2008-03-16T00:07:59 Debian 1.2.1.4 image is up - yay - and the smallest image ever at 390M 2008-03-16T00:08:26 now I go to bed 2008-03-16T00:16:42 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-03-16T02:31:51 *** phasefx_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-03-16T04:22:52 *** scottmcd has quit IRC 2008-03-16T04:22:59 *** scottmcd has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-03-16T05:53:37 *** Zeki has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-03-16T05:53:58 hi everyone 2008-03-16T06:24:13 *** Zeki has quit IRC 2008-03-16T07:48:41 *** phasefx__ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-03-16T08:02:16 *** phasefx has quit IRC 2008-03-16T10:58:33 *** Zeki has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-03-16T10:58:46 hi everyone 2008-03-16T11:04:56 can somebody help me? 2008-03-16T11:21:10 *** Zeki has quit IRC 2008-03-16T13:14:29 *** greg-g has quit IRC 2008-03-16T14:03:05 *** dbs has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-03-16T14:03:28 * dbs breathes deeply 2008-03-16T14:12:22 dbs: yeah... 2008-03-16T15:40:06 *** greg-g has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-03-16T17:05:02 man - I'm pretty impressed, loading the 15000 gutenberg records into EG 1.2.1.4 on a 512MB vmware machine has pretty snappy search results 2008-03-16T17:06:12 dbs: hey, I have a question 2008-03-16T17:06:22 phasefx_: fire forward phasers 2008-03-16T17:06:51 if we want to include large-scale documentation into that staff client, say as HTML files.. what's our strategy for doing that i18n-wise? 2008-03-16T17:07:22 that's why I want to use docbook as a source format 2008-03-16T17:07:55 I was just about to make a commit in trunk where I was doing window.open('/xul/server/locale//multiclass_search_help.html'... 2008-03-16T17:07:59 you can have fine-grained control over the results of a docbook -> xhtml transform, so that you produce html files with known names 2008-03-16T17:08:45 the general strategy for providing contextual help is either to use convention over configuration (each window has some special id and the help file name is looked up based on that id) 2008-03-16T17:09:05 or you have a mapping file of window id -> html help file 2008-03-16T17:10:12 ah - so normally you would have a more abstract call that takes locale and help file name or context as arguments and figures out what the appropriate thing to do 2008-03-16T17:11:27 hrmm 2008-03-16T17:12:08 what would you think of another custom xul widget.. . The implementation would figure out the locale, and take the id from the element, and look for a file based on the id to open in a new window 2008-03-16T17:12:37 and it would be a button 2008-03-16T17:12:50 or menuitem... 2008-03-16T17:14:27 ? 2008-03-16T17:16:15 I tripped over all this wanting paragraph-formatted text :) 2008-03-16T17:16:58 I like it 2008-03-16T17:17:09 (sorry, had a telemarketer / survey person call) 2008-03-16T17:17:39 label attribute will probably be the same thing 99/100, yeah? 2008-03-16T17:18:13 "Help" or "(?)" or potentially an image 2008-03-16T17:18:38 yeah, can let label be optional 2008-03-16T17:19:12 maybe even id can be optional.. if no id, climb up the ancestors until you find an id 2008-03-16T17:19:14 We can play around with different help display options - it could open the help in a side panel rather than a separate window 2008-03-16T17:19:29 That sounds good 2008-03-16T17:19:41 brb 2008-03-16T17:20:05 I'll probably be away for a bit, back to parenting mode 2008-03-16T17:24:47 I'm going to check in what I have (button with oncommand attribute being modified by apache, and an html file sitting in locale), just to sit there as a wart until we come up with the infrastructure for something better 2008-03-16T19:06:47 * dbs thinks - hmmm - maybe we can steal some useful components from komodo edit in the area of contextual help... 2008-03-16T20:55:58 hmm. komodo edit includes xul development support. interesting 2008-03-16T20:59:24 I've been meaning to play with it 2008-03-16T20:59:43 it uses plain HTML files for its help source 2008-03-16T21:00:01 I guess they have no ambitions of generating a nice PDF manual 2008-03-16T21:00:08 but it keeps things simple 2008-03-16T21:02:33 (and they have VI bindings for their editor - w00t) 2008-03-16T21:05:23 nice visual warnings about JS strictness (trailing commas crap) 2008-03-16T21:05:41 coool 2008-03-16T21:58:59 phasefx_: 'open-ils.search.biblio.multiclass.query.staff' is staged search in trunk (and in 1.2.2 if we can get it tested) 2008-03-16T21:59:19 (from your commit this afternoon) 2008-03-16T21:59:45 figured as much, just don't know how to use it (assuming it's different) 2008-03-16T21:59:56 it's not 2008-03-16T22:00:06 coool 2008-03-16T22:00:07 it's transparent to the UI level 2008-03-16T22:00:26 what does that do? populate a bucket from a search? 2008-03-16T22:01:20 indirectly.. I broke the interface into 3 tabs.. Record Query / Pending Records / Bucket View 2008-03-16T22:01:29 you can move records from pane to an adjacent pane 2008-03-16T22:01:44 nice 2008-03-16T22:02:00 I got the multiclass call from watching what the opac called.. so advanced search in trunk must not be using staged yet 2008-03-16T22:02:16 it should be 2008-03-16T22:02:24 could be mistaken 2008-03-16T22:02:49 if it ends in .query (plus .staff or whatever) then it is 2008-03-16T22:03:29 I might be using staged then.. expected to see a 'staged' in the method name 2008-03-16T22:03:55 no, it's just backend stuff 2008-03-16T22:04:06 excellent 2008-03-16T22:04:13 the ML changed to support it, but the results to the opac/SC are the same 2008-03-16T22:05:38 I thought about using a derivation of the z3950 client for that Record Query pane, with the fake Evergreen-db z-source, but that's not active in trunk 2008-03-16T22:06:18 no, plus .query is faster ... you could use the SRU server, and offer CQL to the user ;) 2008-03-16T22:06:49 srw.serverChoice any/rel.stem "harry potter" 2008-03-16T22:06:50 I think the single textbox looks nicer and will work better 2008-03-16T22:06:59 instead of 'keyword:harry potter' ;) 2008-03-16T22:07:18 :D 2008-03-16T22:10:50 so ... any objection to me creating a new branch to work on the dojo admin stuff? 2008-03-16T22:11:13 none from me 2008-03-16T22:11:25 dojo++ 2008-03-16T22:11:31 dojo it up, baby 2008-03-16T22:12:40 I need to stop playing WoW and reading irc at the same time ;) 2008-03-16T22:16:07 phasefx_: I'm going to convert your
list of search keys and definitions into a table format 2008-03-16T22:16:50 dbs: sounds good.. I was doing it more as an example for a real documenter anyway :) rippped it from berick's method doc 2008-03-16T22:18:48 dbs: so ideally, such a file would be in docbook in some other directory, and during build it would get turned into .html and placed in the locale directory? 2008-03-16T22:19:11 phasefx_: that's how I've made things work in the past 2008-03-16T22:19:41 it lets translators focus on the semantic elements, rather than having to deal with html attributes and the like 2008-03-16T22:20:58 makes sense 2008-03-16T22:37:44 bah - the vi key bindings are almost, but not quite, the same as vim. not good 2008-03-16T23:17:02 hmm. time for a new amazon plugin it seems: http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/ann.jspa?annID=164 2008-03-16T23:27:44 dbs: that assumes that we use ECS :) 2008-03-16T23:28:23 ahh - right, you're doing what fac-back-opac does and just pointing to the munged ISBN for the book cover image? 2008-03-16T23:28:33 yes 2008-03-16T23:30:09 and we're recommending against using amazon anyway ... I have a feeling google books may become the new example :) 2008-03-16T23:39:07 I thought a google added content module would be a nice little project 2008-03-16T23:44:30 it's still up for grabs, if that's what you mean 2008-03-16T23:44:41 I just did the GBS thing 2008-03-16T23:45:21 yeah, that's what I mean :) Not me, though. I have to avoid getting sucked into yet another project. 2008-03-16T23:54:11 okay - night night 2008-03-16T23:54:23 *** dbs has quit IRC