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2008-05-16T10:37:52 dbs: i have not, but i'd be glad to give it a shot 2008-05-16T10:37:56 I still need to try it on a debian box - I think we've only tried it on ubuntu thus far 2008-05-16T10:38:15 berick: that would be swell (although I hate to take you away from the massive streak of commits you've been on) 2008-05-16T10:38:43 heh.. is Lenny ok? 2008-05-16T10:38:54 better than nothin, i suppose 2008-05-16T10:42:39 indeed - I'll test etch later (have a meeting to run to right now) 2008-05-16T10:54:51 *** ibb1 has left #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-05-16T11:36:49 *** pmurray_away is now known as pmurray 2008-05-16T11:38:42 dbs: what exactly did you mean by "Our current ILS cannot transfer the barcode number or call number .." in your acq scenarios... transfer from a vendor MARC order record? 2008-05-16T11:56:29 *** denials has quit IRC 2008-05-16T11:57:36 denials has been denied. 2008-05-16T11:59:08 *** denials has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-05-16T12:26:32 * dbs needs to look at the acq scenarios, now that he's back from his meeting 2008-05-16T12:30:17 berick: that's not my scenario :) 2008-05-16T12:31:37 jbfink would be the ultimate authority, but I think that means that even though the books are pre-processed (they arrive with barcodes and call number labels already attached) 2008-05-16T12:32:06 and even though the barcodes and call numbers are in the MARC order records received from the vendor 2008-05-16T12:32:48 their current ILS gives them no way of taking that information from the MARC order records and populating their item information with it 2008-05-16T12:32:56 make sense? 2008-05-16T12:36:40 ahh, the MARC import wouldn't /change/ the existing item records (presumably made by Acquisitions) 2008-05-16T12:36:50 (FYI, berick's out to lunch at the moment) 2008-05-16T12:38:10 dmcmorris_esi: thanks! but no - the item records are created when the purchase order (generated by loading the MARC order record) is approved 2008-05-16T12:38:24 so it's just a stupid legacy ILS 2008-05-16T12:40:21 hehe, that's hard to believe... a legacy ILS that's stupid ;) 2008-05-16T12:41:07 be nice, all software is good in _some_ environment :) 2008-05-16T12:41:35 * dmcmorris_esi looks for a copy of Windows 1.0... ;) 2008-05-16T12:42:30 find a tandy 2008-05-16T12:44:16 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2008-05-16T12:44:16 *** pmurray has quit IRC 2008-05-16T12:45:09 *** gmcharlt has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-05-16T12:45:09 *** pmurray has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-05-16T12:47:52 *** lisppaste6 has quit IRC 2008-05-16T12:53:11 *** EGUEST107 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-05-16T12:53:35 dbs: yeah, makes sense 2008-05-16T12:54:35 i wonder how one would encode which volume a copy is supposed to be attached to in the order record. IOW, order record says "split these up into 3 volumes and..." do what with the copies? disperse them evenly? 2008-05-16T12:54:57 guess i just need to see such an order record 2008-05-16T12:55:40 I bet they include textual callnumber labels on the item level 2008-05-16T12:55:54 yeah, probably 2008-05-16T12:59:12 *** pmurray has quit IRC 2008-05-16T12:59:12 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2008-05-16T12:59:32 *** gmcharlt has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-05-16T12:59:32 *** pmurray has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-05-16T13:00:00 yeah, something like just do a straight string match and create volume if it doesn't exist 2008-05-16T13:01:41 *** lisppaste6 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-05-16T13:02:03 Hello I have been trying to install openils on ubuntu 7.10 desktop. However the I cannot connect to ejabberd. 2008-05-16T13:02:09 i can't remember if we had a plan for generating temporary copy barcodes at create time (when no barcode is provided) 2008-05-16T13:02:17 Can anyone help me with it? 2008-05-16T13:02:59 EGUEST107: where are you running into trouble? 2008-05-16T13:03:10 I have just done an apt-get purge ejabberd and reinstalled it. 2008-05-16T13:03:55 okay. if you /etc/init.d/ejabberd stop does it stop? 2008-05-16T13:04:16 It says it is already stopped. 2008-05-16T13:04:24 okay. and then if you /etc/init.d/ejabberd start does it start? 2008-05-16T13:04:37 my hostfqdn says eg-server.libnet.org 2008-05-16T13:04:52 have you changed anything in /etc/ejabberd/ejabberd.cfg yet? 2008-05-16T13:04:59 No 2008-05-16T13:05:01 good 2008-05-16T13:05:31 we're just going to ignore the installing eg on ubuntu documentation and use localhost for everything, ok? 2008-05-16T13:05:44 (with the exception of the final entry in opensrf.xml) 2008-05-16T13:05:47 yes 2008-05-16T13:05:58 ok 2008-05-16T13:06:01 okay. So did ejabberd start? 2008-05-16T13:06:16 I will try just a moment 2008-05-16T13:06:23 okay. and then "telnet localhost 5222" 2008-05-16T13:07:12 are you saying I should not edit ejabberd.cfg at all? 2008-05-16T13:07:27 before I try and start it? 2008-05-16T13:09:16 correct 2008-05-16T13:09:27 we just want to ensure that ejabberd is working right out of the box 2008-05-16T13:10:18 It says I am connected. 2008-05-16T13:10:23 excellent! 2008-05-16T13:11:01 so shut down ejabberd, edit ejabberd.cfg as needed, start it up again, and ensure that you can connect again 2008-05-16T13:11:28 then, when you register your ejabberd users, use "localhost" as the hostname, and edit opensrf_core.xml accordingly 2008-05-16T13:11:59 Ok 2008-05-16T13:13:08 berick++ # for leading the localhost charge 2008-05-16T13:14:16 So I don't change hosts, localhost to hosts "localhost","eg-server" at all? 2008-05-16T13:14:52 In the cfg file jsut add the admin users? 2008-05-16T13:18:32 EGUEST107: you'll need to change the other settings as well (max_user_sessions, etc.) 2008-05-16T13:19:38 Got it. 2008-05-16T13:27:18 I have changed ejabberd.cfg and restarted it and succefully telneted to it. 2008-05-16T13:36:38 cool 2008-05-16T14:00:39 I just ran sudo -u opensrf ./settings-tester.pl it ran with no errors. 2008-05-16T14:00:51 that sounds good 2008-05-16T14:01:41 I am very exited. 2008-05-16T14:03:38 I am now going to try the outreach and trustee groups by running osrf_ctl.sh as stated in my docs 2008-05-16T14:05:01 I have already made some changes to Open-ILS Bootstrapping Scripts 2008-05-16T14:10:05 I just ran "sudo -u opensrf ./autogen.sh /openils/conf/opensrf_core.xml" 2008-05-16T14:10:21 And it all worked I think. 2008-05-16T14:17:41 how about a srfsh test? 2008-05-16T14:18:05 and don't forget "autogen.sh /openils/conf/opensrf_core.xml" 2008-05-16T14:19:19 got the autogen it looks ike 2008-05-16T14:20:04 oh, duh :) 2008-05-16T14:20:12 okay, yeah - you're golden if autogen worked 2008-05-16T14:24:56 I rebuilt the client and ran xulrunner application.ini 2008-05-16T14:25:51 I tested the server with eg-server.libnet.org and got status 200 ok and version 200 ok 2008-05-16T14:26:27 However I cannot login as admin password open-ils 2008-05-16T14:28:21 I get a network Failur:status = 200 2008-05-16T14:29:09 can you try srfsh? 2008-05-16T14:30:14 I don't know what that is. I don't see anything in my docs about it. 2008-05-16T14:31:50 Okay, I'll find some quick docs for you 2008-05-16T14:32:30 see step # 20 on http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=installing_evergreen_1.2_on_debian_etch_x86_32-bit#testing_connections_to_evergreen 2008-05-16T14:33:04 (it's above the section I linked to - d'oh!) - then follow the steps I linked to 2008-05-16T14:33:39 Ok thank you very much. 2008-05-16T14:36:19 *** skmurphy has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-05-16T14:36:44 dbs - I have been sent here with a question for you regarding diacritics... or rather, a bug report 2008-05-16T14:36:49 if you happen to be around 2008-05-16T14:36:53 uh oh 2008-05-16T14:36:55 :) 2008-05-16T14:36:59 dbs: I pointed her to you :D 2008-05-16T14:37:03 what's up? 2008-05-16T14:37:04 *** pmurray is now known as pmurray_away 2008-05-16T14:37:07 i was looking for eeevil 2008-05-16T14:37:13 =) 2008-05-16T14:37:54 ok, so a search for "Koenings, N. S." will bring up the same results as a search for "Köenings, N. S." This is, of course, the correct behavior 2008-05-16T14:37:56 However 2008-05-16T14:38:23 a search for "Stanislaw" does not bring up the same results as "Stanisław" 2008-05-16T14:38:36 which is not correct 2008-05-16T14:39:04 i don't know how diacritics and ascii characters are mapped, but it looks like that one is missing 2008-05-16T14:39:21 ./srfsh gives me "Unable to bootstrap client for requests" 2008-05-16T14:41:09 (in both cases, doing 'author' searches from either the search results page or the advanced search page in the OPAC) 2008-05-16T14:41:24 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-05-16T14:41:34 oh man, i scared him away with my outrageous demands 2008-05-16T14:41:41 I think so 2008-05-16T14:41:54 well, time for me to go eat something anyway... i'll be back in a while 2008-05-16T14:42:54 *** pmurray_away is now known as pmurray 2008-05-16T14:43:06 EGUEST107: did you configure a .srfsh.xml file? 2008-05-16T14:45:25 I could have swore there was an example srfsh.xml in the repository.. hrmm 2008-05-16T14:45:43 EGUEST107: make a file called .srfsh.xml in the home directory for your user and model it after this: http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=osrf-devel:srfsh_--_.srfsh.xml 2008-05-16T14:46:56 ok thanks 2008-05-16T14:59:19 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-05-16T14:59:40 skmurphy: so would you believe my computer froze at _exactly_ the moment I sent "what's up"? 2008-05-16T15:01:32 reading backscroll on screen+irssi 2008-05-16T15:04:29 phasefx_: step 20 in the debian instructions is all about setting up .srfsh.xml... whassa matta, you don't like my docs? 2008-05-16T15:04:57 skmurphy: ah, tsearch2 configuration it sounds like 2008-05-16T15:07:09 dbs: overlooked it somehow :( sorry 2008-05-16T15:07:38 dbs: I blame the anchor in the URL :) 2008-05-16T15:08:37 good thing to blame 2008-05-16T15:10:09 I created .srfsh.xml in my home directory user admin password open-ils but when I run ./srfsh I get the following 2008-05-16T15:10:31 [WARN:12277:transport_session.c:426:] Error connecting to jabber 2008-05-16T15:11:15 [INFO:12277:transport_session.c:410:] Received message with type auth and code 401 2008-05-16T15:11:38 [WARN:12277:transport_session.c:510:] Error in IQ packet: code 401 2008-05-16T15:11:57 [WARN:12277:transport_session.c:511:] Error 401 means not authorized 2008-05-16T15:12:16 [ERR :12277:srfsh.c:21:] Unable to bootstrap client for requests 2008-05-16T15:12:29 hmm - sounds like you have the wrong username or password or hostname 2008-05-16T15:12:54 they match the username, password, and hostname you supplied in opensrf_core.xml? 2008-05-16T15:13:21 Ok I will check 2008-05-16T15:17:06 That was it. It worked. Now I will retry the client again. 2008-05-16T15:22:41 The client is working. 2008-05-16T15:23:14 I will try and learn more about it now thank you very very much. 2008-05-16T15:24:24 awesome! 2008-05-16T15:27:48 *** phase_bb has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-05-16T15:40:10 *** kbeswick has quit IRC 2008-05-16T15:50:47 *** Slazer has quit IRC 2008-05-16T15:51:38 * dbs doesn't see anything explicit in tsearch2 config stuff in src/sql/Pg 2008-05-16T15:51:53 maybe eeevil is stripping diacritics at query time instead - I'll go poke around that code 2008-05-16T15:52:48 thanks dbs - i gotta scoot for a little longer, but i'll be back to talk to you about that later. thanks for looking into it! 2008-05-16T15:53:06 skmurphy: I need to look into it for my trip to Armenia anyways, so it's good timing 2008-05-16T15:53:12 have a good weekend 2008-05-16T15:59:36 ah - looks like the magic all happens (or not!) in the naco_normalize() method of perlmods/OpenILS/ApplicationStorage/FTS.pm 2008-05-16T16:01:03 which in turn is implementing http://www.loc.gov/catdir/pcc/naco/normrule.html 2008-05-16T16:10:16 but in the end, normalizing the query means "give tsearch2 what it needs to find results, and make things happen that people expect to have happen" 2008-05-16T16:13:23 NACO just maps ł from MARC-8 into Unicode 0142 - which is ł (surprise surprise) 2008-05-16T16:14:14 theoretically, a cataloger could create an alternate entry for that field - hmm 2008-05-16T16:17:13 bah, I'm babbling 2008-05-16T16:23:27 or we could just add $txt = s/\x{0142}/L/; # Convert POLISH L 2008-05-16T16:23:38 err, s/=/=~/ 2008-05-16T16:34:33 but there's a whole swath of characters that need mapping, if we're going to continue with this approach. sigh. 2008-05-16T16:35:15 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-05-16T16:57:52 *** pmurray is now known as pmurray_away 2008-05-16T17:01:20 *** Karen__ has left #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-05-16T19:49:51 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2008-05-16T19:54:11 *** sarabee_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-05-16T19:54:20 *** sarabee is now known as miker_ 2008-05-16T20:13:30 *** sarabee_ has quit IRC 2008-05-16T20:13:45 *** miker_ has quit IRC 2008-05-16T21:03:31 *** sarabee_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-05-16T21:12:04 *** miker_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-05-16T22:47:12 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen