the server on the same machine |
| # | 07:16:05 | csharp | s/come/come up/ ;-) |
| # | 07:16:19 | m3th0d | which hai GUI enabled |
| # | 07:17:24 | csharp | m3th0d: so are you trying to run the xulrunner command from a TTY or from a terminal application from within the Fedora desktop environment? |
| # | 07:17:42 | m3th0d | from the terminal within my ubuntu lucid |
| # | 07:17:43 | m3th0d | box |
| # | 07:18:11 | csharp thought "f9" meant "Fedora 9" |
| # | 07:19:31 | m3th0d | oh sry for ambiguous work i meant fine from "f9" |
| # | 07:20:32 | csharp | oh = okay ;-) |
| # | 07:21:09 | csharp | so... are you trying to run that command as root? or as your regular user? |
| # | 07:22:14 | csharp is viewing this Ubuntu Forums thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166863 |
| # | 07:22:44 | csharp steps away - will return in a bit |
| # | 07:31:18 | m3th0d | I got it working by issuing the commands as root user |
| # | 07:31:44 | m3th0d | thnx and regards |
| # | 07:50:27 | m3th0d | i can only use staff client in offline mode |
| # | 07:50:31 | m3th0d | ? |
| # | 07:51:57 | csharp | m3th0d: do you get an error? |
| # | 07:53:25 | m3th0d | I got the windows.. but not sure what to enter in hostname field and username and password.. "offline use is working" |
| # | 07:53:42 | m3th0d | tried localhost and local certificates that i made during installation |
| # | 07:54:17 | m3th0d | but I am unable to connect to server that i provide in hostname' |
| # | 07:54:45 | csharp | m3th0d: put in 'localhost' and click 'Add SSL Exception' |
| # | 07:54:55 | m3th0d | yeh that i have already done |
| # | 07:54:57 | m3th0d | then? |
| # | 07:55:03 | m3th0d | username an pass./ |
| # | 07:55:03 | m3th0d | ? |
| # | 07:55:07 | m3th0d | and |
| # | 07:55:22 | csharp | does it say 200 OK beside version and status? |
| # | 07:55:31 | m3th0d | yeah |
| # | 07:55:39 | m3th0d | both 200 |
| # | 07:55:45 | csharp | were you able to login via srfsh? |
| # | 07:55:52 | csharp | (from the command line?) |
| # | 07:56:01 | m3th0d | hvnt tried yet |
| # | 07:56:43 | csharp | m3th0d: you would have picked a default admin user during the database config step of installation - do you remember what you chose? |
| # | 07:57:09 | m3th0d | i thnk u meant this |
| # | 07:57:12 | m3th0d | srfsh# login admin open-ils Received Data: "500df17d1ece9871b630b8801c8cb075" ------------------------------------ Request Completed Successfully Request Time in seconds: 0.023742 ------------------------------------ |
| # | 07:57:30 | csharp | m3th0d: yes |
| # | 07:57:53 | csharp | okay, so use admin as username and open-ils as password to login to the staff client |
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| # | 07:59:32 | csharp | m3th0d: you still there? |
| # | 07:59:41 | m3th0d_ | m here |
| # | 07:59:47 | m3th0d_ | os ran out of memory |
| # | 07:59:53 | m3th0d_ | cause of evrgreen :) |
| # | 07:59:59 | m3th0d_ | its Vm basically |
| # | 08:00:06 | m3th0d_ | yeah |
| # | 08:00:09 | m3th0d_ | u got my last msg |
| # | 08:00:17 | csharp | about srfsh? |
| # | 08:00:26 | m3th0d_ | about login |
| # | 08:00:30 | m3th0d_ | srfsh# login admin open-ils Received Data: "500df17d1ece9871b630b8801c8cb075" ------------------------------------ Request Completed Successfully Request Time in seconds: 0.023742 ------------------------------------ |
| # | 08:00:40 | m3th0d_ | this is what u meant |
| # | 08:00:41 | m3th0d_ | ? |
| # | 08:00:59 | csharp | right - does it say SUCCESS in the "textcode" section of the output?> |
| # | 08:01:12 | csharp | like this?: http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=server:2.0:install#testing_connections_to_evergreen |
| # | 08:01:19 | m3th0d_ | yeah |
| # | 08:01:22 | m3th0d_ | it says so |
| # | 08:01:24 | m3th0d_ | "textcode":"SUCCESS", "desc":"Success", |
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| # | 08:01:41 | csharp | ok - then use 'admin' as username and 'open-ils' as passwd for the staff client |
| # | 08:01:47 | csharp | heh |
| # | 08:02:15 | csharp | @later tell m3th0d_ ok - then use 'admin' as username and 'open-ils' as passwd for the staff client |
| # | 08:02:15 | pinesol` | csharp: The operation succeeded. |
| # | 08:02:16 | m3th0d_ | tried |
| # | 08:03:53 | m3th0d_ | last tym when i tried , it reports about some kinda network error |
| # | 08:04:26 | csharp | m3th0d_: how much memory do you have? |
| # | 08:04:33 | m3th0d_ | 512 on VM |
| # | 08:04:54 | m3th0d_ | wll have access to 4gb but after 5th of april |
| # | 08:04:55 | m3th0d_ | :( |
| # | 08:05:20 | csharp | m3th0d_: ah - I see - I would imagine that memory is the issue (not network) |
| # | 08:05:34 | m3th0d_ | yeah that may be .... |
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| # | 08:05:58 | m3th0d_ | csharp by teh way , can one student apply for more than 1 projects of evergreen ? |
| # | 08:06:07 | csharp | "network failure" means that the server didn't get the message you sent from the staff client or that the staff client got no response from the server |
| # | 08:06:32 | csharp | it doesn't (usually) indicate an issue with your LAN |
| # | 08:06:53 | m3th0d_ | memory is the issue cause starting or stoppin client or server either excessively hangs out my box |
| # | 08:06:54 | csharp | m3th0d_: not sure about that - you might ask gmcharlt or phasefx about it |
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| # | 08:07:19 | csharp | m3th0d_: yeah - you'll be fine with more memory |
| # | 08:07:21 | m3th0d_ | yeah sure |
| # | 08:07:38 | bshum | 1 GB min helps. |
| # | 08:07:49 | csharp has to leave |
| # | 08:07:54 | csharp | m3th0d_: good luck! |
| # | 08:07:58 | bshum | Alot of others reported problems with less. |
| # | 08:08:00 | m3th0d_ | thanxx |
| # | 08:08:11 | m3th0d_ | ohh |
| # | 08:08:18 | gmcharlt | m3th0d_: yes, you can apply to more than one |
| # | 08:08:36 | bshum | At least with 2.0+ |
| # | 08:08:45 | gmcharlt | if accepted, you'd work on only one project, of course |
| # | 08:08:58 | m3th0d_ | ok , i have 4gb box but currently that is nt available |
| # | 08:09:07 | m3th0d_ | for the time being have to bear this |
| # | 08:09:32 | m3th0d_ | ok so its sure that whatevr project is listed , all are approved |
| # | 08:09:44 | m3th0d_ | that if 10 are the projects , u ll take 10 students |
| # | 08:09:44 | m3th0d_ | ? |
| # | 08:11:21 | m3th0d_ | I am working on creating android app for "best deals available" in any location... |
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| # | 08:12:09 | gmcharlt | m3th0d_: well, not up to ten; we've asked for at most 3 students |
| # | 08:12:17 | gmcharlt | as we don't have 10 mentors :) |
| # | 08:12:23 | m3th0d_ | ohhh |
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| # | 08:13:34 | m3th0d_ | well for creating android app , having support for usb barcode scanner |
| # | 08:14:05 | m3th0d_ | only issue wud be |
| # | 08:14:13 | m3th0d_ | abt usb bar code scanner device |
| # | 08:14:14 | m3th0d_ | i thnk |
| # | 08:14:40 | m3th0d_ | well ll talk upon that , wen i have smthng concrete to say |
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| # | 08:29:47 | mrpeters-isl | all -- trying to get generate_circ_notices to run and i'm getting an error postgres@superpg2:/var/evergreen/scripts$ ./notices.sh 5 |
| # | 08:29:47 | mrpeters-isl | Can't locate OpenILS/Const.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at ./generate_circ_notices.pl line 30. |
| # | 08:29:47 | mrpeters-isl | BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./generate_circ_notices.pl line 30. |
| # | 08:30:07 | mrpeters-isl | however, /openils/lib/perl5/OpenILS/Const.pm exists |
| # | 08:32:03 | tsbere | mrpeters-isl: /openils/anything isnt in your @INC path? |
| # | 08:32:21 | mrpeters-isl | hmm |
| # | 08:32:53 | mrpeters-isl | might be on to somethign |
| # | 08:35:18 | mrpeters-isl | tsbere: where am i looking? |
| # | 08:36:07 | tsbere | If this is pre-moved perl stuff then I would say your perl5lib variable isn't set? |
| # | 08:36:26 | tsbere | If this is post-moved perl stuff then I have no clue why it would need to look in /openils/lib |
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| # | 08:47:13 | mrpeters-isl | i think you're right with the path stuff...i'm just having some trouble weaving my way through this setup for some reason |
| # | 08:47:36 | mrpeters-isl | notices script runs as postgres user, but i think there is a link between the opensrf and postgres path's that i'm missing |
| # | 08:47:49 | mrpeters-isl | can't put my finger on it |
| # | 08:49:00 | mrpeters-isl | ahah! |
| # | 08:49:03 | tsbere | opensrf user usually has a PERL5LIB= line in .bashrc, postgres user may need it (and the ability to read the /openils folder) |
| # | 08:49:25 | mrpeters-isl | notices script calls /etc/profile which has that |
| # | 08:49:54 | mrpeters-isl | dangit still no dice |
| # | 08:50:04 | tsbere | Why is the notices script running as postgres? |
| # | 08:51:00 | mrpeters-isl | have to defer to ESI on that |
| # | 08:51:09 | mrpeters-isl | now have postgres@superpg2:/var/evergreen/scripts$ ./notices.sh |
| # | 08:51:09 | mrpeters-isl | Can't locate oils_header.pl in @INC (@INC contains: /openils/lib/perl5/ /openils/lib/perl5/ /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at ./generate_circ_notices.pl line 17. |
| # | 08:52:19 | dbs | oils_header.pl is in Open-ILS/src/support-scripts/oils_header.pl ; you could copy that to whereever you're running the script |
| # | 08:52:25 | mrpeters-isl | yep just saw that |
| # | 08:52:27 | mrpeters-isl | thanks dbs |
| # | 08:52:55 | dbs | i'm with tsbere though, seems weird that the postgres user is doing anything like this |
| # | 08:53:08 | mrpeters-isl | i have to defer to esi on why they set it up that way |
| # | 08:53:09 | mrpeters-isl | i dont know |
| # | 08:55:08 | mrpeters-isl | winning! thanks guys |
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| # | 10:38:27 | phasefx has tiger blood |
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| # | 11:52:53 | bshum | Hmm, would scripts and crons run okay if we had to force them onto a brick drone temporarily? |
| # | 11:53:35 | bshum | As long as OpenSRF was running on the server, I assumed it would be able to perform tasks |
| # | 11:54:30 | rickd_ | does anyone remember which file, on the staff client, has to be touched to allow for offline transactions to be reuploaded to the server if they were lost on the server? |
| # | 11:55:22 | bshum | Oh, guess I can run a script on any server in the brick of OpenSRF |
| # | 11:55:36 | bshum | Just ran reshelving off a head machine. Fun. |
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| # | 12:06:09 | Levelle | Is there a way to customize staff client port settings? I know the default is 80/443. |
| # | 12:06:45 | tsbere | Levelle: Not sure why you want to? |
| # | 12:09:59 | Levelle | I currently have a server that aleady uses port 80 and 443. I set apache on the evergreen server to use 8008. Since then I can't connect using the staff client. |
| # | 12:14:58 | tsbere | looks difficult offhand |
| # | 12:15:48 | tsbere | The client expects a server name and then adds http or https depending on function |
| # | 12:16:30 | dbs | create a virtual nic with a different hostname / ip address and listen on that? |
| # | 12:16:43 | phasefx | ssh port forwarding, connect client to localhost |
| # | 12:25:59 | moodaepo | rickd_: I believe you need to look for pending_xacts file in OpenILS\open_ils_staff_client\Profiles\[randomstring].default |
| # | 12:30:15 | moodaepo | I pulled that info from a conversation csharp and bshum had a few weeks |
| # | 12:30:19 | moodaepo | ago |
| # | 12:30:51 | moodaepo | or few days ago : ) |
| # | 12:30:55 | bshum | If the transactions were already uploaded doesn't it erase from the staff client side? |
| # | 12:31:12 | bshum | (at least that's what I thought) |
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| # | 12:32:44 | rickd_ | I remember doing this a couple of years ago, and I don't remember it Bill or Jason helped me but we either deleted something or reset a flag on the staff client and it then reuploaded the transactions. |
| # | 12:33:04 | rickd_ | I had notes but cannot lay my hands on them |
| # | 12:33:05 | mrpeters-isl | rick, ben is right |
| # | 12:33:18 | rickd_ | so they are lost? |
| # | 12:33:43 | mrpeters-isl | did you back up before processing? |
| # | 12:34:02 | rickd_ | It did not get done |
| # | 12:34:13 | mrpeters-isl | they arent lost, but they are probably renamed |
| # | 12:34:21 | mrpeters-isl | i think i told you how to do this a couple days ago |
| # | 12:34:27 | mrpeters-isl | but ben's path is correct |
| # | 12:34:34 | mrpeters-isl | %APPDATA%\OpenILS... |
| # | 12:34:42 | mrpeters-isl | look for the most recently modified pending_xacts file |
| # | 12:34:48 | mrpeters-isl | that's probably the one you most recently uploaded and processed |
| # | 12:36:22 | bshum | Aha |
| # | 12:36:28 | bshum | Under the chrome directory |
| # | 12:36:38 | bshum | There's pending_xacts_exported_%date% |
| # | 12:36:44 | bshum | So that's the renamed file |
| # | 12:36:47 | bshum | If you had to go back |
| # | 12:38:43 | bshum | moodaepo++ for digging up the path |
| # | 12:40:17 | moodaepo | bshum++ # So rickd_ just has to copy the renamed file over to pending_xacts and re-upload? |
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| # | 12:43:08 | Levelle | How do I configure staff client to use ssh port fowarding? |
| # | 12:43:33 | bshum | moodaepo: Sounds like that would work. Maybe. |
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| # | 12:44:28 | bshum | Is anyone using this marc_stream_importer.pl script that's been brought up as a bug ticket recently? |
| # | 12:44:40 | bshum | It sounds... quite interesting for those of us using OCLC clients |
| # | 12:44:57 | gmcharlt | bshum: KCLS |
| # | 12:45:10 | bshum | gmcharlt: Ahhhh, cool! |
| # | 12:45:50 | phasefx | stat cat editor is busted in trunk, probably elsewhere too. user.id is not a function, line 83 stat_cat_editor.js |
| # | 12:46:19 | mrpeters-isl | bshum: it will |
| # | 12:46:25 | phasefx | I'll come back to this if no one gets an itch for it :) |
| # | 12:46:46 | mrpeters-isl | phasefx++ |
| # | 12:47:40 | mrpeters-isl | will be anxiously awaiting the fix |
| # | 12:48:11 | phasefx | mrpeters-isl: is that something you've reported to ESI? I'm not involved with all your tickets |
| # | 12:48:29 | phasefx just hit that trying to fix something else |
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| # | 12:51:14 | mrpeters-isl | oh - i was think it was related to the checkin issues we're having |
| # | 12:51:23 | mrpeters-isl | since i think that's looking at stat cat data, right? |
| # | 12:51:47 | phasefx | yeah, the problem there is foreign stat cats on the user; I'm working on a patch for that |
| # | 12:51:55 | mrpeters-isl | aha ok - different then, my bad |
| # | 12:52:18 | phasefx | but, to do this, I wanted to create some stat cats in my local environment, and broken editor. boo :) |
| # | 12:52:26 | mrpeters-isl | hehe |
| # | 12:52:41 | phasefx enters some by hand, keeps on trucking |
| # | 12:56:02 | tsbere dislikes looking at X and finding out that Y is an issue in general |
| # | 12:58:34 | phasefx | my life is tangents :) |
| # | 13:00:55 | bshum | exit |
| # | 13:00:59 | bshum | Oops |
| # | 13:01:00 | bshum | Heh |
| # | 13:02:13 | senator | Levelle: you would want to set up the port forwarding such that port 80 on localhost goes to port 8008 on your server, and port 443 on localhost goes to port whatever-https-is on your server. the you just tell the staff client to log in to localhost. nothing special required. however, having said all that, dbs suggestion of a virtual nic is far less brittle, and usually easy to set up unless |
| # | 13:02:19 | senator | you're working in constricted circumstances (no IP addresses to take for server's virtual nic) |
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| # | 13:08:40 | rickd_ | thanks for Moodaepo, bshum, and Mrpeters. Here is how to do it in a nut shell. Go into moodaepo> rickd_: I believe you need to look for pending_xacts file in OpenILS\open_ils_staff_client\Profiles\chrome\[randomstring].default |
| # | 13:09:31 | rickd_ | then change the delete the date file to pending_xzcts and reupload. |
| # | 13:09:34 | rickd_ | thanks all |
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| # | 13:14:47 | Levelle | As of now traffic to port 80 is forwarded to a different server that listens on 80. We are using NAT. The OPAC seems to work fine using 8008. srfsh login works ok. I just can't get the staff client to connect. I get the following msg: method=open-ils.auth.authenticate.init params=["admin"] THROWN: Network Failure: status = <unknown> service=open-ils.auth&method=open-ils.auth.authenticate.init¶m=%22admin%22 STATUS: <unknown> |
| # | 13:15:19 | tsbere | Levelle: For now the staff client is not compatible with nonstandard ports. |
| # | 13:15:57 | tsbere | If you cannot get a second IP you will need to use the SSH tunnel trick |
| # | 13:18:49 | Levelle | tsbere: where do I find instructions using ssh tunneling? |
| # | 13:19:13 | tsbere | Levelle: What SSH program are you using on the client? |
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| # | 13:21:58 | Levelle | tsbere: I'm using a mac so I normally use the built-in ssh function. I do have access to putty or teraterm on windows. |
| # | 13:24:00 | tsbere | Levelle: OpenSSH accepts -L for port forwarding on command line. -L 80:<host>:nonsslport -L 443:<host>:sslport, replace nonsslport and sslport with the appropriate port numbers. I think. Haven't tested. Check your man pages. |
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| # | 13:29:03 | bshum | Meerkat! |
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| # | 13:41:58 | Digital_Pioneer | Any GSoC mentors about, who would care to talk about the Android clients? dbs? |
| # | 13:42:24 | dbs | Digital_Pioneer: Sure, I can be around |
| # | 13:42:49 | Digital_Pioneer | dbs: Excellent. I'm working on my proposal. Just wanted to clear something up. |
| # | 13:43:17 | Digital_Pioneer | The APIs the Android client would use, you said, would be over HTTP. Are those APIs already available, or would I be creating those as well? |
| # | 13:44:00 | Digital_Pioneer | I ask because I know pretty much all of the communication is done over jabber internally now. I don't know whether there actually is a way to communicate from the cloud yet. |
| # | 13:44:04 | tsbere | They already exist, and preferably you would support https too |
| # | 13:44:07 | mrpeters-isl | phasefx++ thanks for 19862 |
| # | 13:44:08 | dbs | Digital_Pioneer: most or all of the APIs already exist, at least if you're calling them via OpenSRF over HTTP (or via the gateway) |
| # | 13:44:27 | mrpeters-isl | works like a charm |
| # | 13:44:27 | Digital_Pioneer | Excellent. Thanks. :) |
| # | 13:44:41 | dbs | Some of the required functionality for using HTTP may not exist in the Java client today, though |
| # | 13:44:44 | Digital_Pioneer | tsbere: Sure, that stands to reason. |
| # | 13:45:22 | Digital_Pioneer | dbs: I would be surprised if it doesn't. But I've been wrong before. |
| # | 13:45:27 | dbs | development of the Java client essentially ended about 3 years ago, so it will probably need some general TLC + be taught to speak HTTP |
| # | 13:46:00 | dbs | Digital_Pioneer: well, I'm talking specifically about OpenSRF via HTTP. Did you see my post about this on the general mailing list this morning? |
| # | 13:46:35 | Digital_Pioneer | dbs: I am not on the ML yet... I suppose I should get on that. :P |
| # | 13:47:12 | phasefx | lots of chatter going on about android on the list :) a new one just popped up |
| # | 13:47:25 | dbs | Digital_Pioneer, http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/2011-March/004598.html |
| # | 13:48:41 | dbs | yep, it would be good to keep an eye on that thread, a lot of the people responding are actual Evergreen users :) |
| # | 13:52:14 | Digital_Pioneer | So you're having a lot of interest in the GSoC Android app development? |
| # | 13:52:38 | Digital_Pioneer | dbs: So the communication is all in JSON? |
| # | 13:53:51 | dbs | Digital_Pioneer: Yep. JSON over XMPP or HTTP |
| # | 13:54:20 | dbs | Did you read the OpenSRF article or the Evergreen workshop? |
| # | 13:54:59 | Digital_Pioneer | I looked over the OSRF article several days back. |
| # | 13:56:00 | Digital_Pioneer | So what features are we looking for in a customer client? |
| # | 13:56:29 | Digital_Pioneer | And by the way, as to barcodes, you can scan traditional barcodes, but it's much, much easier to use a 2D barcode such as QR. |
| # | 13:57:03 | tsbere | Digital_Pioneer: Easier to use, not easier for libraries to put on every item. |
| # | 13:57:05 | Digital_Pioneer | At least for scanning. The camera can read those much faster, so you don't have to worry about holding the phone perfectly still and whatnot. |
| # | 13:57:27 | Digital_Pioneer | tsbere: Right. Heheh |
| # | 13:59:25 | dbs | Digital_Pioneer: you might want to read that thread I pointed you at to see some of the interests people have; do an environmental scan of what other library apps do (there are a number of them out there), and try to piece together a compelling pitch that way |
| # | 13:59:37 | phasefx imagines an augmented reality android app that notices some code on the spine of a book and projects out digital information like the author/title in 3d space :-D |
| # | 14:00:04 | dbs | because phasefx has trouble reading the title and author on the spine of the book |
| # | 14:00:09 | Digital_Pioneer notes: will be incorporating 6th Sense into application. |
| # | 14:00:14 | tsbere | As a thought, cameras can scan the 2d barcodes off of monitors. A secondary piece to make the catalog provide those on demand for people to scan? |
| # | 14:00:22 | phasefx | dbs: or better, project the jacket image :D |
| # | 14:00:42 | tsbere | (cameras as compared to laser-based scanners, which hate monitors) |
| # | 14:01:12 | dbs | tsbere: sure - encode call number, bibliographic info, etc in the QR code |
| # | 14:01:24 | jeff | phasefx: there's an AR app that does shelf reading based on QR-code spine labels. wjr was just talking about it here. |
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| # | 14:02:51 | jeff | ah, wjr was speaking of a link from kate on-list: http://www.users.muohio.edu/brinkmwj/ar/ |
| # | 14:03:56 | dbs | tsbere: and encode a link that goes to a mobile-friendly display of that item. of course, that whole thing is probably a project in and of itself |
| # | 14:03:59 | phasefx | awesome |
| # | 14:04:24 | tsbere | dbs: I don't recall such a thing on the ideas page. Should it be? |
| # | 14:05:06 | dbs | tsbere: it could be, I suppose. the list is just a starting place for ideas, students are free to submit entirely new proposals |
| # | 14:05:43 | phasefx | didn't know gadgets could scan multiple qr codes all at once |
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| # | 14:27:21 | moodaepo | bshum: You'll want to use this > http://www.comparethemeerkat.com/ |
| # | 14:27:56 | bshum | moodaepo: Haha :) |
| # | 14:28:16 | bshum | moodaepo: While not free, I enjoy Meerkat's nice GUI as an SSH tunnel program for Macs. |
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| # | 15:49:45 | chirag | hi there...could i get some example of opensrf over http? |
| # | 15:50:11 | chirag | can anyone please provide me with that |
| # | 15:50:15 | chirag | ? |
| # | 16:09:28 | bshum | dbs: Question about Launchpad, are there permissions available for bug team members to be granted the ability to mark a bug as targeting a specific series? |
| # | 16:10:05 | bshum | I vaguely recall the notion that bugs should be targeted to series (like 1.6, 2.0, 2.1, and trunk) instead of a specific milestone. |
| # | 16:10:25 | bshum | But it seems that we can only nominate bugs for a series, but not target them. |
| # | 16:10:39 | bshum | Is the targeting process only allowed for folks with higher permissions? |
| # | 16:12:57 | bshum | Alternatively I guess I'll poke Dyrcona who's our head bug wrangler :) |
| # | 16:16:46 | bshum | Issue being that nominations to the series doesn't actively target them so the links to showing bugs affecting particular series may not contain a complete list of outstanding bug issues. |
| # | 16:17:04 | phasefx | chirag: http://evergreen-ils.org/~denials/OpenSRF_intro_part1.html#OpenSRFOverHTTP though you may want to start at the beginning of that page for more context |
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| # | 16:29:47 | chirag | phasex:yesterday you told me about curl..i need to ask you something about that |
| # | 16:29:59 | moodaepo | bshum and I were thinking that if there is an option in Launchpad that allows selective permissions that could be applied to a wider group we could help with wrangling, targeting bugs and other clerical work. |
| # | 16:30:08 | chirag | phasefx:yesterday you told me about curl..i need to ask you something about that |
| # | 16:30:18 | phasefx | chirag: ask away |
| # | 16:30:46 | phasefx | chirag: or in other words, "What is your question? |
| # | 16:31:01 | chirag | i have read that it as a command line tool..can i implement it in a application |
| # | 16:31:04 | chirag | ? |
| # | 16:31:38 | chirag | by application i mean gui application |
| # | 16:31:49 | phasefx | every modern programming language will have some mechanism for doing what curl does (probably in a library or module) |
| # | 16:32:32 | phasefx | in javascript, for example, you could use XMLHttpRequest |
| # | 16:33:09 | chirag | var req = ses.request('open-ils.auth.authenticate.init', uname); |
| # | 16:33:14 | phasefx | for java, probably something in java.net |
| # | 16:33:45 | chirag | basically in this line can i append ipaddress before open-ils.auth.authenticate.init? |
| # | 16:34:38 | phasefx | chirag: ses.request('open-ils.auth.authenticate.init', uname); would translate into something like http://hostname/gateway?service=open-ils.auth&method=open-ils.auth.authenticate.init¶m=uname |
| # | 16:35:47 | phasefx | by ip address, you're asking how to specify what server you're making a request against? |
| # | 16:35:52 | chirag | i need to specify the hostname |
| # | 16:36:01 | chirag | how can i do that |
| # | 16:36:08 | phasefx | it depends on what you're using |
| # | 16:36:26 | phasefx | I'm not familiar with ses.request, so can't answer that readily |
| # | 16:37:17 | chirag | i am working on host machine and need to talk to virtual machine..so in order to do that i have to provide ipaddress in place of hostname |
| # | 16:37:45 | phasefx | chirag: have you done any network programming before? |
| # | 16:38:17 | chirag | yes..i have made an webapp which requires basic of it |
| # | 16:38:27 | phasefx | client/server programming? |
| # | 16:38:44 | chirag | yep |
| # | 16:38:55 | chirag | yes |
| # | 16:39:00 | phasefx | what tools did you use? |
| # | 16:39:40 | chirag | by tools you mean language api? |
| # | 16:39:43 | phasefx | right |
| # | 16:40:21 | chirag | java ...jms...dwr |
| # | 16:40:45 | phasefx | and when writing client-side code, how did you specify what server to talk to? |
| # | 16:41:23 | phasefx takes a step back, "are you just wanting to know what the ip address of the vm machine is? |
| # | 16:42:59 | chirag | i know the ip address of virtual machine...but i just want that var req = ses.request('open-ils.auth.authenticate.init', uname); should get converted to http://*ipaddressof vm*/gateway?service=open-ils.auth&method=open-ils.auth.authenticate.init¶m=uname |
| # | 16:43:15 | phasefx | yeah, you know as much as me at this point |
| # | 16:43:36 | phasefx | is that javascript? |
| # | 16:44:07 | phasefx | are you in an interactive environment where you can test out javascript a line at a time? |
| # | 16:44:24 | chirag | no |
| # | 16:44:53 | phasefx | no to which? |
| # | 16:45:09 | chirag | are you in an interactive environment where you can test out javascript a line at a time? |
| # | 16:45:17 | phasefx | but that is javascript? |
| # | 16:45:23 | chirag | yes |
| # | 16:45:39 | phasefx | what you can do is read the source code for what is defining request |
| # | 16:45:43 | chirag | are you also applying in gsoc as atudent? |
| # | 16:45:55 | chirag | student* |
| # | 16:46:10 | phasefx | no, I'm actually volunteering to be a mentor, believe it or not :) |
| # | 16:46:38 | chirag | ohk.. |
| # | 16:46:38 | phasefx | but I don't have the big picture for everything that is Evergreen |
| # | 16:47:25 | phasefx | it's an amalgam of different technologies, strategies, with a good bit of redundancies and cruft :) |
| # | 16:47:35 | chirag | staff client of evergreen is written in which language? |
| # | 16:48:26 | phasefx | staff client uses a lot of Javascript. Parts of it are straight up DHTML, using Dojo. Other parts use a different DOM-specifying markup called XUL |
| # | 16:49:08 | phasefx | older staff client (and OPAC) code used a library called RemoteRequest.js, which spoke to the http://hostname/gateway |
| # | 16:49:37 | phasefx | newer stuff uses the osrf-translator/, and I'm not as familiar with it |
| # | 16:49:52 | chirag | can i get the source code of an application build in java..for evergreen? |
| # | 16:50:31 | phasefx | doubtful; the one guy who wrote a java application for evergreen didn't open source his code |
| # | 16:51:13 | chirag | dat means if i write one i'll be the first to opensource it..:) |
| # | 16:51:18 | phasefx | the java library was more of an experiment; it's not used in production Evergreen |
| # | 16:51:36 | phasefx | chirag: that'll be cool :) |
| # | 16:51:58 | chirag | but in evrgreen source code its present..i just checked it out |
| # | 16:52:22 | phasefx | right, but it's incomplete, and may be broken |
| # | 16:52:50 | mayanks43 | phasefx: do u think the replace remote XUL in staff client with client XUL is a big enough project for gsoc? |
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| # | 16:53:16 | phasefx | mayanks43: I do, and that's why it's on the list of ideas |
| # | 16:53:27 | mayanks43 | I wanted to apply for it |
| # | 16:53:51 | phasefx | it may turn out to be pretty easy, but I suspect it'll be a lot of work |
| # | 16:54:07 | mayanks43 | ok |
| # | 16:54:39 | phasefx | have you played with xul before? |
| # | 16:54:39 | mayanks43 | what all do I download to build evergreen from source code? |
| # | 16:54:44 | mayanks43 | no phasefx |
| # | 16:54:57 | mayanks43 | but since it's a web tech i think i can handle |
| # | 16:55:09 | phasefx | you need to download OpenSRF and Evergreen |
| # | 16:55:28 | mayanks43 | how are they connected or is there some link to know about that? |
| # | 16:55:47 | mayanks43 | and vcs is svn right? |
| # | 16:56:06 | phasefx | OpenSRF is a framework that Evergreen runs on top of. svn, right, though there are some dvcs mirrors |
| # | 16:56:14 | dbs | phasefx++ |
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| # | 16:56:31 | dbs | mayanks43: there are two articles at the top of the evergreen ideas page that you really should read and work through |
| # | 16:56:37 | mayanks43 | ok |
| # | 16:57:02 | phasefx needs to get ready for traveling home. dbs: tag-team? :) |
| # | 16:58:17 | phasefx | bbl |
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| # | 17:01:08 | bradl watches the dbs and phasefx tag team ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=samNFe8vqeI |
| # | 17:03:58 | dbs | phasefx: I'm pretty jammed for the rest of the night |
| # | 17:04:21 | phasefx tags the mailing lists |
| # | 17:04:52 | dbs | bradl: nice classic choice, makes me feel better about having read the Bret the Hitman Hart autobiography a few years back |
| # | 17:05:03 | phasefx | I'm going to get home late after watching this Mr. T fight |
| # | 17:05:22 | bradl | I pity the foo |
| # | 17:05:41 | phasefx still has the Mr. T sound recording keychain |
| # | 17:06:07 | bradl used the watch the hell out of this when he was a kid "that's real!" |
| # | 17:07:17 | dbs | The early days of Governer Ventura |
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| # | 18:04:48 | chirag | dbs:hi..i want to talk to you regarding opensrf over http |
| # | 18:05:19 | dbs | chirag: did you read the articles at the top of the ideas page? |
| # | 18:05:26 | chirag | yup |
| # | 18:05:48 | dbs | Good. And are you subscribed to the evergreen general and development mailing lists? |
| # | 18:05:59 | chirag | yes |
| # | 18:06:48 | dbs | Okay. So you saw my email with an OpenSRF over HTTP example earlier today? |
| # | 18:07:45 | chirag | no..i am just checking it |
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| # | 18:11:10 | dbs | Okay, unfortunately I have to go out and have dinner and such, but I'd be delighted to see some more specific questions on the -dev list about OpenSRF over HTTP based on your findings |
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| # | 18:11:29 | dbs | Good night |
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