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| # | 00:37:50 | phasefx | dbs: http://acq.open-ils.org/opac/extras/docgen.xsl is up now |
| # | 00:37:58 | dbs | phasefx++ |
| # | 00:38:08 | phasefx needs to get SIP going too |
| # | 00:49:42 | dbs | And Z39.50! |
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| # | 02:01:22 | dbs | @later tell csharp when you get the chance, can you rerun ./configure in OpenSRF on your build slaves and include the --enable-python flag, then do the make && make install dance? Getting some false positives in the buildbot due to missing Python deps |
| # | 02:01:22 | pinesol` | dbs: The operation succeeded. |
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| # | 03:37:00 | dbs | And the dev VM upload begins... and I fall into bed. |
| # | 03:38:40 | dbs | The README is at http://evergreen-ils.org/~denials/README_2011-03-19 (for now), and the VM will be available at http://evergreen-ils.org/~denials/Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ova in about 4.5 hours (at least until I rename them) |
| # | 06:51:23 | artunit | @later tell fowbar sorry to have missed you, am glad to talk about the migration at any time |
| # | 06:51:23 | pinesol` | artunit: The operation succeeded. |
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| # | 09:11:35 | denials | Developer VM image with PostgreSQL 9.0 on Squeeze is available from downloads.php and linked from the Summer of Coding page. And I'm AFK for another few hours |
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| # | 09:25:38 | mayanks43 | Hi there |
| # | 09:25:47 | mayanks43 | is this the correct place to talk gsoc? |
| # | 09:31:34 | eeevil | mayanks43: it is, but there may not be may gsoc mentor types around right now since it's early on the weekend (at or near UTC-5 for most folks in here) |
| # | 09:31:47 | eeevil | however, welcome! |
| # | 09:32:31 | mayanks43 | ok thanks |
| # | 09:33:03 | mayanks43 | when do I catch hold of gsoc mentor? :) |
| # | 09:33:07 | eeevil | mayanks43: what about the project caught your eye? |
| # | 09:34:22 | eeevil | definitely during the day (US) on weekdays, and probably a bit later today |
| # | 09:34:49 | eeevil | but as far as general questions go, feel free to ask any time |
| # | 09:35:12 | mayanks43 | I had never heard of an electronic library system |
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| # | 09:35:21 | eeevil | it's just the gsoc-specific questions that dbs, gmcharlt or phasefx would be best at answering |
| # | 09:35:39 | mayanks43 | It was exciting to find out about one :) |
| # | 09:36:20 | mayanks43 | Can I ask you about project related questions from the ideas list? |
| # | 09:36:48 | eeevil | sure |
| # | 09:37:49 | mayanks43 | I was interested in the porting remote XUL to client XUL idea |
| # | 09:38:08 | mayanks43 | Any ideas about the challenges I may face if I take it up? |
| # | 09:40:52 | eeevil | well, most of the infrastructure should be there, AIUI. phasefx is probably the best person to address big-picture questions like that, as he's responsible for the majority of the existing XUL work, and also the one that wants local XUL the most ;) |
| # | 09:41:48 | mayanks43 | ok |
| # | 09:41:50 | eeevil | are you familiar with XUL already? |
| # | 09:41:56 | mayanks43 | not really |
| # | 09:42:04 | mayanks43 | but it seems simple |
| # | 09:42:24 | eeevil | it's not super complicated, nope |
| # | 09:43:50 | mayanks43 | which langs is evergreen mostly based on? |
| # | 09:44:43 | eeevil | the client side is XUL/XHTML and JavaScript |
| # | 09:45:49 | eeevil | the server side is primarily Perl and C, with a growing amount of PL/PGSQL and PL/Perl (we use Postgres for the DB) |
| # | 09:45:50 | mayanks43 | and backend? |
| # | 09:45:53 | mayanks43 | ok |
| # | 09:46:35 | mayanks43 | Evergreen isn't extendable to other database systems? |
| # | 09:48:47 | eeevil | it requires pretty high transaction rates, so the schema has become more optimized (and less DB agnostic) over time |
| # | 09:49:41 | eeevil | porting to another db is possible, as we use libdbi in C and DBD in Perl to connect to the database, but it's not a goal of the project |
| # | 09:50:03 | mayanks43 | ok |
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| # | 10:24:42 | eeevil | grabbing 0503 |
| # | 10:38:13 | eeevil | tsbere: wheee ... graceintervals is in |
| # | 10:45:19 | tsbere | eeevil: Yay! Although Dyrcona will be unhappy. He will need to adjust his load scripts to take into account the new required column. |
| # | 10:45:58 | eeevil | tsbere: let me know if you spot anything nasty in the final commit (other than the missing "A") ... squashed your working commits since it's all-or-none |
| # | 10:46:26 | tsbere | eeevil: Yea, was just looking over it and noticed the message had a missing A. Not a big deal on that one. |
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| # | 10:47:16 | chirag_ | hi there |
| # | 10:47:28 | chirag_ | i wanted to talk regarding gsoc |
| # | 10:49:06 | tsbere | eeevil: The original description became a bit more invalid, but I can make better docs on some of it for posting places later. |
| # | 10:49:25 | tsbere | chirag_: Ask away |
| # | 10:52:35 | chirag_ | sir i am interested in creating android client for android. |
| # | 10:53:03 | chirag_ | from where should i stRT |
| # | 10:53:10 | chirag_ | Start* |
| # | 10:53:28 | chirag_ | i have worked in java previously |
| # | 10:54:24 | tsbere | Not my area (I am not a mentor, even) but I can provide information previously provided. |
| # | 10:54:43 | tsbere | For starters, from gmcharlt yesterday: to see an example of what an Android app for a library catalog might do, take a look at http://code.google.com/p/kiritakikoha/ |
| # | 10:55:43 | chirag_ | ok thank you |
| # | 10:55:44 | tsbere | And Evergreen uses the opensrf framework, which exposes http access to backend apis. The java currently available expects to talk directly to the backend, which is likely not going to be available for an android app. |
| # | 10:56:41 | tsbere | The staff client as it is currently uses javascript via the http api access for many functions |
| # | 10:57:22 | chirag_ | Should i diretly contact to mentor by the given email id...or go to the mailing list |
| # | 10:57:23 | chirag_ | ? |
| # | 10:58:02 | tsbere | I imagine the mailing list may be a better option in that regard, if only because more developers and other interested parties will see the messages. |
| # | 10:58:38 | chirag_ | thanx for ur help |
| # | 10:59:09 | tsbere | no problem. But now I have to go afk for a few. Good luck. |
| # | 10:59:56 | tsbere | Oh, and eeevil: Nothing beyond the commit message jumped out at me in a quick lookover, so yay. |
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| # | 15:11:14 | Digital_Pioneer | Looks like you've got another taker on the Android app. |
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| # | 15:47:28 | tsbere | Digital_Pioneer: Seems to be a popular potential option. |
| # | 15:47:51 | Digital_Pioneer | tsbere: So you've gotten a lot of interested parties? |
| # | 15:48:18 | tsbere | If by "a lot" you mean "over half that I have seen pop up in irc" then yes. If by "a lot" you mean "more than 2 or 3" then no. |
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| # | 15:49:24 | tsbere | Then again, I could see two different kinds of apps anyway. Patron targeted and staff targeted. Patrons would care about accessing their account, searching for books, placing holds. Staff might care about doing inventory, bookmobile checkins/checkouts, etc. |
| # | 15:50:54 | Digital_Pioneer | Sure. |
| # | 15:51:52 | Digital_Pioneer | Well, from what I'm seeing, the patron-side app shouldn't be too difficult. It looks to be mostly a frontend to the services the server already provides. |
| # | 15:52:18 | tsbere | Staff side would be the same, as the staff client uses the same server interfaces. |
| # | 15:52:40 | Digital_Pioneer | So most of the work there would be putting a nice UI on it, making it feel right to the user, which unfortunately most Android developers don't seem to bother with. |
| # | 15:53:14 | Digital_Pioneer | And I admit, making an app feel natural is as much art as science. It's not to be downplayed. But I believe myself competent for the task. |
| # | 15:53:21 | tsbere | Wouldn't know. My phone is....a phone. |
| # | 15:54:35 | Digital_Pioneer | :D Yeah, I couldn't resist... A smartphone with an FOSS OS... Pure Google branded... Made by HTC, the best phone manufacturer I've seen. I had to have the Nexus One, and I've never regretted it. :) |
| # | 15:54:47 | Digital_Pioneer | And I love doing Android development. It's fun. |
| # | 15:55:29 | tsbere | I have had my phone longer than android phones have been available. |
| # | 15:55:46 | Digital_Pioneer | Sad thing is, with school and everything else, it's tough to find time to do it much, especially when I don't really have anything I really _need_ to write. |
| # | 15:56:01 | Digital_Pioneer | Which is why Evergreen looks like such a great opportunity. |
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| # | 17:30:18 | moodaepo_ | Digital_Pioneer: Did you get a chance to download the developers VM dbs posted? It is now up on the download page (under Other versions of Evergreen software). |
| # | 17:30:47 | Digital_Pioneer | moodaepo_: Ahh, no, hadn't thought about it again. I'll do that. :) |
| # | 17:31:32 | moodaepo_ | Yea didn't think so it's very recent but you seem anxious to finish the summer project before the summer gets here : ) |
| # | 17:31:34 | Digital_Pioneer | moodaepo_: I have been 403'd. |
| # | 17:31:42 | moodaepo_ | oops |
| # | 17:31:55 | moodaepo_ | I didn't check click on it and check, let me see |
| # | 17:32:40 | Digital_Pioneer | I'm anxious to be accepted. :) |
| # | 17:33:38 | moodaepo_ | I don't have access to the server phasefx, dbs and few others do. |
| # | 17:34:52 | moodaepo_ | @later tell dbs Digital_Pioneer reports that the developer's vm you posted does not have the right permissions, when you get a chance. |
| # | 17:34:52 | pinesol` | moodaepo_: The operation succeeded. |
| # | 17:36:44 | Digital_Pioneer | So will the bot give him that message when he next joins the channel? |
| # | 17:36:55 | Digital_Pioneer | Gotta love bots. :) |
| # | 17:37:16 | moodaepo_ | Yes or when he posts a message in the channel. |
| # | 17:37:21 | moodaepo_ | bots++ |
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| # | 17:44:10 | moodaepo_ | @later tell dbs Also an email to the dev list might be good so the students/devs know it's up. Thanks! |
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| # | 18:46:47 | dbs | Digital_Pioneer, moodaepo: dev VM permissions are fixed up now |
| # | 18:47:32 | dbs | combo of 4 hours sleep + VirtualBox creating the image with just 600 for some reason |
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| # | 23:55:19 | mrpeters-islhome | evening all---anyone kickin? |
| # | 23:55:32 | bshum | mrpeters-islhome: Evenin' |
| # | 23:55:36 | mrpeters-islhome | hey buddy |
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