2008-03-06T00:19:07 @later tell eeevil aaaaaargh - 8.1 can't handle multi-row INSERT stmts, which means trunk is pooched on debian for now because of my reworking of the seed values 2008-03-06T00:19:07 dbs: The operation succeeded. 2008-03-06T00:20:51 dbs: yeah, I mentioned that when you made the commits before ;) 2008-03-06T00:20:57 * dbs weeps 2008-03-06T00:26:03 miker_: so I suppose it's back to COPY format? 2008-03-06T00:26:16 well, or inserts 2008-03-06T00:26:44 mmm, true 2008-03-06T00:27:13 might be easier to use some vim magic to break up the list and shove the INSERT preamble in 2008-03-06T00:27:23 that's what I was just about to do 2008-03-06T00:28:01 I suffered some tongue-lashing on #postgresql for asking my question about multi-row insert stmts the wrong way 2008-03-06T00:28:12 so I've already done some penance... sigh. 2008-03-06T00:29:01 oh, that's no fun 2008-03-06T00:29:06 what happened? 2008-03-06T00:29:24 I mean, the guys in IRC are usually fairly nice 2008-03-06T00:29:36 *** greg-g has quit IRC 2008-03-06T00:32:18 there's some truth to the tongue-lashing, to be fair 2008-03-06T00:32:52 asked: " hrm - is there some config var that makes INSERT stmts that insert multiple rows return errors? (8.1)" 2008-03-06T00:33:35 after the answer, also got: "classic case of asking the wrong question - the question he _should_ have asked is "why is my INSERT with multiple-row VALUES clause failing?"" 2008-03-06T00:33:38 ahh ... "why does this seem to be turned off?" 2008-03-06T00:34:21 no big - just don't like feeling stupid 2008-03-06T00:34:45 I do. as evidenced by, well, my being stupid a lot ;) 2008-03-06T00:37:12 still waiting to see that... 2008-03-06T00:37:53 bah, flattery will get you everywhere .. I mean ... 2008-03-06T00:44:47 * jeff chuckles 2008-03-06T00:54:51 okay. more dumber seed values tested and checked in 2008-03-06T00:55:10 dbs++ 2008-03-06T00:57:02 easy karma boost! break stuff, then fix it months later 2008-03-06T00:57:12 ha! 2008-03-06T00:59:00 yay, with that, I think I've got a working system running on our 12GB box 2008-03-06T00:59:15 ready to start churning through a little more data 2008-03-06T00:59:23 but not tonight :) 2008-03-06T01:00:13 g'night 2008-03-06T01:00:16 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-03-06T01:01:56 *** EGUEST712 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-03-06T01:07:12 *** EGUEST712 has quit IRC 2008-03-06T01:42:53 *** peanutb has quit IRC 2008-03-06T01:43:01 *** scottmcd has quit IRC 2008-03-06T01:43:09 *** kados has quit IRC 2008-03-06T02:19:55 *** Mark__T has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-03-06T05:42:27 *** ibbo has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-03-06T07:15:54 *** greg-g has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-03-06T08:40:11 *** pmurray_away is now known as pmurray 2008-03-06T08:41:13 @seen azaroth 2008-03-06T08:41:13 pmurray: I have not seen azaroth. 2008-03-06T08:42:00 WTF? What happen to zoia? 2008-03-06T08:42:19 Whoops -- wrong channel. 2008-03-06T08:42:22 heh 2008-03-06T09:23:25 *** dbs has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-03-06T09:39:02 *** Karen_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-03-06T10:06:08 *** gmcharlt has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-03-06T10:11:31 *** Mark__T has left #openils-evergreen 2008-03-06T10:44:19 *** denials_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-03-06T10:44:31 *** randym has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-03-06T10:45:38 *** denials has quit IRC 2008-03-06T10:47:58 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2008-03-06T10:53:58 miker_: so, here's an interesting side effect from multi-domain opensrf. clients (e.g. gateway) need access to the settings server to find the IDL, but we can't expose the settings server cuz it stores passwords. 2008-03-06T10:54:23 wonder if we should add an IDL element to the ILS version of opensrf_core 2008-03-06T10:54:40 hrm... 2008-03-06T10:55:05 or, just an open-ils service ... since it is open-ils specific 2008-03-06T10:55:26 we could toss it in OpenILS::Application, next to the version call 2008-03-06T10:55:37 so that everyone (re)publishes it 2008-03-06T10:55:43 just the IDL, I mean 2008-03-06T10:55:54 *** gmcharlt has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-03-06T10:56:13 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2008-03-06T10:56:31 ok, a shared open-ils method. i like that 2008-03-06T10:56:59 does that sound ok? opensrf.open-ils.fetch_idl.{url|file} or something? 2008-03-06T10:57:43 * dbs nods 2008-03-06T10:58:35 andrew nagy wants to build an opensrf client for php for vufind 2008-03-06T10:59:00 YAY!!!!! 2008-03-06T10:59:41 dbs: rad 2008-03-06T11:00:51 yeah - we chatted about it over breakfast at code4lib, he would really like to bundle vufind and eg together 2008-03-06T11:02:37 gooood 2008-03-06T11:02:39 alrightttt 2008-03-06T11:02:49 that would be killer 2008-03-06T11:04:11 * dbs wonders semi-idly if vufind could be eg's opac v4 2008-03-06T11:04:30 * berick has had similar musings 2008-03-06T11:04:57 it (or any drop-in replacement) would need a lot of additional 'stuff' 2008-03-06T11:06:19 miker_: so, opensrf.open-ils.system.idl, which gets the IDL path from the settings server and returns it? 2008-03-06T11:09:24 nice, that took like 1 minute to implement and test ;) 2008-03-06T11:11:42 rad 2008-03-06T11:11:48 opensrf++ 2008-03-06T11:12:19 @karma opensrf 2008-03-06T11:12:19 dbs: Karma for "opensrf" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. 2008-03-06T11:12:28 That's a travesty! opensrf++ 2008-03-06T11:24:41 hm, i guess clients will have to assume a particular open-ils app is running in order to request the IDL from it 2008-03-06T11:28:12 open-ils.actor should always be running, since it handles all of the org data 2008-03-06T11:29:32 berick: or they could ask the router for a service list 2008-03-06T11:30:11 hrm... 2008-03-06T11:30:27 the gateway doesn't need the IDL, does it? 2008-03-06T11:31:04 no ... nm 2008-03-06T11:31:36 we could do the rouer list. i need to add the IDL method to the C apps, as well, to get that working generically 2008-03-06T11:36:20 right ...well, it'd have to be per-app for the C stuff 2008-03-06T11:36:29 there's no class indirection for that 2008-03-06T11:37:00 right, there is at the opensrf level, but not at the open-ils level 2008-03-06T11:37:02 on second thought, I think it's pretty safe to assume open-ils.actor or open-ils.search 2008-03-06T11:37:52 search seems more "public facing" to me, but either is fine I think 2008-03-06T11:43:16 *** randym has left #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-03-06T11:53:52 *** kados has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-03-06T11:53:55 *** kados has quit IRC 2008-03-06T11:54:09 *** gmcharlt has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-03-06T11:54:16 *** kados has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-03-06T12:36:46 *** gmcharlt_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-03-06T12:37:34 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2008-03-06T12:43:44 *** ibbo has quit IRC 2008-03-06T12:44:03 *** gmcharlt_ is now known as gmcharlt 2008-03-06T13:05:38 * berick wonders what VIP means in the context of acquisitions 2008-03-06T13:05:57 ? 2008-03-06T13:06:22 miker_: there was a comment to my acq update blog post: I trust the module will be vendor website or VIP friendly 2008-03-06T13:06:37 might be a protocol? 2008-03-06T13:06:46 probably 2008-03-06T13:06:46 berick: VIP is a protocol that only horizon implemented 2008-03-06T13:06:56 ahh 2008-03-06T13:06:56 vendor interoperability protocol I believe 2008-03-06T13:07:06 that sounds familiar now 2008-03-06T13:08:03 I think I mentioned something about it, somewhere, in an email or something (helpful, i know) 2008-03-06T13:24:26 yay! artunit is going to start digging back into acq 2008-03-06T13:33:40 *** phase_bb has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-03-06T13:56:17 * dbs starts downloading skype 2008-03-06T13:56:34 maybe i'll just run it on the n810 2008-03-06T14:02:22 dbs: do you have a skype handle yet? 2008-03-06T14:02:53 getting there 2008-03-06T14:04:13 sorry - lack of planning / not your emergency / i suck 2008-03-06T14:05:17 bah. so much for the n810 "missing packages, please install latest version of n810 os" 2008-03-06T14:10:48 is the session going to happen? not sure where the connection info is... 2008-03-06T14:10:59 just contact me on skype, I'm phasefx 2008-03-06T14:11:25 we're all on, want me to carry on and just let you slip in later? 2008-03-06T14:11:39 oh yeah, carry on 2008-03-06T14:12:43 I can't talk, I think 2008-03-06T14:12:54 can you hear Deb? 2008-03-06T14:12:54 me be mr. silent 2008-03-06T14:12:56 yep 2008-03-06T14:14:03 sorry dude 2008-03-06T14:16:59 * asmodai dials phasefx on skype 2008-03-06T14:49:02 phasefx just walked through opensrf_core.xml and opensrf.xml for demo.gapines.org - you might want to update some database and jabber passwords :) 2008-03-06T14:49:23 *tappety-tippety* 2008-03-06T14:50:53 hahaa 2008-03-06T14:53:15 berick: phasefx would like you to set up offline transaction support on demo.gapines.org 2008-03-06T14:53:39 * dbs : #openils-evergreen secretary since 2007 2008-03-06T14:54:29 dbs: yep, i'll set up the config 2008-03-06T14:54:58 ok, should be working now 2008-03-06T15:14:52 *** sarabee has quit IRC 2008-03-06T15:17:07 *** sarabee has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-03-06T15:35:39 *** sylvar has quit IRC 2008-03-06T15:56:45 dbs: And still as dashing as ever :P 2008-03-06T15:57:10 * asmodai is one week at his new job and already fixed a few Python bugs in the current code base *grin* 2008-03-06T15:57:48 asmodai: right on 2008-03-06T15:58:51 berick: have to start somewhere 2008-03-06T15:59:08 first day, I came in, 2 Iiyama ProLite 2201W monitors :D 2008-03-06T16:28:06 hah 2008-03-06T16:28:15 we found a Python bug with the trac/genshi guys 2008-03-06T16:28:28 http://bugs.python.org/issue2246 2008-03-06T16:35:02 *** pmurray is now known as pmurray_away 2008-03-06T17:09:17 heh - got my skype sound input working 2008-03-06T17:09:57 dbs: :D 2008-03-06T17:10:08 you can woo everyone with your deep voice next time 2008-03-06T17:11:09 the internets will probably turn it into a little-girl voice 2008-03-06T17:11:33 yah yah 2008-03-06T17:12:30 great session, phasefx - hard stuff to cover, and you do it with style 2008-03-06T17:18:36 thanks man 2008-03-06T17:39:01 *** Karen_ has left #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-03-06T17:57:37 *** gmcharlt_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-03-06T18:01:32 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2008-03-06T18:06:30 *** gmcharlt_ is now known as gmcharlt 2008-03-06T18:28:04 *** gmcharlt is now known as hoihoi 2008-03-06T18:28:07 *** hoihoi is now known as gmcharlt 2008-03-06T18:45:37 *** phase_bb has quit IRC 2008-03-06T19:05:44 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2008-03-06T19:06:59 *** djfiander has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-03-06T19:26:31 *** sarabee has quit IRC 2008-03-06T19:29:34 *** sarabee has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-03-06T19:45:47 bah 2008-03-06T19:46:24 I have updated my local src, installed the new opensrf library, fixed my opensrf config for the new domain stuff, and now I can't connect to the server 2008-03-06T19:52:21 hmmm 2008-03-06T20:03:25 djfiander: seeing anything useful in the logs? 2008-03-06T20:03:35 you know, i just thought of something 2008-03-06T20:03:43 yes 2008-03-06T20:03:50 the existing acq framework might be making calls to cstore 2008-03-06T20:04:02 probably 2008-03-06T20:04:04 which would fail, since it's running multi-domain 2008-03-06T20:04:08 i'll roll it back for now 2008-03-06T20:04:28 oh, cstore's multidomain 2008-03-06T20:04:34 yeah, that would be bad 2008-03-06T20:06:57 ok, rolled back multi-domain 2008-03-06T20:08:49 *** sarabee has quit IRC 2008-03-06T20:08:50 all fixed :) 2008-03-06T20:09:31 oops 2008-03-06T20:09:51 paster crashed. restart it, everything's cool 2008-03-06T20:18:05 *** JMCraig has quit IRC 2008-03-06T20:26:22 so, uh - you think there will be much acq to show for half an hour next week? 2008-03-06T20:27:14 do you mean Monday, or a week from today? 2008-03-06T20:27:17 :P 2008-03-06T20:28:59 more the latter than the former - wednesday 2008-03-06T20:29:49 maybe. the other day, when I said I had to learn ajax, I wasn't kidding. so a boring interface is far more likely than the one I want. 2008-03-06T20:30:01 boring is fine 2008-03-06T20:30:24 I strive for "boring" every day. 2008-03-06T20:30:43 better than "how exciting, I ate your data!" 2008-03-06T20:30:50 djfiander: did you email re: ajax and opensrf JS? 2008-03-06T20:31:04 berick: yes, I got it 2008-03-06T20:31:38 k, cool 2008-03-06T20:31:48 you don't think that helps me very much do you ? ;-) 2008-03-06T20:32:01 quick poll - new subversion repository name: egForge, egContrib, contrib, ... ? 2008-03-06T20:32:19 'forexample' ? ;-) 2008-03-06T20:33:03 * djfiander notes that various bits of the net have been eating his data all day. 2008-03-06T20:33:15 damned multi-machine synchronization 2008-03-06T20:33:24 hah 2008-03-06T20:33:43 feel free to name it in latin 2008-03-06T20:35:20 berick: how would you feel if I tore the acq controllers and templates apart completely and rebuilt them? 2008-03-06T20:35:43 "incubator" -> "incubus" (or for my code, "succubus" -> "suck-ubus" 2008-03-06T20:36:31 djfiander: i would feel like they were getting the love they need 2008-03-06T20:36:40 cool 2008-03-06T20:36:51 *** lisppaste6 has quit IRC 2008-03-06T20:37:11 * dbs gets tempted to go pylint-crazy on ILS python code at the same time, backs off 2008-03-06T20:37:34 heh 2008-03-06T20:37:39 dbs: yeah, don't bother. even if I was just tweaking it's all going away when we ajaxify it 2008-03-06T20:38:03 mmm - Open-ILS/src/python/* isn't going anywhere 2008-03-06T20:38:14 true. you can work on that :) 2008-03-06T20:38:28 "Contrib" it is 2008-03-06T20:38:40 playground for both opensrf and ILS stuff 2008-03-06T20:39:00 dbs: how boring :) 2008-03-06T20:39:09 that's me, man' 2008-03-06T20:39:11 fuck me. 2008-03-06T20:39:22 some part of my environment does not understand DTS 2008-03-06T20:39:28 or even DST 2008-03-06T20:39:31 dbs: if you don't mind, I think it would be good to keep opensrf and evergreen separate 2008-03-06T20:39:49 * dbs doesn't mind 2008-03-06T20:40:11 reason being, the less opensrf is specifically tied to evergreen the more likely it is that someone else will use it ... which would be a GoodThing(tm) 2008-03-06T20:40:37 ILS-Contrib and OpenSRF-Contrib it is, then 2008-03-06T20:40:47 dbs++ 2008-03-06T20:45:56 *** lisppaste6 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-03-06T21:02:36 *** sarabee has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-03-06T21:19:45 woo hoo! just created changeset 8888 in the ILS repo :) 2008-03-06T21:20:14 too bad amber missed it - 8 is her fave number 2008-03-06T21:20:24 it takes so little to amuse miker_ 2008-03-06T21:20:33 djfiander: you have no idea 2008-03-06T21:37:01 heh. the various attributes on a lineitem (isbn, pubdate, etc) have the MARC punctuation stuck on them 2008-03-06T21:37:20 isbn = "0916260690 :" 2008-03-06T21:37:49 lord, how MARC sux 2008-03-06T21:40:39 yes ineedy 2008-03-06T21:43:17 sing it, brother 2008-03-06T22:10:19 bedtime 2008-03-06T22:10:20 *** djfiander has quit IRC 2008-03-06T22:13:51 *** JMCraig has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-03-06T22:13:53 *** JMCraig is now known as agJohn 2008-03-06T22:23:34 dbs: what are you doin to my server? :) 2008-03-06T22:23:52 failing authdigest... sigh 2008-03-06T22:24:04 nagios was just complaining about apache 2008-03-06T22:25:11 bradl: setting up authentication for the new trac instances for the new contrib repositories, which (I assume) we don't want to share the same password file as the current repositories 2008-03-06T22:25:35 but apache doesn't appear to like authdigestfile directive, even though i've enabled the auth_digest module. 2008-03-06T22:26:03 so - sorry for the momentary lapses :( 2008-03-06T22:26:11 dbs: oh, I'm just being grumpy because I was paged ;) 2008-03-06T22:26:57 bradl: i humbly apologize - and will use apache2ctl -t in future 2008-03-06T22:27:02 haha 2008-03-06T22:28:45 dbs: nah, go ahead and beat it to a pulp, I'll just disable notifications on it for tonight 2008-03-06T22:30:35 *** sarabee has quit IRC 2008-03-06T22:33:01 *** sarabee has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-03-06T22:34:46 ah, authdigestfile was renamed to authuserfile between apache 2.0 and 2.2 2008-03-06T22:34:54 we're rolling now 2008-03-06T22:42:41 http://svn.open-ils.org/trac/ILS-Contrib/ 2008-03-06T22:43:02 (Terms and details to be refined, but that seems like a reasonable start to me) 2008-03-06T23:05:21 dbs++ 2008-03-06T23:10:27 nice responses on the jangle list 2008-03-06T23:10:44 rjw's concern probably stems from sitting in on the eg preconf 2008-03-06T23:11:18 opensrf install, of course, is a breeze in comparison to eg 2008-03-06T23:11:23 right 2008-03-06T23:11:43 I'd like to resurrect chopchop too... 2008-03-06T23:11:44 he might not have made that distinction though 2008-03-06T23:11:52 btw: another google summer of code project - port to windows? 2008-03-06T23:11:56 well, nobody does :( 2008-03-06T23:12:01 ha! 2008-03-06T23:12:30 (I can't mentor that one) 2008-03-06T23:12:46 well, I /think/ ti wouldn't be too bad ... but it's been so long since I did winsock development 2008-03-06T23:13:29 yeah - I just don't know the way of the win32 env 2008-03-06T23:13:51 it's not purty.... 2008-03-06T23:14:46 SocketOjbect s = W32CreateSocketObject(addr,NULL,NULL,NULL,port,NULL,NULL,NULL,NULL,NULL); 2008-03-06T23:14:50 and the like 2008-03-06T23:15:13 oh, that looks all too painful (and I've seen some of that ages ago) 2008-03-06T23:15:19 that's completely made up, of course ... I just remember the huge strings of NULLs 2008-03-06T23:15:25 oh right - WINE 2008-03-06T23:15:55 I sent a few patches to the Wine project billions and billions of years ago 2008-03-06T23:16:26 you've sprinkled the love all over creation, it would seem :) 2008-03-06T23:16:27 used to read the mailing list religiously; ergo, lots of win32 api exposure 2008-03-06T23:16:46 "sprinkle" is a good verb, suggests the approximate quality of that love 2008-03-06T23:17:53 I ported a windows lib to UNIX in a previous life, and built a gtk+guile mpg123 front end using it 2008-03-06T23:18:30 I wouldn't want to do that again ... 2008-03-06T23:18:30 okay - sleepy time for me 2008-03-06T23:18:37 niters 2008-03-06T23:18:43 *** dbs has quit IRC