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#evergreen Logs for Friday, June 25th, 2010

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#00:06:29dbsyeppers :)
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#00:36:51MelissaLhi! trying to hack the opac dynamic api
#00:40:36jeffgreetings.
#00:41:04MelissaLhi!
#00:43:13MelissaLdo you have ideas re:showing both brnch & system copies in opac kiosk but not consortium copies?
#00:49:24jeffhrm. not something i've tried before.
#00:50:17jeffdo you want to display system and branch copies by default, or just have the usual option to show them, and you want to NOT show the consortium copies?
#00:50:45jeffand by "consortium copies", i'm guessing you mean 'copies at other branches in other systems than the one currently being searched'?
#00:51:14MelissaLyes!
#00:51:58MelissaLI could hack the string to search by the library but if no copies in branch, no consortium copies displayed
#00:53:07MelissaLtrying to make more relevant patron search when in the branch
#00:57:21jeffhow far have you gotten, or are you just starting?
#01:05:38MelissaLi was able to create the location but i get 0 results if no copies at branch
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#01:08:01jeffyou might get some additional feedback if you post to the open-ils-dev list describing exactly what you want and where you're at so far.
#01:08:17jeffmost folk tonight are off sleeping.
#01:08:41MelissaLyes. i'm in pst time
#01:09:18jeff checks the opac 'normal' behavior
#01:18:12jeffif i search 'local library system' for a title, by default after clicking on that title i see all volumes at all branches at that system level.
#01:18:32jeffwhich part do you want to change?
#01:18:55MelissaLright. i'm tryingyo see it before you click on the title
#01:19:08jeffah
#01:24:29MelissaLit's like when you have a branch specified in your acct preference but you still see system copies
#01:25:04MelissaLbut no log in because in library pacs
#01:54:04MelissaLciao!
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#10:22:14granitizeHey - Anybody home to help with regex_replace query?
#10:41:59moodaepogranitize: Go ahead and ask if someone knows they might answer
#10:42:36miker_grabbing 0136
#10:48:16granitizeOK
#10:49:03granitizeTrying to do a regex_replace update query on biblio.record_entry.marc.
#10:49:36granitizeDuplicate proxy prefixes. I think I need to escape the ? but I'm a regex moron.
#10:49:46granitizeUPDATE biblio.record_entry
#10:49:46granitizeSET marc = REGEXP_REPLACE(marc,'http://rlproxy.upei.ca/login\?url=http://rlproxy.upei.ca/login\?url=','http://rlproxy.upei.ca/login?url=') WHERE marc LIKE '%http://rlproxy.upei.ca/login?url=http://rlproxy.upei.ca/login?url=http://www3.interscience.wiley.com%' AND tcn_value = 353013;
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#10:50:53granitizeSeems to match the correct number of records (when I don't limit it to one record) but doesn't make the change.
#10:53:30moodaepogranitize: Could you paste your regex attempt in http://paste.lisp.org/new/evergreen
#10:54:19granitizeThanks Anoop... didn't know about that.
#10:54:44senatorgranitize: instead of regexp_replace(), can you try just plain replace(), removing the backslashes from in front of the question marks in the second argument?
#10:54:56lisppasteGranitize pasted "regex_replace" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/111850
#10:55:01senatoryou may not need the power of regular expressions for this, and that might do what you need more easily
#10:56:43granitizesenator: Thanks - give it a try.
#10:57:47moodaepogranitize: Yea I should have said "You could" instead of "Could you" : )
#10:59:24lisppastemiker_ annotated #111850 "senator's suggestion is right on" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/111850#1
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#11:04:02miker_@later tell dbs I'm rethinking the identifier|arcn index bit ... a simple map table populated by the ingest trigger (or a function called from that), and an internal_flag to en/dis-able that, would be safer (can't accidentally remove the index def or break the normalization) and faster (2 integer index, no text casting) ... and not much more work. thoughts?
#11:04:02pinesolmiker_: The operation succeeded.
#11:05:31dbsmap_table++
#11:05:42dbslike a real relational database :)
#11:13:51miker_k. grabbing 0317
#11:14:46dbs ponders for a second whether there's any implication for biblio.fts, then preps for heading out for the afternoon
#11:48:18miker_grabbing 0318
#12:13:59granitizemiker_, moodaepo, senator: Thanks
#12:14:56moodaepogranitize: I didn't do anything but good to know it worked out.
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#12:16:10moodaepoWhich library are you with? Might want to update this page with your info > http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=community:irc_channel
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#13:38:02granitizeCan I officially request edit rights on http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=community:irc_channel as pre moodeapo? userID fgjohnson.
#13:38:41miker_granitize: if you were anyone but grant ... er, I mean, sure! (I'll see if I have rights)
#13:40:29granitizeheh
#13:41:46miker_hrm... maybe I don't understnad how the wiki permissions work ... you should have that permission when you're logged in
#13:42:18granitizewell... perhaps I don't understand where to click to edit! :-)
#13:42:23miker_default rule, all users, upload permission
#13:42:43miker_(upload permission includes read, edit and create)
#13:43:34granitizeI can Show pagesource, see old revisions, subscribe update, logout index.
#13:45:00miker_no [Edit this page] button at the top left?
#13:46:02miker_dbs: not sure if you're still there ... I'm tempted to put a trigger on authority.record_entry to cause cascading updates based on my earlier-committed stored procs. thoughts, if you're there
#13:50:55granitizemiker_: just [[http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=community:irc_channel&do=backlink]]
#13:51:18granitizeno worries.
#14:13:50gmcharltmiker_: flip bib headings?
#14:14:15gmcharlt(regarding the trigger on are)
#14:14:58gmcharltsome libraries would go for that, but others might think it's a little *too* much automation
#14:15:20gmcharltand would prefer to review a list of the headings changes first, then let them be applied to bib records
#14:16:24miker_gmcharlt: yes, flip bib headings. it should, of course, be controlled (heh) by a setting
#14:16:50gmcharltright, but v2 would be need to be more than just a boolean
#14:17:10gmcharltI suggest having the trigger log heading changes to a table
#14:17:20gmcharltfull-auto mode could also flip the bibs
#14:17:43miker_well, strictly speaking, they're recorded to the audit table ;)
#14:17:46gmcharltsemi-auto would (possibly in the future) have a stff client interface to let the catalogers review and approve the changes
#14:18:11gmcharltI suggest having the trigger log heading changes to a table in a *useful* fashion ;)
#14:18:16miker_have a "authority record X was changed at time Y, but not propogated" table would be good
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#14:23:41parserversion 1.6.1 / 1.6.0.5 - will they have the new "My Account" password reminder? any approx date for 'instructionized' download version avail?
#14:24:48phasefxmiker_: gmcharlt: would love to see an exposed versioning system for bibs and auths, let folks see diffs, revert changes, etc.
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#14:25:55Dyrconaphasefx: some people around here would like to see that, too.
#14:26:20phasefxparser: what's the password reminder?
#14:26:41phasefxlike password hints?
#14:27:27gmcharltphasefx: most of the bits and pieces to do that are in place, if you put diffs aside for the moment; adding a couple indexes and reusing some staff client widgets would get you a list of previous record versions + revert
#14:28:15phasefxgmcharlt: using an audit table?
#14:28:21gmcharltyes
#14:28:50parserI recall dbs showing demo @ EG10 to allow patrons to get passwd reset and sent by email from the My Account page
#14:30:46miker_phasefx: that's in 1.6.1 (of which 1.6.1.1 is now cut, though not instructionized (nice term))
#14:30:49miker_er
#14:30:56phasefxcool deal
#14:30:56miker_sorry, parser, not phasefx
#14:31:22miker_phasefx: what you and gmcharlt are discussing is /not/ in 1.6.1 ;)
#14:31:43miker_phasefx: however, the side-by-side editor stuff, that could be reused
#14:31:49parsermiker_ : I hooked the term from you I thought!
#14:32:10miker_and once dbs has created the authority version of the marc editor ... ;)
#14:32:19miker_parser: hrm, perhaps :)
#14:38:42parserspotted at the G8/G20 summit: placard waving librarians with signs "we want 1.6.1.1 now" & chanting "Free the upgrades dot 1 dot 1" !
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#14:47:33moodaepomiker_: I'd "instructionized*" (patent pending) 1.6.0.5 based on 1.6.0.4, I should probably change that to 1.6.0.6? or make a new one in addition to 1.6.0.5. Also I'm not sure what the directions would be for 1.6.1.0 and 1.6.1.1
#14:53:20miker_moodaepo: if you're feeling saucy, in addition to would be best, I think. instructions for 1.6.1.x are basically the same as 1.6.0.x (well, not basically, completely, excepting version numbers and the exact name of the upgrade scripts)
#14:53:43miker_parser: heh
#14:54:55moodaepomiker_: and the progression would be 1.6.0.4 > 1.6.0.5 > 1.6.0.6 & 1.6.0.4 > 1.6.1.0 > 1.6.1.1 ?
#14:55:45miker_moodaepo: indeed
#14:56:22moodaepobtw are you at ALA? Wonder how many people are showing up at the EG meetup.
#15:01:39miker_moodaepo: I'm not
#15:01:53miker_gmcharlt is, but I think he's on stage ATM
#15:02:40parsermiker_: joker attempt at humour - just eager to get latest upgrade here since I've got a bunch of customizations I'd like to have completed b/f leaving on vacation
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#15:04:50parserbtw - georss support for EG @ NRCan Library now completed (xslt) - will write up some documentation notes and submit for review, etc. first week of July.
#15:07:25phasefxparser++
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#22:09:32dbsUpdated install instructions for 1.6.0.6
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#23:15:23dbshttp://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=feature_list_1_6_0 is all spiffy now, too (added 1.6.0.4, 1.6.0.5, and 1.6.0.6 summaries)
#23:22:22phasefxdbs++
#23:24:58dbs1.6.1.0/1.6.1.1 still need to be described, but I think we should get an announcement about 1.6.0.6 out as a security release ASAP
#23:25:21dbsLet's hope that it installs cleanly :)
#23:25:56phasefxmmm
#23:37:56jeffalso, a "here's the recommended method of applying JUST the security patch" would be helpful, as it can be done (in some (most?) environments) mid-day, and should be done (again) ASAP.
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