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| # | 10:00:59 | StephenGWills | Anyone with experience (docs?) migrating Pg8.2 database to Pg8.3? This tsearch2 thingy is turning into a timesink. (i heard Sitka might have done this?) |
| # | 10:14:44 | moodaepo | StephenGWills: I'm sure you checked out the same links already, a google search for just "tsearch2.so" brings up chatter about upgrading to 8.3 from 8.2/8.1. I moved from 8.3 to 8.4 which wasn't as big a deal on our test machine. |
| # | 10:16:51 | StephenGWills | yeah, I |
| # | 10:17:24 | StephenGWills | I'm all over google, of course. Robert at Mohawk crashed into this same issue back in December. |
| # | 10:18:37 | StephenGWills | I'd like to solve it but my managers may decide to drop back to 8.2 and let someone else solve it :( |
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| # | 11:52:04 | dbs_road | hrm. applied the "edit due date" patch yesterday to maintain the current time on edited due dates, now people get an invalid date format exception returned from open-ils.circ when they try to edit a due date |
| # | 11:52:57 | dbs_road | To wit: Call to [open-ils.circ.circulation.due_date.update] failed for session [1268412738.778119.126841273825497], thread trace [1]:\nInvalid date format: 1 |
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| # | 11:54:33 | dbs_road | applied patch was http://svn.open-ils.org/trac/ILS/changeset/15779 |
| # | 11:57:47 | miker_ | dbs_road: I will address this |
| # | 11:57:50 | miker_ | now |
| # | 11:58:17 | dbs_road | miker_: cool, I'm poking too |
| # | 11:58:45 | miker_ | hrm.. best place to fix this will be in cle[a]nse_ISO, I think |
| # | 11:59:03 | dbs_road | crap, that's the problem |
| # | 11:59:10 | dbs_road | there's a cleanse_ISO call |
| # | 11:59:32 | miker_ | well, we need it, but we should fail on date-only |
| # | 11:59:39 | dbs_road | in 1.6.0, we need clense |
| # | 11:59:41 | dbs_road | heh |
| # | 12:00:02 | miker_ | hrm... thought I caught those.. arg |
| # | 12:00:31 | gmcharlt | heh |
| # | 12:00:33 | dbs_road | perhaps we should backport the cleanse/clense alias to 1.6.0 too. sorry |
| # | 12:00:49 | gmcharlt | there's a persistant misspelling in Koha (wthdrawn) that I will fix in 3.4 IF IT KILLS ME! |
| # | 12:01:12 | dbs_road | yep, that did the trick |
| # | 12:01:27 | miker_ | cool... ok, I'll kill that in 1.6[.0] |
| # | 12:02:03 | dbs_road | If we add the alias, it will probably prevent us some further grief |
| # | 12:02:25 | miker_ | I thought I did... if not, I will |
| # | 12:04:36 | miker_ | dbs_road: only in 1.6.0 ... odd |
| # | 12:04:58 | miker_ | well... 1.6 uses clense everywhere |
| # | 12:05:24 | miker_ | yeah, trunk opensrf has the alias |
| # | 12:05:27 | dbs_road | right, just thinking of future backports, but not a big deal |
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| # | 12:06:28 | miker_ | adding the alias to 1.2 |
| # | 12:07:02 | miker_ | done |
| # | 12:07:03 | dbs_road | continuing my laptop idiocy, I left my charger at home (argh) |
| # | 12:07:59 | atz | look for a dell/apple/whatev/ store in your area |
| # | 12:08:45 | atz | assuming you're not in Cody, WY or something |
| # | 12:15:25 | dbs_road | atz: heh - midland, ON is pretty much that :) but no big deal, I'm supposed to be on vacation this weekend anyway; using parental computer (Windows 7!) |
| # | 12:15:36 | dbs_road | it BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNs |
| # | 12:16:11 | dbs_road | the Staff Client, btw, would not install in Program Files; had to point it at C:\Evergreen Staff Client\ - not sure if that's a known issue |
| # | 12:16:36 | dbs_road | miker_++ |
| # | 12:16:39 | dbs_road | @karma miker_ |
| # | 12:16:39 | pinesol | dbs_road: Karma for "miker_" has been increased 112 times and decreased 4 times for a total karma of 108. |
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| # | 12:22:05 | atz | dbs_road: yeah, installation was a bitch on vista also... ended up installing in userspace |
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| # | 12:29:10 | atz | Of course it's because we expect to be able to write to the installed program directory |
| # | 12:29:24 | atz | which is obviously bad practice |
| # | 12:30:20 | dbs_road | Yeah. It's weird the Nullsoft installer didn't prompt for admin permissions before installing, unlike putty and gvim and a few other apps that I installed just prior |
| # | 12:30:39 | dbs_road | (Sorry about the weird stuff on your computer now, 'rents!) |
| # | 12:30:57 | atz | bad practice on both windows and linux, notably |
| # | 12:32:20 | jeff | in our environment, we only encourage it... because we set open-ils.write_in_user_chrome_directory to false |
| # | 12:33:28 | jeff | i think %allusersprofile% is where it "should" go in our case. |
| # | 12:33:41 | jeff | for "shared read/write" |
| # | 12:34:07 | jeff | (our evergreen ws_name/etc are specific to a machine, not a user) |
| # | 12:34:32 | dbs_road | maybe a newer version of NSIS resolves the permission thingy (but god the release notes formatting at http://nsis.sourceforge.net makes ours look awesome) |
| # | 12:34:39 | jeff | we're not yet using NSIS |
| # | 12:34:47 | jeff | i've only voiced an interest in it. |
| # | 12:35:04 | jeff | the current installers use innosetup |
| # | 12:35:14 | dbs_road | ah, there we go: http://sourceforge.net/news/?group_id=22049 |
| # | 12:35:37 | dbs_road | NSIS 2.45 is released. This long overdue version adds support for Windows 7... |
| # | 12:36:12 | jeff | i'll give it some kicking on vista/win7 |
| # | 12:38:15 | dbs_road blithely ignores Nullsoft/Innosetup distinctions... windows? what? |
| # | 12:40:40 | senator is in his second job where he gets to use linux all day, and he *loves* it. |
| # | 12:44:29 | dbs_road | senator: this is also your last job, okay? senator + evergreen = forever :) |
| # | 12:44:44 | berick | dbs_road++ |
| # | 12:45:27 | dbs_road | senator: now get those debian, fedora, and rhel packages together pronto! :) |
| # | 12:45:39 | berick | senator: i'm gonna need you to come in on sunday and port opensrf-c to windows, nnkay? |
| # | 12:47:19 | senator | hehe |
| # | 12:48:16 | gmcharlt | there happens to be fix for it rel_1_6_0 |
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| # | 12:48:52 | gmcharlt | oops, sorry for non-sequitor |
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| # | 12:55:27 | bshum | Is there any way to remove the "local catalog" from the z39.50 target list in the import from z39.50 display in the staff client? |
| # | 12:56:14 | dbs_road | bshum: I think you would have to edit z3950.js to hide it |
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| # | 12:57:35 | bshum | dbs_road: Thanks, I'll take a look at the file and see what I can see. |
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| # | 13:02:16 | dbs_road | bshum: actually, maybe set hidden="true" in the <row> element of http://svn.open-ils.org/trac/ILS/browser/branches/rel_1_6_0/Open-ILS/xul/staff_client/server/cat/z3950.xul#L150 |
| # | 13:02:36 | dbs_road | (which would be /openils/var/web/xul/server/cat/z3950.xul) |
| # | 13:03:14 | bshum | Ah, and that would be why deleting it was bad. Putting hidden='true' always seems to work out better. |
| # | 13:03:42 | bshum | Thanks dbs_road :) |
| # | 13:04:16 | dbs_road laughs at the EG2010 email today; first one says "Hey, you were at EG 2009, you should register for 2010!" and second advertises my presense at the developer's roundtable :) |
| # | 13:04:37 | dbs_road does still need to register. one of these days |
| # | 13:07:14 | gmcharlt | dbs_road: we'll make you do your developer talk on the street if you don't register ;) |
| # | 13:07:34 | dbs_road | developer panhandling session |
| # | 13:11:07 | dbs_road | gmcharlt: I think you'll find conflicts with low-integer barcodes in our database, btw |
| # | 13:11:27 | gmcharlt | dbs_road: I'm guessed as much; prefixes it is, then |
| # | 13:11:40 | dbs_road | accession numbers as barcodes always sounds like a good idea |
| # | 13:12:06 | gmcharlt | it *is* a good idea - if you never join a shared database :) |
| # | 13:13:02 | dbs_road | Shouldn't OCLC oversee assignment of barcode ranges globally for a modest fee? heh. |
| # | 13:13:20 | gmcharlt | $0.40 per barcode, no doubt |
| # | 13:13:58 | gmcharlt | back to the specific case, is anybody doing that within Conifer? |
| # | 13:14:58 | dbs_road | gmcharlt: yes, I had assigned the barcode range starting with 00025 to STJCGH waaay back |
| # | 13:15:05 | gmcharlt | cool |
| # | 13:15:28 | dbs_road | (14-digits, natch) |
| # | 13:20:33 | jeff | i wonder how hard it would be to alert on checkin if checking in an item with a circ lib outside of 'range here' |
| # | 13:20:57 | jeff | probably slow things down a bit |
| # | 13:21:30 | miker_ | dbs_road++ # may the shwartz be with you |
| # | 13:21:33 | jeff | better to have a weaker barcode check in the client... since in most cases it's also a barcode that "doesn't look like it's from around these parts" :P |
| # | 13:21:41 | dbs_road | heheh |
| # | 13:22:11 | dbs_road | yeah, we had a bunch of reports of bad/incorrect barcode scans on Wednesday that people wondered if it was due to the upgrade. |
| # | 13:23:04 | miker_ | dbs_road: no more mis-scans than usual ... people just notice more when they know "something changed" |
| # | 13:23:11 | dbs_road | miker_: oh, I'm sure |
| # | 13:24:02 | dbs_road | voodoo. you mean the staff client didn't corrupt the barcode scanner firmware? |
| # | 13:30:55 | jeff | one of our 3M check-in stations mis-scans terribly after they replaced the head (not after an evergreen update ;) |
| # | 13:31:57 | jeff | there's a library in the consortium who has 4-5 digit barcodes, and we have a standing ticket for "mis-scan checked in your item again" |
| # | 13:36:27 | jeff | 3M never really accepted the fact that the scanner head was in need of re-programming. |
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| # | 14:20:47 | jamesrf | hey quick question, what does it mean is there's a star beside an OpenSRF process in the ps aux output? |
| # | 14:22:56 | miker_ | jamesrf: that it's actively responding to a request |
| # | 14:23:06 | miker_ | or it's a zombie |
| # | 14:23:11 | miker_ | or stuck and spinning |
| # | 14:23:12 | jamesrf | it's open-ils.trigger |
| # | 14:23:22 | miker_ | oh, yeah, it's probably just doing stuff |
| # | 14:23:31 | miker_ | cpu % non-trivial? |
| # | 14:24:57 | jamesrf | yes like 3-6% on the ones with stars, 0ish on the ones without |
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| # | 14:28:14 | miker_ | yep ... that's "I'm working" |
| # | 14:30:16 | jamesrf | yay |
| # | 14:30:18 | jamesrf | miker++ |
| # | 14:31:25 | dbs_road puts hand to heart and pledges to get triggers running... next week |
| # | 14:32:38 | dbs_road | Are negative interval offsets allowed (for the purposes of pre-overdue notices)? |
| # | 14:34:43 | miker_ | dbs_road: yip |
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| # | 14:35:16 | StephenGWills | in the docs for upgrading a system it says that as opensrf one should sudo eg_db_config.pl is there a reason no to do that step as root? |
| # | 14:35:27 | StephenGWills | not* |
| # | 14:37:25 | dbs_road | probably just a consistency slip-up: sudo = root |
| # | 14:40:48 | StephenGWills | nod. on my n00b path, following the instructions, we tell folk to create opensrf with useradd -m -s opensrf and we never tell em how to add opensrf to the sudoers, then we tell em to sudo and it fails. |
| # | 14:40:52 | StephenGWills | just being anal. :) |
| # | 14:41:22 | dbs_road | right, and opensrf probably shouldn't be added to sudoers |
| # | 14:42:24 | atz | it has to be, for the update scripts to succeed |
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| # | 14:42:47 | dbs_road | no, you can just run the script as root |
| # | 14:42:50 | StephenGWills | i just wanted to make sure there wasn't some magic path thing going on that was a none documented side effect of being a sudo'ed opensrf instead of root |
| # | 14:42:55 | StephenGWills | ok |
| # | 14:43:27 | dbs_road | I have never added opensrf to sudoers, on any system or image |
| # | 14:43:30 | jeff | StephenGWills: there could be, because "sudo blah" preserves the original user's $HOME/etc, but i don't think there is in this case. |
| # | 14:43:39 | atz | dbs_road: true... only because the script is paranoid and chowns everything itself |
| # | 14:44:15 | jeff | atz: are you referring to the database upgrade script, or the "install/upgrade evergreen for me" convenience script? |
| # | 14:44:29 | atz | build/tools/update.sh |
| # | 14:44:38 | atz | so neither |
| # | 14:44:50 | dbs_road | heh, I've never run that script :) |
| # | 14:44:56 | dbs_road | that's for trunk? |
| # | 14:45:15 | atz | it's been around for a few months |
| # | 14:45:37 | jeff | build/tools/update.sh was what i was thinking when i said the convenience script above... now i'm wondering if there's a third script you were thinking i meant. ;-) |
| # | 14:45:50 | dbs_road | I meant eg_db_config.pl |
| # | 14:45:51 | StephenGWills | atz: you wouldn't happen to have a build/tools/upgradeTo1.6.0.3butDropPgTo8.2.sh would you? *g* |
| # | 14:46:07 | dbs_road | which was what StephenGWills originally mentioned |
| # | 14:46:15 | atz | hah... no luck |
| # | 14:46:31 | StephenGWills | nod I was talking about dg_db_config.pl |
| # | 14:46:37 | atz | 8.3 or *explode* |
| # | 14:46:46 | StephenGWills | part of my 3 steps forward, 20 steps back plan. :) |
| # | 14:47:46 | StephenGWills | the powers that be dictated a drop to 8.2 first, then when the libs are online, I can go back to the 8.3 problem :( |
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| # | 14:57:33 | dbs_road | bye folks, have a good weekend |
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