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| # | 09:10:01 | dbs yawns back at jeff |
| # | 09:13:26 | dbs | argh, I can't post comments / corrections to http://evergreen2010notes.blogspot.com/2010/04/trip-report.html |
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| # | 09:25:17 | StephenGWills | query: where is the timeout that says you can walk away from EG client for 5 hours and it will not time out? |
| # | 09:25:35 | StephenGWills | is that in _core.xml? |
| # | 09:26:14 | StephenGWills | router->transport->connect_timeout? |
| # | 09:26:45 | StephenGWills | bump and restart svcs? |
| # | 09:27:08 | jeff | StephenGWills: it is an org unit setting. |
| # | 09:27:20 | jeff | let me find it... |
| # | 09:28:46 | bshum | It's in the library settings. |
| # | 09:29:01 | bshum | Admin --> Local Administration --> Library Settings |
| # | 09:29:18 | jeff | "Staff Login Inactivity Timeout (in seconds)" |
| # | 09:29:55 | bshum | *library settings editor, actually |
| # | 09:31:20 | StephenGWills | (jeff && ben)++ |
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| # | 09:52:10 | dbs | phasefx: heh, were you writing your doc hackfest response at the same time I was? |
| # | 09:53:23 | phasefx | dbs: har, probably so <reads> |
| # | 09:56:33 | jeff | esi folk: your email is still auto-appending a "please join us in grand rapids" sig :) |
| # | 09:57:09 | dbs | "Please travel back in time to the halcyon days of Grand Rapids 2010!" |
| # | 09:57:11 | phasefx | jeff: gracias. I think mine is hardcoded, but will check the auto-appending |
| # | 09:57:20 | jeff | k. i only noticed it on yours. |
| # | 09:58:44 | gmcharlt` | dbs: well, the conference was so good that we want to invite everybody to have it again right away |
| # | 09:59:25 | phasefx | it's like keeping your Vote for this Candidate bumper stickers up :) |
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| # | 10:13:06 | jeff | two patrons both with a title hold on the same title. two available copies. both copies show in the holds pull list. different pickup libraries. |
| # | 10:13:14 | jeff | (no funky patches in the mix yet) |
| # | 10:13:38 | jeff | scan the barcode of the item targeted for patron1 for pickup at a remote lib... captures for patron2 for pickup at local lib. |
| # | 10:14:03 | jeff | i thought that capture always favored the currently targeted copy, but it appears i was wrong. |
| # | 10:16:55 | bshum | jeff: I think that's cause it's fulfilling the hold for pickup locations before transiting items it doesn't need to. Not sure where the logic for that is though. |
| # | 10:18:33 | jeff | i think if i had the opportunistic hold capture delay (stall?) set, it would behave as i was originally expecting. |
| # | 10:18:46 | sylvar | phasefx: I have a reason for keeping my Obama '08 sticker up. Two, really. One is that I still like Obama '08 better than the current version, and the other is that the damn thing won't come off. |
| # | 10:19:25 | jeff | bshum: but you are correct. currently for (at least) opportunistic hold capture at checkin, the system always captures for holds based on proximity first, so holds for pickup at the checkin library are always captured first. |
| # | 10:19:47 | dbs | sylvar: if your vehicle is anything like dmcmorris' van was a few years back, the sticker might be integral to the structure of the thing |
| # | 10:19:50 | jeff | bshum: i'm testing a patch that changes that, so that holds are captured with request time given first priority. |
| # | 10:20:08 | bshum | jeff: Ah, neat :) |
| # | 10:21:07 | sylvar | dbs: no, I can differentiate between sticker and vehicle |
| # | 10:23:17 | bshum | jeff: We have hold stalling set for 5 days in our system, but with only two libraries currently live there's not a whole lot of material going back and forth to fully test out the events. Long term though, I know that our group is looking at seeing how to manipulate holds in other ways. |
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| # | 10:44:07 | lisppaste3 | moodaepo annotated #97896 "Line 156 - s/INTO TABLE/INTO/ (I think)" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/97896#2 |
| # | 10:44:14 | moodaepo | dbs: ugh found another typo in the 03-04 upgrade script ^^ |
| # | 10:46:00 | dbs | moodaepo: looks like it. wheeeeeee |
| # | 10:52:44 | dbs | moodaepo: okay, uploaded another 1.6.0.4 to evergreen-ils.org, should you feel the urge to test it out |
| # | 11:02:36 | moodaepo | dbs++ # 1.6.0.4 install is finally free of issues |
| # | 11:02:51 | dbs | moodaepo++ # for sticking with it |
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| # | 11:11:54 | _dkyle_ | jeff: Have you thought any about code for the other hold ideas we talked about at the conference? |
| # | 11:14:04 | _dkyle_ | jeff:I just looked at the fifo patch and it seems the next_hold sub could be used for the "fill a hold at home after a certain time period" idea, if passed in a ou - the $here var you have commented out? |
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| # | 11:45:13 | moodaepo | miker_: no big woof but br16283 has a typo "seials-integration" |
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| # | 12:05:20 | jeff | _dkyle_: i'm working on sending age hold protected items home, on giving priority to holds for pickup at the circ lib of them item, and for "homesick" copies that go home if 1) there is an unfulfilled hold there and 2) it hasn't been home in X time |
| # | 12:05:36 | jeff | that last part is either computationally expensive or requires a schema change. |
| # | 12:05:59 | jeff | so "always give priority to holds for pickup at the copy's circ lib" might be simpler and accomplish almost the same goal. |
| # | 12:06:16 | jeff | i'm trying to figure out how we could measure these experiments. not sure yet. |
| # | 12:15:31 | _dkyle_ | jeff: is the "homesick" copies really much more complicated than 'select max(checkin_time) < now() - interval 'ou_setting_value' from action.circulation where target_copy=$cpid and checkin_lib=$cp-circ_lib' ? |
| # | 12:23:00 | jeff | well, when you put it that way... ;-) |
| # | 12:23:10 | _dkyle_ | jeff: I'm working on some homesick code myself, I'll email what I've got later today to see how it jives with what you've got |
| # | 12:23:32 | jeff | all i meant by "computationally expensive" is that it's more of a database query than just consulting a "last home checkin" value on the copy |
| # | 12:24:03 | jeff | sounds good! |
| # | 12:24:58 | jeff | but for some reason i was thinking you'd have to iterate over circs to find/count those meeting certain criteria. as you pointed out, that's a task for the database! |
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| # | 19:11:44 | Casey | Afternoon! |
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| # | 20:25:42 | jamesrf | http://github.com/sitka/evergreen/graphs/impact |
| # | 20:25:48 | jamesrf | kinda neat |
| # | 20:49:45 | phasefx | my commit is like, a rollercoaster baby baby |
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| # | 22:42:00 | berick | jeff: careful, it might look back |
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