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| # | 00:12:34 | dbs | @later tell csharp can you run "sudo cpan Getopt::Long" on your U8.04 buildslave and let me know so I can kick off a manual rebuild? I think that should resolve the build failures for rel_2_1 / trunk on that machine |
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| # | 04:20:36 | Mark__T | where do I find instruction to compile evergreen from source? |
| # | 04:21:28 | Mark__T | ok, maybe I found |
| # | 05:06:57 | Mark__T | dang, didn't work on this for a long time, didn't recognize that opne-ils.org isn't working for downloads anymore |
| # | 05:09:26 | phasefx | Mark__T: it's not? |
| # | 05:14:06 | Mark__T | oh, I see OpenSRF tarball naming switched to all lowercase |
| # | 05:14:22 | phasefx | oy :) |
| # | 05:16:26 | Mark__T | just decided to work on http://evergreen.rpath.org again |
| # | 05:17:49 | Mark__T | dang, doesn't work that way, how I hate this newish flash ui |
| # | 05:19:15 | Mark__T | http://www.rpath.org/ui/#/appliances?id=http://www.rpath.org/api/products/evergreen |
| # | 05:20:45 | phasefx | coolness |
| # | 05:22:02 | Mark__T | would be even nicer if I were in a position to convince my employer to migrate to evergreen |
| # | 05:22:51 | phasefx | what are you using now? |
| # | 05:23:05 | Mark__T | aleph |
| # | 05:23:17 | Mark__T | soon in conjunction with primo |
| # | 05:24:01 | phasefx | ah, know next to nothing about that one |
| # | 05:37:36 | csharp | @later tell dbs I have now installed Getopt::Long on 8.04 - let me know if you see any other issues. |
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| # | 05:37:53 | Mark__T | dang, we don't have an erlang compiler |
| # | 05:39:51 | Mark__T | any chance OpenSRF works with jabberd 2 too? |
| # | 05:41:53 | Mark__T | or any other jabber server? |
| # | 05:42:01 | phasefx | Mark__T: back in the murky past, it worked with a patched version of jabberd2 I think. xmpp is a standard, so any jabber server should theoretically work. You need to be able to disable offline queing of messages, though |
| # | 05:43:13 | phasefx | the remains of a homegrown jabber server is probably still in the repository, "chopchop", but it's not suitable for production use. too many bugs under load, I think |
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| # | 06:05:17 | Mark__T | trying to build erlang and ejabberd |
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| # | 09:10:08 | dbs | @later tell csharp Yep, that did the trick: http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/buildbot/builders/evergreen-rel_2_1-ubuntu-8.04-x86/builds/1 |
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| # | 09:21:35 | berick | dbs: do you still need a squeeze build slave? |
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| # | 09:22:59 | dbs | berick: http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/buildbot/buildslaves shows that we have a squeeze buildslave for Evergreen, but could use one for OpenSRF |
| # | 09:26:00 | dbs | The Evergreen buildslaves get one version of OpenSRF installed, so all Evergreen testing is performed on top of that; the OpenSRF build slaves can test all OpenSRF versions and branches, so that exercises OpenSRF nicely |
| # | 09:28:34 | berick | dbs: gotcha, thanks. i'll see if there's anything i can do to help.. |
| # | 09:28:38 | berick | get a vm, that is |
| # | 09:29:06 | dbs | sweet. I might try and set up my desktop at home as an opportunistic Fedora slave |
| # | 09:29:41 | gmcharlt gets the crazy thought of setting up a slackware slave, then thinks better of it |
| # | 09:33:47 | Mark__T | getting /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lopensrf |
| # | 09:33:51 | Mark__T | libtool: install: error: relink `./osrf_json_gateway.la' with the above command before installing it |
| # | 09:34:29 | dbs | Mark__T: what version of OpenSRF? |
| # | 09:35:11 | Mark__T | 1.6.2 |
| # | 09:38:01 | Mark__T | isn't it supposed to be in src/libopensrf/ |
| # | 09:38:27 | Mark__T | oh it's in .libs |
| # | 09:38:39 | Mark__T | need to add that to -L |
| # | 09:38:50 | dbs | That... sounds weird |
| # | 09:39:10 | dbs | 1.6.2 compiles on debian, ubuntu, and fedora |
| # | 09:39:37 | dbs | maybe rpath has a very different autoconf/automake setup? |
| # | 09:39:50 | dbs | btw, for tackling rpath again: Mark__T++ |
| # | 09:43:59 | dbs | eeevil: am I crazy (or, how crazy am I), but I committed http://svn.open-ils.org/trac/ILS/changeset/19432/trunk/Open-ILS/src/perlmods/lib/OpenILS/Application/Search/Biblio.pm to fix an ISBN problem; now that no longer works |
| # | 09:44:47 | dbs | did we apply naco_normalize or something around the same time that interacted badly? |
| # | 09:45:17 | dbs attempting to chase down gduimovich's issn problem and cans of worms are raining from the sky |
| # | 09:45:32 | eeevil | dbs: sec... |
| # | 09:45:57 | dbs | eeevil: no prob, consider it a @later |
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| # | 09:49:44 | dbs | eeevil: it's probably just time to cut over to searching identifier|isxn as you suggested 3 weeks ago, where there's a hope of normalizing those target fields sanely. identifier|isbn works nicely |
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| # | 11:03:06 | phasefx can donate his irssi logs to pinesol, but may have missed something with netsplit |
| # | 11:04:09 | tsbere | I think I was on the other side of said split. And I think I have logging on. |
| # | 11:04:29 | tsbere | But who knows if my logs would work |
| # | 11:04:50 | phasefx | in the past I've just shoved stuff in, didn't worry about format consistency |
| # | 11:07:10 | tsbere | Well, a closer look tells me I was wrong about being on the other side of the split from you. |
| # | 11:07:30 | tsbere | Unless you mean from your phasefx2 |
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| # | 11:08:07 | eliasp | hi |
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| # | 11:09:11 | tsbere_ | and apparently I am having connection issues. Great. |
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| # | 11:09:23 | eliasp | I'm just evaluation Evergreen for using it as internal literature database of a company... one feature we need (and couldn't find out whether Everqueen supports it): does Evergreen have some basic DMS functionalities, like: store a PDF directly in Evergreen? |
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| # | 11:11:34 | tsbere | eliasp: Not that I know of |
| # | 11:11:39 | phasefx | eliasp: it does not. You could keep such things in something else and reference them from Evergreen, but it doesn't have any functionality for managing repositories. That said... |
| # | 11:12:13 | phasefx | I think there's something out there that integrates Evergreen with other stuff like repositories. Islandora maybe? |
| # | 11:12:19 | eliasp | phasefx: hmm, ok.. so an external storage is still required... thx for your information... that's actually a little sad, as Evergreen looked just too convincing so far ;-) |
| # | 11:12:32 | eliasp | phasefx: hmm, thx... I'll take a look at that |
| # | 11:12:50 | phasefx | eliasp: external app, at least. could live on the same server, etc. |
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| # | 11:14:15 | bshum | I think that's what was doing with Islandora is using that to manage digital materials and then exposing them via Evergreen tie-in? |
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| # | 11:53:23 | gmcharlt` | yep, #koha is now on OFTC |
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| # | 11:53:46 | tsbere | I would even be willing to see if I can set up a server to host IRC *just* for evergreen. |
| # | 11:54:05 | dbs | I'm personally resistant to moving off of IRC; the number of times we experience problems is pretty damned low, and the barrier to entry is low, and many many projects exist on Freenode |
| # | 11:54:06 | phasefx | I don't find multi-server intuitive in irssi, and I'd miss #code4lib, but.. :) |
| # | 11:54:08 | francisco_ | dbs: so i have to change the configuration in the section? |
| # | 11:54:35 | tsbere | We have some physical hardware we haven't repurposed yet sitting in the server room. I could turn that into a number of things. |
| # | 11:55:35 | dbs | My initial reaction, years ago, to Koha being on their own server was "why the hell do they do that?". but I'm weird |
| # | 11:55:46 | phasefx | it's definitely convenient, when it works (freenode) |
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| # | 11:56:00 | dbs | and it works, what, 99% of the time? |
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| # | 11:56:31 | gmcharlt` | dbs: nitpick, but it wasn't just for #koha; it was just a NZ-based IRC service, reasonably enough |
| # | 11:56:34 | phasefx | not currently, I haven't seen your message in this window yet :) |
| # | 11:57:26 | dbs | francisco_: you need to enable the notification in Admin -> Local Administration -> Notifications / Action Triggers, and run the action_trigger_runner.pl script |
| # | 11:57:32 | phasefx | I'm probably have a lower tolerance threshold than usual today |
| # | 11:57:47 | dbs | phasefx: sure, 1% now |
| # | 11:58:11 | phasefx | it's not facts that matter to me at the moment, it's feeling :) |
| # | 11:58:25 | dbs | Also, I fear that if PDPC can't handle DDOS, how the hell would we handle it on our own? |
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| # | 11:58:44 | dbs | anonymous via openils.org |
| # | 11:59:24 | phasefx | obscurity. and, if we're down, at least we're all down, and not in some weird disjoint universe with multiple time streams (but that's the autistic side of me wanting a canonical chat log) |
| # | 11:59:36 | dbs | I dunno. Hosting stuff ourselves seems like a lot of effort that could be put towards more productive purposes |
| # | 12:00:26 | dbs still successfully avoiding any focus on OCLC reporting |
| # | 12:01:38 | dbs is in conservative curmudgeon mode |
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| # | 12:02:01 | francisco_ | dbs: thanks, im not so good, how can i run the script u said? I mean, what is the complet structure? |
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| # | 12:02:14 | tsbere | dbs: What if someone like me throws a server up and does the basic management. Then you don't have to. |
| # | 12:02:21 | dbs | tsbere: and then you die? |
| # | 12:02:36 | tsbere | dbs: Then hopefully my replacement can read my notes. |
| # | 12:02:43 | phasefx is just curmudgeon :) |
| # | 12:02:50 | dbs | I just hate increasing our bus factor |
| # | 12:05:43 | dbs | gmcharlt: that's a fair nitpick; being ignorant NA-centric that I was, I assumed that any project that wasn't on EFNet or Freenode was suspicious |
| # | 12:06:51 | gmcharlt | dbs: that's isn't the measure of how suspicious Koha is, the real measure is the project's willingness to handle MARC records |
| # | 12:06:54 | gmcharlt | oh |
| # | 12:06:55 | gmcharlt | wait |
| # | 12:07:01 | dbs | hah |
| # | 12:07:01 | gmcharlt | that applies to Evergreen too ;) |
| # | 12:07:11 | dbs | gmcharlt++ |
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| # | 12:09:53 | dbs | apropos of nothing, RHEL-targeting folk might be interested to know that Scientific Linux 6 (RHEL 6 clone-ish) is out |
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| # | 12:14:22 | dbs | berick++ for the opac-tt-poc post |
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| # | 12:14:31 | bradl | hmm, perhaps there needs to be an evergreen chat routlette |
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| # | 12:14:39 | berick | bradl++ |
| # | 12:14:41 | bradl | OH GOD NOT phasefx again |
| # | 12:15:05 | dbs | har |
| # | 12:15:10 | berick | dbs: the developer in me apologizes for the market-y tone |
| # | 12:15:24 | dbs buys buys buys |
| # | 12:15:57 | bradl | yeah, and equinox can advertise on the chat roulette and offer "coupons" |
| # | 12:16:22 | bradl | nevermind, I think I just constructed my own version of hell |
| # | 12:16:25 | dbs | I didn't find it market-y, actually |
| # | 12:18:47 | tsbere | I found it market-y if you assume that the marketing is being done at dev type people. Kindof. |
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| # | 13:01:58 | francisco_ | wich are the steps to coul active the email send?, could someone helpme? |
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| # | 13:03:49 | dbs | francisco_, http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/1.6/draft/html/notifications.html is a start |
| # | 13:05:07 | dbs | francisco_: and http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.0/draft/html/ProcessingActionTriggers.html provides some documentation for running action_trigger_runner.pl |
| # | 13:21:26 | francisco_ | dbs: thanks for your help, i already did what the instructions said and it doesnt work yet |
| # | 13:35:54 | dbs | francisco_: hard to say what the problem is, then. the account needs to have a valid email address, for example; your server needs to be able to send email out; if you've submitted 5 password reset requests for the same user in a 24-hour period, the system won't send any more emails until it drops back down below that threshold... |
| # | 13:36:02 | dbs | francisco_: http://markmail.org/message/isftxovp4uztawch may also be useful |
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| # | 13:37:17 | shopkins | hi, would someone be able to explain how to get ejabberd to run on multiple brick heads? I don't understand how to change ejabberd.cfg for public and private in this situation |
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| # | 13:39:01 | tsbere | shopkins: The main issue at that point is either changing the IP addresses you put for public/private.localhost in the hosts file, or using different DNS names for those two and updating the config files to use them |
| # | 13:39:15 | tsbere | ejabberd should by default not care where the connection is coming from otherwise |
| # | 13:41:33 | dbs | This should get me close to "all bib IDs for a given library that I care about", yeah? "SELECT DISTINCT bre.id FROM biblio.record_entry bre INNER JOIN asset.call_number acn ON acn.record = bre.id WHERE acn.owning_lib = 109 AND acn.deleted IS FALSE and bre.deleted IS FALSE;" |
| # | 13:41:47 | AaronZ-PLS | Is there a good way (using SQL) to link a Circ ID from the action.circulation table to a bill in money.billable.xact and/or payment in money.payment? |
| # | 13:42:32 | dbs | ... might be some outliers where copies were never added, or URIs/copies were deleted without deleting the call number, but probably good enough for hand grenades |
| # | 13:43:25 | dbs | tsbere / shopkins: one ejabberd instance per brick head, no? |
| # | 13:43:30 | francisco_ | dbs: thanks i will try and i hope could see you again to could said what happend, thanks for your help! |
| # | 13:43:54 | AaronZ-PLS | I am looking at a large query so that I can put in a circ ID and get back all checkouts, transits, bills and payments that touched it |
| # | 13:43:56 | dbs doesn't run multiple bricks, but thought that was the recommended approach for multiple bricks |
| # | 13:43:56 | tsbere | dbs: Well.....in theory you can cluster ejabberd so each brick has a set of clustered nodes |
| # | 13:44:10 | tsbere | But one instance per brick head is easier to deal with |
| # | 13:44:24 | bshum | All these splits are confusing :( |
| # | 13:46:59 | shopkins | dbs: yes one ejabberd instance per bick head |
| # | 13:47:54 | dbs | okay, so... I don't think the ejabberd.cfg config needs to be any different than in a single brick case |
| # | 13:48:14 | bshum | shopkins: Depending on how you configure the /etc/hosts file on each brick, instead of pointing to say public.localhost, you would have it point to public.head1 or some other defined name for the head/drones of a single brick. |
| # | 13:48:37 | bshum | And then set the IP path on the drones to point to public.head1 with the head's IP address |
| # | 13:48:44 | bshum | Then in the ejabberd.cfg file |
| # | 13:49:02 | bshum | Have it listen on public.head1, etc. instead of the .localhost variety |
| # | 13:49:30 | tsbere | shopkins: For easiest, least amount of config editing, just put the brick head's external IP in the public.localhost/private.localhost hosts entry, as nothing actually cares if blah.localhost is really local in my experience. |
| # | 13:51:05 | dbs should modify the config docs to use tsbere's suggested public.opensrf / private.opensrf example to avoid the localhost confusion |
| # | 13:52:40 | tsbere | dbs: Another suggestion would be configure option(s) for the jabber domain. Either to replace the end (public.configed and private.configed) or to specify the two pieces as a whole. Then run sed on the example config script with whatever is provided, if any. |
| # | 13:55:27 | tsbere | Would be faster and easier to just change the default examples and config docs to use .opensrf instead of .localhost, though. |
| # | 14:04:33 | tsbere | Ok, interesting. Someone using my person XMPP server just asked if I could install ejabberd-ircd. Apparently allows people to join ejabberd MUC rooms via IRC clients? |
| # | 14:04:42 | tsbere | s/person/personal/ |
| # | 14:10:24 | tsbere wants to slap the person who apparently is using pidgin but doesn't know how to join MUC with it, thus wants to use IRC mode |
| # | 14:11:31 | bshum | Yay Pidgin! |
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| # | 14:25:13 | dbwells | eeevil: I think I may have a small fix for WWW/SuperCat.pm, but want to verify before committing. Let me know when you have a minute, I think it is straightforward. |
| # | 14:25:45 | dbs | dbwells: feel free to share |
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| # | 15:44:03 | dbs | ah, json_query, it's like I have to learn you every time I use you. Usually after I've attempted and failed to get a CStoreEditor search_foo_bar() method to do what I want :) |
| # | 15:44:53 | jeff grins |
| # | 15:45:02 | jeff | is there any other reason for re-learning json_query? :) |
| # | 15:49:55 | dbs | Keeps the brain limber, or so I hear |
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| # | 16:36:15 | moodaepo | How would one export from Evergreen to MARC only the bibs that are new, have been changed/updated or deleted? |
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| # | 16:36:35 | eeevil | moodaepo: since a point in time, you mean? |
| # | 16:36:57 | moodaepo | eeevil: Sure that would work. |
| # | 16:38:32 | moodaepo | I have exported bibs using support-scripts/marc_export but now I'd like to pull on the ones that are new, modified or deleted. |
| # | 16:38:35 | eeevil | moodaepo: report on bibs where edit_date >= $point_in_time, getting just the bib id. feed that to the vandelay exporter or Open-ILS/src/support-scripts/marc_export |
| # | 16:39:21 | eeevil | edit_date is updated at insert, update and delete time (or, I believe that is true ... empirical evidence will tell) |
| # | 16:39:35 | eeevil | so, a select statement or report will give you that |
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| # | 16:42:10 | moodaepo | eeevil: Graci, that's a better idea, just wanted to ask before I started hacking marc_export |
| # | 16:50:26 | tsbere | I find it interesting that microsoft has an IE6 countdown site. |
| # | 16:53:39 | tsbere | Ok, microsoft is doing it wrong. They used bit.ly to create a "short" version of their URL.......that is 3 characters longer than the original. |
| # | 17:04:00 | dbwells | I think I have found a problem in a few config.metabib_field entries. The most important of the two affected rows is subject|complete. The xpath is '//mods32:mods/mods32:subject//text()', but it seems the in-db ingest expects the xpath to always return a node list? Changing this entry to '//mods32:mods/mods32:subject' seems to have the intended effect. |
| # | 17:06:23 | dbwells | identifier|bibcn will need a similar fix, if so. |
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| # | 17:09:36 | dbwells | I am going to bug this on Launchpad for now. |
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| # | 17:20:19 | moodaepo | Should http://eghost/skin/index.xml?r=12345 pull the item with record id 12345 (?) |
| # | 17:21:48 | bshum | moodaepo: Odd URL |
| # | 17:22:09 | tsbere | I should hope it is odd, he simplified it greatly. :P |
| # | 17:22:27 | moodaepo | bshum: Yea what tsbere said : ) |
| # | 17:22:35 | bshum | I think you mean rdetail.xml, right? |
| # | 17:22:49 | bshum | (even in simplified, it helps to point to the right file) |
| # | 17:22:59 | bshum | For record (aka bib) |
| # | 17:23:16 | tsbere | I would assume rdetail myself, yea |
| # | 17:23:34 | moodaepo | bshum++ |
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| # | 17:46:02 | bshum | Happy weekend all :) |
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| # | 18:46:53 | LBA1 | berick, nice note about thew new OPAC plan. FYI, Brian is goin to get that installed on the demo server he's maintaining so people can check it out there. |
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| # | 19:55:11 | eeevil | dbwells: re the indexes, I believe you are incorrect. the intent is to have /all/ the content in one big blob, not individual rows for each node |
| # | 19:57:21 | eeevil | so that you can "and" them together |
| # | 19:59:10 | eeevil | "su: children medicine" where there are two subjects, one for "children" and one for "medicine" ... have to be in the same row for that to work as you'd expect |
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| # | 21:57:01 | dbs | eeevil: dbwells is correct; a quick test shows that out of the box, subject|complete is empty, but once //text() is dropped from the definition all is as it was in 1.6. |
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