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| # | 09:05:43 | dbs | so how's that 1.6.0.0 release looking? :) |
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| # | 09:09:01 | phasefx_ | dbs: are you guys using a custom client or the 1.6.0.0 client? |
| # | 09:10:48 | dbs | phasefx: custom, man |
| # | 09:10:56 | phasefx_ | a 1.9 xulrunner? |
| # | 09:11:09 | dbs | Conifer_2009_07_27 to give you an idea of when we cut the release |
| # | 09:11:26 | dbs | must be |
| # | 09:12:45 | dbs fires up the virtual image to find out |
| # | 09:13:32 | phasefx_ | some printers aren't working with xr1.9, and there's a harmless error in some cases when going from the 1.4 client to the 1.6 client (where the 1.6 client is trying to access locally stored data involving printing). Not much I can do with the first one except file a mozilla bug when I get more details; I'm going to poke on the latter some |
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| # | 09:17:22 | dbs | nope, 1.8.1.3 it looks like. hmm |
| # | 09:18:04 | phasefx_ | I'd expect for some things to be broken in 1.6 against a 1.8xr, but I can't think of anything specific |
| # | 09:18:59 | dbs | nothing that people have yelled at me about, at least |
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| # | 09:19:37 | dbs | but then - if you backported a bunch of features etc after July 27, then we wouldn't be hitting it yet |
| # | 09:20:04 | dbs | July 27... wasn't that, like, 4 months ago? heh |
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| # | 09:50:51 | dbs | oh yay, we're actually at 1.9.0.7 |
| # | 09:50:51 | zed2 | if I want to add a couple of new config.identification_type fields do I just add them directly to the database? or is there a way through the interface? |
| # | 09:51:19 | zed2 | When I create new config.identification_type fields, is there anything else I need to worry about? |
| # | 09:51:23 | dbs | You can definitely add them directly to the database |
| # | 09:51:40 | zed2 | thanks |
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| # | 13:00:52 | mrpeters-isl | gmcharlt: ping? |
| # | 13:08:06 | anoopa | Combined EG 1.4.0.7 to 1.6.0.0 and PostgreSQL 8.2 to 8.3 upgrade works except I think still see the launchpad bug I entered last week > https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/474830 |
| # | 13:10:03 | anoopa | s/I think still see/I think I still have/ |
| # | 13:13:46 | lisppaste3 | mrpeters-isl pasted "SQL for gmcharlt" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/90047 |
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| # | 13:23:06 | dbs | anoopa: this won't be any consolation, but when I started digging into permissions ages ago, the response I got was that the out-of-the-box default permissions weren't expected to be complete / usable |
| # | 13:24:08 | dbs | so... there's definitely some work to do on that front if we want to get there (which would be a reasonable goal, IMHO, as long as there aren't endless "What? Circulators have overrides by default?" vs. "What? Circulators don't have overrides by default?" threads |
| # | 13:24:26 | anoopa | dbs: I think the problem was that we added new permissions to perm_list if one doesn't do that then the upgrade 'should' be ok (I think) |
| # | 13:25:29 | dbs | well, perm_list just reflects the permissions that are required by pcrud or hard-coded at the service level |
| # | 13:25:39 | anoopa | Not sure if I am explaining the issue correctly : ) |
| # | 13:27:32 | dbs | New permissions were required by pcrud or at the service level, were added to perm_list, but weren't added to the perm_grp_map? |
| # | 13:29:11 | anoopa | dbs correct |
| # | 13:29:56 | miker_ | I've been thinking about perms a bit too, and I think the first step is getting rid of the surrogate key on permission.perm_list ... that requires that all perms have reasonable description fields |
| # | 13:30:33 | dbs | miker_++ # natural keys!!! :) |
| # | 13:30:54 | miker_ | well, natural keys where they're more good than pain |
| # | 13:32:16 | miker_ | and ppl.code is one such spot |
| # | 13:34:47 | anoopa | So in 1.4 we added a group_application.user.staff.supercirc which we thought we needed, well that threw off the ids in perm_list |
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| # | 14:06:14 | phasefx_ | mrpeters-isl: there's a patch for the load_settings error, http://svn.open-ils.org/trac/ILS/changeset/14847 User action is still needed when the triggering condition occurs, however. It'll be in the official 1.6.0.0 when that's released |
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| # | 14:11:50 | mrpeters-isl | phasefx_: cool! |
| # | 14:12:37 | mrpeters-isl | love the warning |
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| # | 14:12:50 | mrpeters-isl | will help alot to not be mid transaction and find out you need to reconfigure, angering the patron :) |
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| # | 16:29:48 | anoopa | dbs++ #Just decided to checkout Karmic.vdi and noticed BR1-sabram |
| # | 16:30:08 | dbs | anoopa: heh, whoops :) |
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| # | 18:01:43 | branflakes | If anyone from ESI is on the channel, your blog is busted. |
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| # | 18:33:52 | dbfletcher | i recently downloaded the virtualbox image for evergreen 1.4.0.4 . It starts fine but I am never able to log in to the client. it just tellsm me to check username password (admin, open-ils). Anyone have experience with this? |
| # | 18:35:25 | phasefx_ | I forget, does it have instructions for starting up the backend services, or does that happen automatically? |
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| # | 18:36:01 | dbfletcher | it give you a scipt to stsrtup evergreen... but it seems after you run it once.. the severice start automatically after that |
| # | 18:37:30 | phasefx_ | may want to try logging in with srfsh, can you sudo su - opensrf then srfsh then login admin open-ils staff ? |
| # | 18:38:01 | dbfletcher | i'll check.. be back in a sec. |
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| # | 18:40:30 | dbfletcher | at the srfsh prompt now |
| # | 18:41:56 | phasefx_ | should get back some text which includes "textcode":"SUCCESS" |
| # | 18:42:36 | dbfletcher | i get "cant communication with service openils.auth |
| # | 18:43:47 | phasefx_ | control+d or type exit to get out of srfsh. Try this ps -aef | grep open-ils.auth There should be at least a Listener and a Drone process |
| # | 18:44:50 | branflakes | dbfletcher: I noticed your error message doesn't have a hyphen in open-ils. |
| # | 18:45:51 | branflakes | Wait, never mind. Login doesn't require an OpenSRF service name (you don't have to specific open-ils.auth as part of the login command). |
| # | 18:46:10 | dbfletcher | hmmm.. nope.. i guess that give a clue... should i goole on my own to find out how to start thoses services or are you able to help walk me thru that step. I have followed what is on the evergreen site for that image download |
| # | 18:46:54 | dbfletcher | that was a type.. onthe hyphen.. sorry |
| # | 18:46:59 | dbfletcher | typo |
| # | 18:47:03 | phasefx_ | as user opensrf, do /openils/bin/osrf_ctl.sh -l -a stop_all (just to clear the PID files, I'm pretty sure services aren't running) |
| # | 18:47:53 | phasefx_ | then do the same command but change stop_all to start_router then repeat again with start_perl (wait a few seconds, or watch top and wait until cpu activity dies down) then one last time with start_c |
| # | 18:48:36 | phasefx_ | you could do start_all in lieu of all of that, but you're likely to hit a race condition within a virtual image |
| # | 18:50:42 | dbfletcher | ok.. stop said no process... let me try the start commands. Forgive the lag.. bouncing back and forth between this machine and remote client |
| # | 18:56:58 | dbfletcher | some progress.. give me a few more mins.. gonna try the client dirctly on local host |
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| # | 19:00:11 | dbfletcher | im going to reconnect to this channel on the remote client... brb |
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| # | 19:08:39 | dfletcher__ | now i get "network or server failure"... let me run the evergreen_startup script again to make sure there wasnt error message there |
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| # | 19:12:11 | dfletcher__ | ok.. success!!!!! now to reboot and see if it works again.. if not i will go thru the steps lested above again |
| # | 19:21:29 | dfletcher__ | didnt survive reboot. but step outlined above work. if someone want to verify the that instructions as posted dont work right, that would be great. it appears to be a problem with the start_evergreen script |
| # | 19:50:30 | dbfletcher | thanks for your help. |
| # | 19:51:06 | phasefx_ | np, keep in mind that 1.4.0.4 has some bugs that have since been fixed. The latest 1.4 series release is 1.4.0.7 |
| # | 19:51:48 | dbfletcher | ya.. but there doesnt seem to be a preconfig system for that yet. is there? |
| # | 19:52:23 | phasefx_ | no, most folks' brain cycles are going toward the anytime-now 1.6 release |
| # | 19:53:26 | phasefx_ | dbs put up a virtualbox image of that, I believe, but it's not advertised yet on the download page |
| # | 19:54:03 | dbfletcher | gotcha... i see many headache ahead for me however. if the library does go down this path, we mostly likely will want to leverage our exisiting hyper-V servers.. and centos is the only linux flavor that i have successfully got to work with hyper-v integration compnents... doesnt seem to be to many installations using centos |
| # | 19:54:55 | phasefx_ | yeah, I imagine some pain there, but if you succeed at getting EG running on centos, I think there'd be many people who'd hug you :) |
| # | 19:55:54 | dbfletcher | great.... but for now at least the library staff can play around as see if it is a good replacement for their aging winnebago system |
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| # | 19:56:38 | phasefx_ | you may want to upgrade that image so that it's using 1.4.0.7. Shouldn't be difficult |
| # | 19:57:01 | dbfletcher | on a side note.. is this a proper forum for the library staff to post thiere quesions when they are playing with evergree? |
| # | 19:57:42 | dbfletcher | i'll play with that on a opy of the image |
| # | 19:57:46 | dbfletcher | copy |
| # | 19:58:08 | dbfletcher | man.. kb is skipping lots of character tonight.. or perhaps it is the operator?? |
| # | 19:58:31 | phasefx_ | http://evergreen-ils.org/listserv.php has info for a good mailing list. This channel is another option, but may be intimidating to non-techies, and folks aren't always here realtime |
| # | 19:59:50 | dbfletcher | ok.. I know the one ref librarian poted something on there.. but i guess i was more accustomed to real-time chat... we will try both and see which seems to work best. |
| # | 20:01:00 | dbfletcher | again thanks for you help and if i have any luck with centos i'll be sure to post. |
| # | 20:01:40 | phasefx_ | even if someone isn't around on here, it's good to ask your questions anyway. We tend to stay logged in and see questions that were asked earlier. I could then type something like @later tell dbfletcher survey says, and our IRC bot pinesol would talk to you when you next piped up on channel |
| # | 20:02:11 | phasefx_ | @later tell dbfletcher test |
| # | 20:02:11 | pinesol | phasefx_: The operation succeeded. |
| # | 20:02:40 | phasefx_ | and of course, the channel is logged, and eventually indexed by google |
| # | 20:09:12 | dbfletcher | good info. thanks. i'm outta here for now. |
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| # | 22:17:32 | wlayton | hey dbs |
| # | 22:17:47 | dbs | hiya wlayton |
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| # | 22:21:12 | dbs | I just haven't put the time into building a 1.4 vm to test things out with. suppose we could just add it to the upgrade script |
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| # | 22:39:41 | dbs | okay, committed 14849 using the power of my mind to test the upgrade. it's outside the transaction, so it really can't hurt... can it? |
| # | 22:45:55 | wlayton | dbs++ # thanks! |
| # | 22:46:51 | dbs | no no, the thanks is all owed to you! wlayton++ |
| # | 22:47:20 | wlayton | I promise that once this upgrade + migration (phase 2) is done, I'll shift back from Pester Mode to Patch Mode. |
| # | 22:48:15 | wlayton shakes clenched fist at III |
| # | 22:50:35 | dbs | wlayton: I appreciate you in both Pester & Patch mode! |
| # | 22:51:15 | dbs | does III really only spit out exports in combined bib + MFHD? |
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| # | 22:53:38 | wlayton | dbs: I believe so, but I haven't had a proper look yet |
| # | 22:54:24 | wlayton | We had to wait like 2.5 months for III to enable the MFHD module so that we could "export" MFHD... |
| # | 22:55:02 | wlayton | ...which required two upgrades apparently (we were two versions behind) |
| # | 22:56:20 | dbs | crazzzy |
| # | 22:59:21 | wlayton | Of course, the two upgrades _still_ didn't enable the MFHD export and they had to debug some other issue before George finally got it working. |
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