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OK if I work on the credit card code some? 2008-04-11T08:42:12 yes! 2008-04-11T08:42:15 cool 2008-04-11T08:44:19 today is pending patch day, folks 2008-04-11T08:48:10 atheos: I assume it's OK if I actually create transactions on this account? 2008-04-11T08:48:23 or attempt to.. 2008-04-11T08:48:26 absolutely. this is a test box only 2008-04-11T08:49:03 atheos: i don't suppose you have a test credit # / expire date I could use? 2008-04-11T08:49:04 so, I take it you've gotten past the BAD_PARAMS 2008-04-11T08:49:10 atheos: typo :) 2008-04-11T08:49:17 :) 2008-04-11T08:49:23 let me look one up 2008-04-11T08:49:32 s/arghash/argshash/ 2008-04-11T08:50:56 oh dude, I can run with it here. the script is getting all the billing information :) 2008-04-11T08:51:52 atheos: cool, take 'er away :) 2008-04-11T08:51:58 let me know if i can help 2008-04-11T08:52:20 thanks, I'll get working on this (add paypal too) and send you the details 2008-04-11T08:52:22 is the code in a repo ... somewhere? 2008-04-11T08:52:46 miker_: not yet.. but it needs to be 2008-04-11T08:53:08 is it reasonable to include it in trunk? 2008-04-11T08:53:17 IOW, is this 1.4 material? 2008-04-11T08:53:45 i think so. 2008-04-11T08:54:07 if it's not done by 1.4, though, at least it's mostly done and in the repo 2008-04-11T08:55:12 atheos: how about I take what you currently have, add some initial docs, put it into the repo, then you can fetch that and build on it? 2008-04-11T08:55:38 berick, let's delay that until the end of the day if that's alright. 2008-04-11T08:55:58 atheos: sure, no prob 2008-04-11T08:56:10 I've got nothing else on my plate today. 2008-04-11T08:56:27 should be able to make some progress. btw, 4111111111111111 any expiration date should work 2008-04-11T08:56:38 thanks :) 2008-04-11T08:56:44 thank you! 2008-04-11T08:56:55 atheos: i'll be around the channel all day, so just holler if anything comes up 2008-04-11T08:57:12 ok, thanks again. 2008-04-11T09:00:26 *** Karen_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-04-11T09:16:40 *** gmcharlt has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-04-11T09:49:07 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-04-11T09:49:13 Before you release the CC code, I volunteer to let you try a few small transactions on my Visa debit card. Some merchants (like Sweet Tomatoes and a few gas stations) have trouble with it, and apparently it's a problem with all Visa debit cards from my credit union. 2008-04-11T09:49:37 Sweet Tomatoes fixes the problem by using the CVV as a PIN after they swipe the card. 2008-04-11T09:50:28 sylvar: i promise not to buy a giant TV in the name of Evergreen ;) 2008-04-11T09:51:03 We'll have to find a reasonably secure way of transmitting the data, of course. I haven't used GPG/PGP in ages but I imagine I could figure it out. 2008-04-11T09:51:13 sylvar, does your card then get processed as a debit transaction, apposed to a credit one? 2008-04-11T09:51:25 atheos: I think so, but I'm not sure. 2008-04-11T09:51:31 all the transactions will be in SSL 2008-04-11T09:51:59 sylvar, I'm not certain if we will be doing debit transactions, as they are typically only used in transactions where the merchant has the card in hand 2008-04-11T09:52:28 but we can certainly have you test the CC transactions. 2008-04-11T09:52:46 My point is (I think) that my card wouldn't run as credit for those merchants; they routinely announce to everyone in line that my card was declined. 2008-04-11T09:53:14 So now I warn them ahead of time that they have to use the three numbers on the back as a PIN or it will be declined. 2008-04-11T09:53:34 my credit union used to have a similar issue, and they they instituted a authorize all < 100 for transactions that couldn't reach their institution. 2008-04-11T09:53:35 So I want to make sure that my fellow customers at that credit union will be able to pay fines this way. 2008-04-11T09:53:53 debit transactions are processed completely differently/separately than CC ones 2008-04-11T09:54:06 Hmm. You seem to be referring to knowledge of the transaction lifecycle that's well beyond my ken. 2008-04-11T09:54:11 SO I'll just trust you. 2008-04-11T09:55:44 Are there any print/copier mgmt vendors that can/do use Evergreen patron financial records to handle positive deciling balances? 2008-04-11T09:55:58 *declining 2008-04-11T09:57:15 miker_++ # for the dojo-admin merge, just in time for an install on a completely fresh server today 2008-04-11T09:57:27 I'm not really going anywhere with this question, though, so if I'm wasting cycles that could be spent on code, I'll renice. 2008-04-11T09:59:01 *** Mark__T has quit IRC 2008-04-11T10:04:55 sylvar: maybe envisionware has a sip2 based thing ... but I don't know of anyone that's using it if it exists. EG does have positive declining balance support, though, via credit_forward_balance on the user record, so it's certainly possible 2008-04-11T10:05:36 miker_: cool 2008-04-11T10:06:15 I suppose that also makes it possible to support anonymous library cards. I've been dreaming about that for years. 2008-04-11T10:06:25 Just need the circulation logic to support it. 2008-04-11T10:07:49 well, it's on the user record, so it's not "anonymous" ... but you could just not record real information, I guess... 2008-04-11T10:08:10 and you can, of course, pay fines/fees from the credit balance 2008-04-11T10:10:28 exactly. The idea is that the patron's name fields could be blank if anon_patron is true--but if anon_patron is true, then cko is an atomic transaction that deducts the value of the item from the patron's credit_forward_balance or refuses because the balance is insufficient. 2008-04-11T10:10:58 and cki restores the value of the item to the patron's credit_forward_balance. 2008-04-11T10:12:46 I'm told the Sturgis library does something similar by hand during biker season. They do ask for a name, so they can identify who to give the $50 deposit back to, but it can be "Marietta Mike". 2008-04-11T10:16:47 *** gmcharlt_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-04-11T10:22:09 *** agJohn has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-04-11T10:25:37 good morning agJohn, I trust you've seen miker_'s comments about RAID and hardware recommendations on dbs's blog? 2008-04-11T10:27:41 ha! my comment amounted to "meh, test it. oh, and add more RAM." :) 2008-04-11T10:28:38 RAID 1+0 makes sense to me 2008-04-11T10:31:59 dbs: it's been my experience that that's the simplest, safest and most performant, and the cost of storage means RAID5 doesn't have much benefit there, which is where most of it's benefit was in the past ... and FWIW, I think agJohn was right about TCP specifying the RAID level for comparison perposes, but that's from memory and anecdotal 2008-04-11T10:32:26 but I still say testing under load is best ... and NO SAN! :) 2008-04-11T10:32:57 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2008-04-11T10:33:49 yes, real testing under load - hurrah 2008-04-11T10:34:30 *** gmcharlt_ is now known as gmcharlt 2008-04-11T10:35:01 well, I'll ammend my SAN comment ... no SAN for data mining, or for low-memory situations 2008-04-11T10:35:30 *** jbfink_ has quit IRC 2008-04-11T10:35:38 Hi sylvar, I hadn't seen miker_'s comment, but I'll take a look. 2008-04-11T10:36:23 berick, what variables compliment the patron->mailing_address in regards to city, state, and zip? I'm browsing in fm_IDL.xml for clues, but I need a hint 2008-04-11T10:37:23 atheos: city, state, and post_code ... IIRC 2008-04-11T10:37:27 atheos: city, state, post_code 2008-04-11T10:37:45 atheos: the the class id for that is ... aua I believe 2008-04-11T10:37:52 Call to [open-ils.credit.process] failed for session [1204882020.295106.12048820207194], thread trace [1]:\nNo field by the name city in Fieldmapper::actor::user! 2008-04-11T10:38:04 atheos: $patron->mailing_address->city 2008-04-11T10:38:10 ah 2008-04-11T10:38:11 tkx 2008-04-11T10:38:13 it should be fleshed 2008-04-11T10:38:17 IIRC 2008-04-11T10:42:22 miker_: recall offhand the event needed to fetch data for a given tab within a tabcontainer when the tab is selected? 2008-04-11T10:43:12 berick: onSelected, I think ... grp_tree uses it on the Group Permissions tab, I believe 2008-04-11T10:43:22 cool, thanks 2008-04-11T10:46:33 *** phase_bb has quit IRC 2008-04-11T10:56:40 would it be crazy to assign a student the task of updating our Class::DBI usage to use 3.0.x from 2006 instead of 0.96 from 2004? 2008-04-11T11:06:36 dbs: well, we could move to class::dbi::frozen_301 or whatever it's called 2008-04-11T11:06:52 which would be the "current" version of that branch 2008-04-11T11:07:29 it's unfortunate that cdbi has such a drama-filled past, but there are certain things we may still be depending on from that particular timeline 2008-04-11T11:08:22 fwiw, our situation is exactly ther reason that the community released the frozen 3.0.1 version without tony's buy-in 2008-04-11T11:08:44 wow. that is dramatic 2008-04-11T11:09:28 worst part is, tony pulled the formus he was maintaining that contained all of the history ... and the drama 2008-04-11T11:12:48 archive.org? 2008-04-11T11:13:04 dbs: I haven't looked to be honest 2008-04-11T11:13:15 but I think it's not there 2008-04-11T11:13:33 that's what I seem to remember hearing ... but I never confirmed that 2008-04-11T11:17:00 miker_: did you ever send your email out re: availability? 2008-04-11T11:17:45 rsinger: it's 1/2 written 2008-04-11T11:17:47 rsinger: sorry 2008-04-11T11:17:48 :) 2008-04-11T11:17:52 s'ok :) 2008-04-11T11:18:11 gah ... way too swamped for a friday 2008-04-11T11:18:29 * dbs shuts up about trivial stuff 2008-04-11T11:18:30 miker_: i feel like i should give you a three week window to respond to my response about opensrf atompub, too since it took me that long ;) 2008-04-11T11:18:40 haha 2008-04-11T11:18:48 yeah, totally -- we have another showing this afternoon, too, which will get me even further behind :( 2008-04-11T11:18:56 gotta stick to that 90 day deadline! 2008-04-11T11:21:08 rsinger: preview -> "stop talking about runtime permissibility checks!" :) 2008-04-11T11:21:26 heh 2008-04-11T11:23:26 it's crazy the indirect advantages that atompub brings to the table that the dlf is just ignoring 2008-04-11T11:23:29 like the URI thing 2008-04-11T11:23:45 totally not addressed by oai-pmh 2008-04-11T11:26:29 openurl uber alles. 2008-04-11T11:28:51 heh 2008-04-11T11:29:50 I think pinesol` needs to say "you can do it with openurl" randomly ... zoia too 2008-04-11T11:31:04 dangit ... applied a patch that was later superceded 2008-04-11T11:37:36 ok corrected 2008-04-11T11:38:23 *** pmurray is now known as pmurray_away 2008-04-11T11:40:10 you gotta be kiddin me.. if i put a grid inside a dijit.layout.TabContainer->dijit.layout.ContentPane it doens't render 2008-04-11T11:40:21 move it out, it renders fine 2008-04-11T11:41:26 berick: you have to put it inside a content pane, and give the content pane a size (width/height) and then give the grid 100% height/width 2008-04-11T11:41:54 well, put it inside some container type ... but content pane is the generic dojo
:) 2008-04-11T11:42:07 yeah, it's in a contentpane 2008-04-11T11:42:10 i'll try adding height 2008-04-11T11:42:22 berick: again, see the grp_tree.html Group Permissions tab 2008-04-11T11:42:52 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-04-11T11:43:43 miker_: height fixed it.. *whew* thanks. i am using that as a reference, but there are quite a few pieces to it all 2008-04-11T11:44:31 berick: there are quite a few pieces, yeah ... that thing in particular had me stumped for a couple hours 2008-04-11T11:45:46 gmail hates me today for attachement download 2008-04-11T11:47:35 *** ibbo has quit IRC 2008-04-11T11:50:23 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-04-11T11:57:21 OMG! srsly gmail, CHOP CHOP 2008-04-11T12:00:55 You're a flood threat, miker_ 2008-04-11T12:14:51 rsinger: there you go 2008-04-11T12:15:11 well... after gmail decides to send the message 2008-04-11T12:15:17 there 2008-04-11T12:16:32 miker_++ 2008-04-11T12:16:40 heh ... read it first 2008-04-11T12:16:48 uhoh 2008-04-11T12:16:52 haha 2008-04-11T12:16:54 no, not bad 2008-04-11T12:17:08 still making me way through tim mcgeary's msg 2008-04-11T12:26:15 *** sylvar has quit IRC 2008-04-11T12:35:27 berick: in OpenSRF trunk /install.conf, what do you think about making INSTALL_PYTHON be the default (now that osrf-http-translator is in flight)? 2008-04-11T13:02:49 dbs: yeah, may as well bit the bullet. even though the plan is to create a C version of http-translator, other python stuff will be needed soon enough 2008-04-11T13:03:03 s/bit/bite/ 2008-04-11T13:04:04 okay, will do 2008-04-11T13:04:35 cool 2008-04-11T13:17:31 So: virgin machines. just installed ejabberd. haven't touched ejabberd config. we try ejabberdctl stop, and we get the nodedown failure 2008-04-11T13:17:46 so much for the theory that plain old localhost works :( 2008-04-11T13:20:12 dbs: if it helps, i always use /etc/init.d/ejabberd 2008-04-11T13:21:01 berick: that just says that it's already stopped 2008-04-11T13:21:32 i guess beam is still running, though? 2008-04-11T13:22:03 jbfink++ # it's a problem in /etc/hosts 2008-04-11T13:22:15 berick: yeah - goddamn 2008-04-11T13:22:38 whoa, was /etc/hosts broken out of the box or had it been edited? 2008-04-11T13:23:59 berick: we didn't install the machines; IP was pointing to eth0 instead of eth1 IP address 2008-04-11T13:24:21 still - an awesome data point for future ejabberd debugging 2008-04-11T13:24:49 (so I'm not sure if /etc/hosts was misconfigured by debian install or by hand subsequently) 2008-04-11T13:49:22 berick, I think the script is at a minimum, ready to go. I'm sending you details via e-mail right now 2008-04-11T13:51:10 atheos++ 2008-04-11T14:05:17 hrm 2008-04-11T14:05:30 Error: Could not load 'fieldmapper.dojoData'; last tried '../fieldmapper/dojoData.js' Source File: http://localhost:8080/js/dojo/dojo/dojo.js 2008-04-11T14:06:11 dojo/fieldmapper and dojo/dojo are parallel, so that _should_ work 2008-04-11T14:06:34 dbs: dojoData may be loading something else not in the right place 2008-04-11T14:06:38 s/not/that's not/ 2008-04-11T14:06:58 heh - I love debugging javascript :) 2008-04-11T14:07:33 yeah.. dynamic imports (i.e. eval'ing) doesn't help, that's for sure 2008-04-11T14:17:25 ah, thank you apache: 2008-04-11T14:17:27 File does not exist: /openils/var/web/js/dojo/OpenSRF.js, referer: http://localhost:8080/conify/global/config/copy_status.html 2008-04-11T14:18:39 so, opensrf will need to put that there... 2008-04-11T14:18:39 which is, of course, in /openils/lib/javascript/ 2008-04-11T14:19:02 * dbs feels like this has been discussed before :) 2008-04-11T14:19:54 heh 2008-04-11T14:20:36 hrm, so opensrf needs to put files into and /dojo/ 2008-04-11T14:20:57 should opensrf be installing anything into /openils/lib/javascript/ anymore? 2008-04-11T14:21:08 yeah. poor opensrf, it shouldn't have to know about that should it? 2008-04-11T14:21:31 it seems like it shouldn't 2008-04-11T14:22:43 or... we put everything in $OPENSRF_LIB/javascript and get Evergreen web-install to copy * into /js/ 2008-04-11T14:23:29 (it seems weird that OpenSRF.js is being searched for in the dojo root dir to me, but what do I know) 2008-04-11T14:28:42 arg, sorr.. phone.. 2008-04-11T14:29:24 no need to apologize, the code has only been in trunk for ~12 hours :) 2008-04-11T14:30:11 wow. dojo makes firefox very unhappy if your connection to the server suddenly goes away 2008-04-11T14:43:29 well, I could see putting JSDIR and DOJODIR into the opensrf install.conf and copying into place where appropriate. opensrf does have some dojo-specific code (OpenSRF.js), so having it be aware of dojo doesn't seem like too much of a stretch 2008-04-11T14:45:03 although, i do feel a little odd about putting /all/ of the JS directly into the webdir at install time, since non-web apps may need the JS (e.g. circ script dependencies) 2008-04-11T14:45:28 i don't think they should have to reach into the web dir to find the JSON lib, for exaple 2008-04-11T14:45:36 * berick muses aloud 2008-04-11T14:46:24 hey guys ... look at the makefile and autogen ... the eg install moves the opensrf stuff around just like it did before, but with a dojo copy too 2008-04-11T14:47:51 dbs: i assume your opensrf.js error happened after an autogen, etc.? 2008-04-11T14:48:32 ahh.. miker_: cp $(OPENSRF_LIBS)/javascript/OpenSRF.js $(WEBDIR)/js/ ... should be $(WEBDIR)/js/dojo ? 2008-04-11T14:49:39 berick: is that from trunk? if so, yes, it should be 2008-04-11T14:49:57 yeah.. i'll update 2008-04-11T14:49:58 berick: it was late when I did the merge, and enough had changed that it had to be done by hand :) 2008-04-11T14:51:12 oh, pffthh, I don't care ;) 2008-04-11T14:51:54 dbs: wanna update and re-install? 2008-04-11T14:55:38 sorry, I was finally getting lunch 2008-04-11T14:55:41 will do 2008-04-11T15:01:25 * miker_ reads scrollback in /here/ now 2008-04-11T15:01:52 damn it, our VPN connections are dead 2008-04-11T15:03:34 ahh ... I see my makefile thinko last night caused all the problems today for dbs 2008-04-11T15:03:36 miker_-- 2008-04-11T15:03:36 miker_: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma. 2008-04-11T15:04:12 miker_: no no, there were lots of other causes for other problems that we ran into today :) 2008-04-11T15:04:45 and your little thinko is miniscule and to be expected in a large merge - that's what testers like me are for 2008-04-11T15:04:56 dbs++ 2008-04-11T15:55:34 * jeff installs evergreen staff client on a few more workstations 2008-04-11T16:04:01 one more tweak to Makefile, I think - cp opensrf*.js to js/dojo/opensrf/. rather than js/opensrf/. (and mkdir accordingly)? 2008-04-11T16:05:10 dbs: opensrf*.js isn't really dojo-ified 2008-04-11T16:05:27 dbs: yes 2008-04-11T16:05:32 dbs: do that 2008-04-11T16:05:37 berick: it's not meant to be 2008-04-11T16:06:11 berick: I use OpenSRF.js as a dojo-izing wrapper, and tell dojo not to check the namespace after loading those 2008-04-11T16:06:59 so why do they need to live in js/dojo/opensrf ? 2008-04-11T16:10:02 so I can use dojo.require 2008-04-11T16:10:07 s/i/OpenSRF.js/ 2008-04-11T16:13:08 what shouldn't go into js/dojo/ ? 2008-04-11T16:21:36 brb 2008-04-11T16:28:28 *** edc_detached is now known as ecorrado 2008-04-11T16:31:29 * rsinger grinds his teeth 2008-04-11T16:42:02 berick: so that it's out of the base directory, only ... is there an issue with it living in dojo/opensrf? perhaps OpenSRF.js should go into dojo/opensrf/ too 2008-04-11T16:42:39 rsinger: eh? 2008-04-11T16:43:10 miker_: you know 2008-04-11T16:43:40 miker_: there's no issue... just curious if we shouldn't go ahead and make everything dojo.require()-able (i.e. put evertying into js/dojo/*). 2008-04-11T16:43:50 or where we draw the line, etc 2008-04-11T16:44:19 which then calls into question the value of js/dojo/ ? 2008-04-11T16:44:28 dbs: indeed 2008-04-11T16:44:55 * dbs doesn't really care, just wants to be able to document a working install ;) 2008-04-11T16:45:07 same here.. just want a plan 2008-04-11T16:46:11 rsinger: ahh... authentication. fun 2008-04-11T16:46:15 * miker_ stays over here 2008-04-11T16:46:27 haha 2008-04-11T16:46:31 a$$ 2008-04-11T16:48:06 miker_++ 2008-04-11T16:48:29 it may bring the extra dojo into question ... that was what I said before, but djf and berick thought otherwise for dojo upgrade reasons 2008-04-11T16:48:58 however, whether that extra dojo is there or not, we should move things into dojo as needed 2008-04-11T16:49:54 I'm sure there will be plenty of code that gets discarded or completely rewritten (org_utils.js, for example), and having a migration target is much saner (to me) than trying to just do it all at once... no? 2008-04-11T16:50:34 yeah, i can def. see the benefit for migration 2008-04-11T16:50:48 it's not trivial, in some cases, to just dojo-ize some of the code ... org_utils.js was non-trivial, but not crazy hard 2008-04-11T16:52:07 i'd say the path is clear, then 2008-04-11T16:52:11 heh 2008-04-11T16:52:25 is the path "what we've been doing" ? 2008-04-11T16:52:28 ;) 2008-04-11T16:53:46 exactly 2008-04-11T16:53:56 meandering? 2008-04-11T16:54:04 but it's been upgraded from .. heh.. meandering to a path 2008-04-11T16:58:46 i think i know why djf's grid isn't rendering. i have 3 grids in one page. i've narrowed it down to the ones with a 'name' column in the data store render (regardless of whether it's visible), those without do not. if I add a bogus name to each item in the item list in the data store, it renders 2008-04-11T16:59:17 i'm not declaring 'name' as the identifier or label 2008-04-11T17:00:14 and it so happens, a picklist has a 'title' but not a 'name' 2008-04-11T17:00:35 well, no, it does have a 'name'... nm on that 2008-04-11T17:00:43 picklist, that is 2008-04-11T17:01:05 *** Karen_ has left #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-04-11T17:01:07 yay - opensrf-trunk install with python enabled works out of the box as of today 2008-04-11T17:01:08 * dbs claps 2008-04-11T17:01:30 yay 2008-04-11T17:02:25 actually, djf's grid is of lineitems, which don't have names 2008-04-11T17:02:32 * berick hacks djf's code 2008-04-11T17:03:42 hah, that's it 2008-04-11T17:08:35 berick: can you paste the structure/layout? 2008-04-11T17:09:17 miker_: yeah 2008-04-11T17:14:57 berick pasted "grid structure" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/59000 2008-04-11T17:17:23 *** ecorrado is now known as edc_detached 2008-04-11T17:17:38 rsinger: I hate you, btw 2008-04-11T17:17:39 if i uncomment the for loop, the grid renders 2008-04-11T17:17:42 guilting me into that... 2008-04-11T17:17:46 heh 2008-04-11T17:26:31 *** dbs has left #openils-evergreen 2008-04-11T17:52:11 miker_: jfyi, i had to set an explicit query (e.g. model.query={id:'*'}) .. i suppose name:'*' might be the default... 2008-04-11T18:02:55 yeah, always set a query ... you can do it in the markup with <... query=" 'id':'*' "/>, btw 2008-04-11T18:35:09 miker_: haha 2008-04-11T18:35:19 don't hate me, i at least understand how auth works 2008-04-11T18:43:15 *** phase_bb has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-04-11T20:40:32 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-04-11T20:46:17 aha - permacrud depends on XML::LibXML::XPathContext, which ain't in our Makefile.install deps (and which, on debian, ain't packaged in Etch stable - bastages) 2008-04-11T20:50:00 yep - only in testing. so do we push people to testing, or to cpan? 2008-04-11T20:50:07 * dbs goes to cpan 2008-04-11T21:16:36 oh my lord. osrf.http-translator is giving me NXDOMAIN errors. ARGH. 2008-04-11T21:18:03 haven't seen that one before ... 2008-04-11T21:18:28 yeah, I know how to take care of it. I just hate python's dns resolver 2008-04-11T21:18:40 ohhhhh 2008-04-11T21:18:42 yeah 2008-04-11T21:18:44 booo 2008-04-11T21:18:53 dnsmasq, here I come. 2008-04-11T21:29:55 on the bright side, by linking web/js/opensrf to web/js/dojo/opensrf, I've overcome the annoying missing js file errors 2008-04-11T21:29:55 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2008-04-11T21:30:23 on the dark side, osrf.http-translator is making me want to put hot lead into something 2008-04-11T21:33:21 dbs: any way to use 
 tags in comments on you blog?
2008-04-11T21:33:31   I want to use some ascii art ;)
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2008-04-11T21:36:43   miker_: I'll see if I can enable html
2008-04-11T21:36:47   one sec
2008-04-11T21:36:57   dbs: it's no biggie,really
2008-04-11T21:36:59   sorry
2008-04-11T21:39:31   miker_: I can give you an account on my blog so you can post an entry
2008-04-11T21:39:37   hahaha
2008-04-11T21:39:39   no
2008-04-11T21:39:49   otherwise, looks like comments aren't particularly configurable
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2008-04-11T21:41:07   meh ... it's good enough
2008-04-11T21:41:27   just more RAID fun
2008-04-11T21:46:06   One can never have enough RAI
2008-04-11T21:46:08   D
2008-04-11T21:49:14   Man. I /thought/ I knew how to take care of NXDOMAIN problems. *double-sigh*
2008-04-11T21:52:51   so ... just sayin' here ... python goes /so far/ with the whole "one and only one way" thing that they can't provide a working gethostname() function, since one already exists? ;)
2008-04-11T21:52:53  * miker_ ducks
2008-04-11T21:53:31   dbs: that's lame ... I thought you had it going earlier, no?
2008-04-11T21:53:39   or was that on a preexisting box
2008-04-11T21:58:31   miker_: different box
2008-04-11T21:58:59   and I've never actually got conify working - just knocking different problems out of the way
2008-04-11T21:59:52   and the grief about python's dns resolution is well-deserved, i don't know wtf is going on with it
2008-04-11T22:14:57   miker_: you know, you're right - last night osrf.http-translator was running okay on my laptop
2008-04-11T22:15:07   crap. I wonder if it's python 2.4 vs. 2.5
2008-04-11T22:15:18  * dbs has vague memories of some 2.5 dependencies
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