2008-04-24T01:28:26 *** Mark__T has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-04-24T01:30:28 *** greg-g has quit IRC 2008-04-24T03:09:03 *** sarabee has quit IRC 2008-04-24T03:09:25 *** miker_ has quit IRC 2008-04-24T03:34:14 *** miker_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-04-24T03:34:44 *** sarabee has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-04-24T05:52:20 *** ibbo has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-04-24T07:45:08 *** Mark__T has left #openils-evergreen 2008-04-24T07:46:02 *** Mark__T has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-04-24T08:49:59 http://dojocampus.org/content/?p=102 2008-04-24T08:50:15 I plan to use that to make the translation widget translatable today 2008-04-24T08:50:17 :) 2008-04-24T09:08:53 *** greg-g has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-04-24T09:15:29 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-04-24T09:28:09 * dbs waves as he returns from vacation 2008-04-24T09:39:30 * berick hugs dbs 2008-04-24T09:48:37 *** Mark__T has left #openils-evergreen 2008-04-24T09:49:45 *** Karen_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-04-24T10:44:13 http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Thank-you,-Javascript.aspx 2008-04-24T10:45:51 Ah, we'll just close the library from January -> September. 2008-04-24T10:46:02 dbs: PERFECT 2008-04-24T10:46:56 Hmm. Looks like I might be able to employ a summer student with some CS skills and some graphic design skills. 2008-04-24T10:47:13 ooo! 2008-04-24T10:47:18 -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =- 2008-04-24T10:47:28 omg!!!111!!1!~~!! 2008-04-24T10:48:23 heh 2008-04-24T12:06:35 crazy, apache.org got redesigned 2008-04-24T12:07:41 http://httpd.apache.org still looks familiar :) 2008-04-24T12:07:50 yeah ;) 2008-04-24T12:08:02 1 page at a time, i guess 2008-04-24T12:08:09 navigation_on_the_right-- 2008-04-24T12:08:23 yeah, i'm not too crazy about that either 2008-04-24T12:33:48 heh... https://coffeecode.net/archives/155-Test-server-strategies.html#c1082 2008-04-24T12:37:24 ha 2008-04-24T12:37:31 "not in terms of cost, bucko" 2008-04-24T12:38:05 6500 users BWAHAHA 2008-04-24T12:38:12 1.8M, friend 2008-04-24T12:38:27 yeah, 6500 academic users - it's still pure speculation 2008-04-24T12:38:31 sure 2008-04-24T12:38:37 and obviously not concurrent 2008-04-24T12:38:57 right 2008-04-24T12:39:11 I love those kinds of unqualified arguments 2008-04-24T12:39:27 and by love I mean "love having a gun handy" 2008-04-24T12:39:47 "this is the obvious advantage of denormalized data - search can be really fast - but oh I hate it when I forget to update all the copies of the data in all the right places" 2008-04-24T12:40:32 heh 2008-04-24T12:40:37 where's that from 2008-04-24T12:40:49 that's just me 2008-04-24T12:40:54 ahh 2008-04-24T12:41:18 have you had a gander at the translation dijit? 2008-04-24T12:41:25 My eyes popped 2008-04-24T12:41:38 damn! 2008-04-24T12:41:41 so yes :) 2008-04-24T12:41:51 how are you going to translate with no eyes!?!?! 2008-04-24T12:41:52 miker-- 2008-04-24T12:42:09 I was relatively incommunicado on vacation, but still reading patches and had to try that one out 2008-04-24T12:42:19 good 2008-04-24T12:42:24 and good on vacation 2008-04-24T12:43:06 you guys pumped out a ton of good stuff over the past week 2008-04-24T12:44:57 oh, and it's relatively easy to do I18n via the URL with dojo and opensrf integration 2008-04-24T12:45:14 the conify interface uses that 2008-04-24T12:45:50 so, maybe no more apache stuff after full dojoificiation 2008-04-24T12:46:09 maybe 2008-04-24T12:46:34 full 2008-04-24T12:46:58 "full dojoification" meaning replacing XUL and mod_xmlent? 2008-04-24T12:47:17 I'm just thinking of html, really 2008-04-24T12:47:25 stuff that requires xmlent 2008-04-24T12:47:38 the xul won't with messagecat, right? 2008-04-24T12:47:49 xul uses xmlent too 2008-04-24T12:48:42 hrm... for the stuff that hasn't been messagecatalog'd? 2008-04-24T12:49:13 no, we were only using messagecatalog for javascript strings; there are tons of labels and accesskeys that are entity'ed 2008-04-24T12:49:28 oh... 2008-04-24T12:49:55 yeah 2008-04-24T12:49:59 hrm 2008-04-24T12:50:00 k 2008-04-24T12:50:34 so to replace xmlent in either the HTML or XUL, you would need to be manip'ing the DOM via JS pretty heavily 2008-04-24T12:52:15 right... 2008-04-24T12:52:38 or, full dojoification :) 2008-04-24T12:53:29 yeah - I'm going to try out a VM with 128 MB of RAM as a client in one second - I'm curious to see how it deals with conify 2008-04-24T12:59:44 conify seems to work fine with firefox in 128 MB of RAM (barebones Win XP install, but good enough for me) 2008-04-24T13:00:41 yeah, dojo isn't too heavy ... just initial download time 2008-04-24T13:00:55 after the first time it should be ok 2008-04-24T13:04:20 *** ibbo has left #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-04-24T13:16:28 staff client also works fine in WinXP with 128 MB of RAM (assuming no anti-virus / other ram-hungry processes) -- good to know for resource-strapped libraries 2008-04-24T13:22:46 I wonder if a laptop would work for that 2008-04-24T13:23:06 ah, in scrollback, so you guys have no idea what I'm talking about :) 2008-04-24T13:46:03 *** gmcharlt_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-04-24T13:49:51 *** phase_bb has quit IRC 2008-04-24T14:00:17 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2008-04-24T14:02:56 *** gmcharlt_ is now known as gmcharlt 2008-04-24T15:43:26 http://dojocampus.org/content/?p=102 ... from yesterday 2008-04-24T15:46:16 * berick nods 2008-04-24T15:55:19 nicely written tutorial 2008-04-24T15:55:44 * dbs heads home for parental duties 2008-04-24T15:56:38 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-04-24T15:57:25 berick: pasting utf8 into vim... 2008-04-24T15:58:09 eh? 2008-04-24T15:58:23 or, just setting the encoding, I guess 2008-04-24T15:59:30 eeevil: wha? 2008-04-24T16:00:48 trying to paste in translated content 2008-04-24T16:03:03 eeevil: i'm confused.. are you asking me a question? 2008-04-24T16:03:11 meh ... unicode translator is enough 2008-04-24T16:03:14 heh ...yeah 2008-04-24T16:03:23 asking for your vim wisdom 2008-04-24T16:04:12 oh, ok... pasting usually works for me, but i don't get much farther than the occaisonal accent 2008-04-24T16:04:38 well, I'm on app7 2008-04-24T16:12:23 *** phase_bb has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-04-24T16:50:25 http://dev.gapines.org/conify/es-us/global/actor/org_unit_type.html 2008-04-24T16:50:37 check out the translate button and popup 2008-04-24T17:17:17 berick: I was wrong! I had a typo that cause the translation to fall back to the global default 2008-04-24T17:17:29 (he said, with no context) 2008-04-24T17:18:08 heh 2008-04-24T17:18:18 so... yeah 2008-04-24T17:18:20 dojo++ 2008-04-24T17:18:34 nice 2008-04-24T17:33:50 *** phase_bb has quit IRC 2008-04-24T17:59:24 *** Karen_ has left #OpenILS-Evergreen