2008-03-12T00:39:45 *** greg-g has quit IRC 2008-03-12T02:38:50 *** Mark__T has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-03-12T07:26:10 *** ibb1 has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-03-12T08:10:03 *** pmurray_away is now known as pmurray 2008-03-12T08:17:26 *** greg-g has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-03-12T09:26:07 *** ibb1 has quit IRC 2008-03-12T11:22:38 *** Mark__T has left #openils-evergreen 2008-03-12T11:39:27 *** pmurray is now known as pmurray_away 2008-03-12T12:55:15 *** pmurray_away is now known as pmurray 2008-03-12T14:17:47 *** Karen_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-03-12T16:08:59 Karen_: hey Karen, are you still playing with the Mac version of the staff client? any issues? 2008-03-12T16:19:00 Haven't had a chance to lately. Our macs live in another branch I seldom visit. 2008-03-12T16:19:43 gotcha. Was just curious 2008-03-12T19:24:40 *** Karen_ has left #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-03-12T20:16:01 *** dbs has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-03-12T20:16:24 I hate travel. 2008-03-12T20:26:26 dbs++ 2008-03-12T20:27:15 2.5 hour delay of my flight to toronto, meaning that I won't make my bus to hamilton tonight 2008-03-12T20:28:06 dbs: bah! 2008-03-12T20:28:39 I'm just so damn tired 2008-03-12T20:29:14 dbs: stay right there, I'll be over to drive you 2008-03-12T20:29:20 oh... wait... 2008-03-12T20:29:32 hah - at least I'm not planning on driving tonight 2008-03-12T20:35:17 so how was it? 2008-03-12T20:37:35 Pretty good 2008-03-12T20:38:12 It sounds like VALE is very serious about moving forward with open source 2008-03-12T20:38:27 well, that's good, at least 2008-03-12T20:39:22 I think they're very interested in seeing what we do 2008-03-12T20:39:58 ahh ... some of the ol' "wait and see" 2008-03-12T20:40:37 too bad they "wait and see" types don't realize that jumping in now (resources) will make things happen faster :( 2008-03-12T20:42:15 academics are expert waiters and seers 2008-03-12T20:42:21 hmmm 2008-03-12T20:42:41 miker_: I made a strong case that if they want to step into open source waters, don't make the same mistake we made until now 2008-03-12T20:42:46 othan those maverick canucks! 2008-03-12T20:42:55 maverick_canucks++ 2008-03-12T20:43:18 ... get dedicated resources assigned to the project, not project manager / system librarian / develop in your spare time types 2008-03-12T20:43:25 huh ... that was supposed to be "other than" but I guess my fingers forgot some letter :) 2008-03-12T20:43:34 dbs++ 2008-03-12T20:43:50 i'm so tired i read othan 2008-03-12T20:43:54 as other than 2008-03-12T20:43:56 dbs: and "get involved with the community" :) 2008-03-12T20:44:19 we could just start a new trend ... othan is intertube speak for other than 2008-03-12T20:45:12 it'll confuse tyros though 2008-03-12T20:45:30 (like me, I had never run across "tyros" before) 2008-03-12T20:46:05 neither had I 2008-03-12T20:46:18 I just assumed, based on context, that he meant n00bs 2008-03-12T20:46:53 yeah. define:tyro in google confirmed that 2008-03-12T20:46:54 http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Tyros 2008-03-12T20:47:00 :) 2008-03-12T20:48:09 I also said that building an acq system was, in some ways, as complex as building Evergreen in the first place (in terms of competing requirements for various acq customers and financial complexity) 2008-03-12T20:48:28 so 2 years from sept. 2006 wouldn't be such a bad turnaround 2008-03-12T20:56:46 indeed. more like one year of development 2008-03-12T20:57:20 right 2008-03-12T20:57:44 * dbs tries to slay the "bad debian documentation" dragon 2008-03-12T20:58:09 * dbs tries to give blood, too, just for fun 2008-03-12T21:04:10 geez, what got in the water in ATL? 2008-03-12T21:04:36 lots of chlorine? 2008-03-12T21:04:39 tons of commits 2008-03-12T21:04:41 blech 2008-03-12T21:04:47 heh 2008-03-12T21:04:54 dbs: permacrud :) 2008-03-12T21:08:57 oh, and I got rid of the reference to my home directory in the config.xml_transform table by putting the xslt in there 2008-03-12T21:09:36 (paving the way for in-db ingest and other fun stuff) 2008-03-12T21:10:04 cool 2008-03-12T21:11:59 but the big one is permacrud ... idl XML stanzas that restrict who can see and do what through a basic CRUD interface ... the admin api just go simpler :) 2008-03-12T21:12:31 *** djfiander has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-03-12T21:17:30 * bradl golf claps for djfiander 2008-03-12T21:18:03 really? why? 2008-03-12T21:18:19 my informants tell me that dan wouldn't shut up about me at the VALE thing today 2008-03-12T21:18:40 djfiander: oh, just your usual kicking ass 2008-03-12T21:18:46 heh 2008-03-12T21:22:59 djfiander: he's ANOTHER canadian 2008-03-12T21:23:22 i represented, y'all; I talked all aboot zed39.50 2008-03-12T21:23:31 haha 2008-03-12T21:23:33 heh 2008-03-12T21:23:36 dbs++ 2008-03-12T21:23:38 ha! 2008-03-12T21:24:05 djfiander: I only mentioned you twice that I recall, and only once with starry eyes 2008-03-12T21:25:38 (when I failed to complete my original thought, which was going to be about how watching you and bill work side by side on UI and OpenSRF layer showed how fast things could come together) 2008-03-12T21:25:46 "wow, you've done a lot! He keeps saying your name and I just want to shout out I'm tweeting w him right now!" 2008-03-12T21:26:35 hah 2008-03-12T21:26:48 I sense an nengard's presence 2008-03-12T21:27:05 nope, somebody else in the room ;) 2008-03-12T21:27:21 and yes, it is amazing how fast thing can come together 2008-03-12T21:28:03 you and your many fans 2008-03-12T21:28:09 djfiander: you're soooo 2.0 2008-03-12T21:29:26 berick: the detail records have barcodes and call # labels in them, but not any sort of location: branch info stuff. 2008-03-12T21:32:07 djfiander: they don't currently. the original idea was to point to an on-order copy in asset.copy which would hold that ... however, that is no longer the case 2008-03-12T21:32:15 I will rectify the situation in the db 2008-03-12T21:32:24 ok 2008-03-12T21:32:38 djfiander: call it owner? 2008-03-12T21:32:39 still adjusting to my new vision, eh? ;-) 2008-03-12T21:32:51 we need copy-location as well? 2008-03-12T21:32:59 miker_: that could get confusing with the owner of the picklist 2008-03-12T21:33:03 s/copy/shelving/ 2008-03-12T21:33:15 djfiander: heh ... I'm still claiming /some/ of it ... but yeah :) 2008-03-12T21:33:42 berick: in the acq system, I think we need a branch location only. shelving can live in the cat, can't it? 2008-03-12T21:33:45 it could ... we use owning_lib on the volume, which this will be going to as the copies are moved in 2008-03-12T21:34:43 djfiander: the shelving location will live in the catalog, but will start with "Stacks" unless somehow supplied 2008-03-12T21:34:47 miker_: might as well use that same name. Then we can just do a "move corresponding" 2008-03-12T21:35:14 true. 2008-03-12T21:35:24 ok ... well, shelving location on the copy is called ... location :) 2008-03-12T21:36:05 so the lineitem_detail will have barcode, call #, owning_lib, and location. 2008-03-12T21:36:21 as of now 2008-03-12T21:36:37 it's really starting to turn into a bib item record. but that's not surprising 2008-03-12T21:36:39 there are, of course, tons more we could add from the copy table 2008-03-12T21:36:54 * djfiander wonders if anybody got the COBOL joke 2008-03-12T21:37:37 ugh 2008-03-12T21:37:40 * miker_ wonders why djfiander would wonder that ;) 2008-03-12T21:38:12 if Bob was here, he'd get it 2008-03-12T21:38:23 djfiander: an assmbler joke, maybe 2008-03-12T21:38:29 MOV corresponding 2008-03-12T21:38:58 I haven't done assembler since the '386 2008-03-12T21:39:14 me either :) 2008-03-12T21:39:39 *think* 2008-03-12T21:39:51 yeah, it was the '386 gcc that I submitted the patch for 2008-03-12T21:39:54 *smirk* 2008-03-12T21:40:11 bah 2008-03-12T21:44:30 djfiander: DB, IDL and schema def updated with owning_lib and location 2008-03-12T21:44:57 time to go wandering to find some power 2008-03-12T21:44:57 tx 2008-03-12T21:45:12 OMG. dbs is Tony Stark! 2008-03-12T21:45:23 * berick updates the acq box 2008-03-12T21:45:35 errands 2008-03-12T21:45:36 biab 2008-03-12T21:47:09 iron dan 2008-03-12T21:47:17 (cue the sabbath) 2008-03-12T21:47:25 you googled that :P 2008-03-12T22:03:54 did NOT 2008-03-12T22:03:56 jerk 2008-03-12T22:04:00 heh 2008-03-12T22:04:06 okay, boarding time.. l8r 2008-03-12T22:13:05 ok, owning library displayed on detail records (but none of them have one set) 2008-03-12T22:13:45 w3rd 2008-03-12T22:18:02 *** agJohn has quit IRC 2008-03-12T22:20:47 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-03-12T22:23:16 the 'state' field in a lineitem is a timestamp, according to the IDL? 2008-03-12T22:26:13 djfiander: it's text ... I'm fixing that now. cut-n-paste, sorry 2008-03-12T22:26:37 that's what I figured :) 2008-03-12T22:26:46 svn updated 2008-03-12T23:19:49 *** djfiander has quit IRC 2008-03-12T23:55:51 *** JMCraig has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-03-12T23:55:53 *** JMCraig is now known as agJohn