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Lowest karma: "rewriting_config_files_on_exit" (-1), "bah... dbs" (-1), and "drwxr-xr-x and -rw-r--r" (-1). 2008-02-14T01:18:27 heh 2008-02-14T01:18:41 phasefx++ # botmasta 2008-02-14T01:34:38 *** EGUEST785 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-02-14T06:39:51 *** ibbo has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-02-14T06:42:25 *** EGUEST977 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-02-14T06:54:48 *** EGUEST977 has left #openils-evergreen 2008-02-14T08:07:16 *** greg-g has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-02-14T08:34:24 *** randym has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-02-14T08:59:00 *** rsinger_ is now known as rsinger 2008-02-14T09:06:08 *** dbs has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-02-14T09:17:28 hey georgia folk - I'm getting asked for the HP make/model you're running PINES on because of paranoia after our Dell servers failed to install Debian 2008-02-14T09:18:59 would you be willing to entertain an email from a sysadmin looking for details and soothed nerves? 2008-02-14T09:19:43 *** gsf has quit IRC 2008-02-14T09:21:59 gotta run - bbiab 2008-02-14T09:24:55 of course... be happy to help 2008-02-14T09:37:44 *** gsf has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-02-14T09:40:30 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-02-14T09:51:35 *** lisppaste6 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-02-14T10:01:17 hrm. i wonder what dell hardware they had that didn't take debian. 2008-02-14T10:08:42 I wish someone who designed the dspace.org site knew that JPEG sucks for high contrast text only images. 2008-02-14T10:46:56 *** EGUEST013 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-02-14T10:48:42 jeff: new PERC/6(i?) I think ... there's a long and storied history of Dell's "special" PERC RAID controllers and linux :P 2008-02-14T10:51:46 -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =- 2008-02-14T10:52:12 ah. we're using perc5 controllers with no problems. i've found http://linux.dell.com/debian_9g.shtml and http://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-poweredge/ to be helpful. 2008-02-14T10:52:52 it isn't a perfect fit, but they're getting much better about saying "this is supported, this will work but is unsupported, this won't work..." 2008-02-14T10:53:02 but of course, the officially supported things work best ;) 2008-02-14T10:55:54 jeff: that's great! I know a lot of people have been begging Dell to support Linux more 2008-02-14T10:56:15 I'd bet, also, that better support of Linux from Dell would mean more sales 2008-02-14T10:58:32 i suspect that when they officially support a debian-like distro, it'll probably be Ubuntu "server" 2008-02-14T10:59:26 When they officially support a debian-like distro, it will certainly be a plus for a lot of people IMHO 2008-02-14T11:00:18 agreed! 2008-02-14T11:00:48 in the meantime, the hardware we have works with Etch, and i'll be careful of the perc6 when we order new servers :) 2008-02-14T11:03:35 jeff: well, the scary thing is that even within a particular PERC generation (and in some cases the same model letter), the underlying hardware can be different ... this was the case with the PERC3 line ... it became a crap shoot for a while, so I ended up buying Mylex (IIRC) OEM cards instead of using the built in PERCs 2008-02-14T11:03:36 http://lists.us.dell.com/pipermail/linux-poweredge/2008-January/034358.html implies that PERC6 is supported in the mainline kernel, but perhaps not in 2.6.18, which is what Etch uses. 2008-02-14T11:03:49 *** dbs_mobile has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-02-14T11:04:04 eeevil: i think they've gotten better about that, but I know it was terrible for a while there. 2008-02-14T11:04:47 jeff: I hope so! I'll go back to them if they get their act together, perhps ;) 2008-02-14T11:05:07 damn you miker_ and your fast typing skillz! 2008-02-14T11:05:25 dbs_mobile: I know, right ;) 2008-02-14T11:05:27 I was all for Dell for a long time, but HP has been great the last few years 2008-02-14T11:05:51 dbs: yeah... I thought about not sending that ... sorry for toe stomping ;) 2008-02-14T11:05:57 -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =- 2008-02-14T11:06:09 * dbs_mobile is using the irc gateway over his shiny new mobile phone 2008-02-14T11:06:48 eeevil: we've been the other way around... proliants forever, and now starting to try dell poweredge servers. :) 2008-02-14T11:06:54 dbs_mobile: cool! so, you got the data plan that djfiander's been talking about? 2008-02-14T11:06:55 correctamundo, dmcmorris_esi 2008-02-14T11:07:17 i am extremely annoyed that dell's "versa" rails do not work with our rack. :P 2008-02-14T11:07:19 jeff: oh, well, compaq is another thing altogether ;) ... 2008-02-14T11:07:23 i thought that they had gotten over all that. 2008-02-14T11:07:47 similar plan, same phone 2008-02-14T11:07:50 *** ecorrado has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-02-14T11:08:08 eeevil: isn't the HP ProLiant line the only server line in that class that HP sells? I thought they killed the old NetServer brand. 2008-02-14T11:08:13 dbs_mobile: is that the thing that you and my co-worker were working on? 2008-02-14T11:08:49 jeff: I think that's true, but the compaq-iness seems to have been washed off them, for the most part 2008-02-14T11:09:03 or, it could just be "out of sight, out of mind" for me 2008-02-14T11:09:19 brb 2008-02-14T11:09:39 dmcmorris_esi: no, another gadget (win mobile, sigh) 2008-02-14T11:10:29 windows_mobile-- 2008-02-14T11:10:34 utter suckage 2008-02-14T11:11:20 * dbs_mobile looks forward to the scrollback, given his dell woes. rhel 5? no sir! 2008-02-14T11:12:40 asmodai: i know, i know 2008-02-14T11:14:49 asmodai: i know, i know 2008-02-14T11:14:49 *** dbs_mobile has quit IRC 2008-02-14T11:15:05 *** dbs_mobile has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-02-14T11:16:08 lame... refresh on this is teh suck. sorry folks 2008-02-14T11:18:46 *** dbs_mobile has quit IRC 2008-02-14T11:23:49 hi all... is there any documentation on how to configure/add new libraries into Evergreen? I searched on open-ils.org but didn't find anything 2008-02-14T11:24:29 please insert $1 into the slot, sir 2008-02-14T11:24:41 ;) 2008-02-14T11:25:08 * ecorrado insertes $1 into coffee cup holder on his computer 2008-02-14T11:25:11 hehe 2008-02-14T11:26:03 ecorrado: I /think/ there was something in the mailing list archives 2008-02-14T11:26:23 but, in general, I /think/ you simply run the bootstrap CGI to add the branch(es) 2008-02-14T11:26:30 then autogen (which is in the wiki) 2008-02-14T11:26:39 that is my understanding as well 2008-02-14T11:27:00 (the cgi will allow you to add systems/branches) 2008-02-14T11:27:13 I remember asking the question a while back, and I'm pretty sure that was the answer I was given ;) 2008-02-14T11:27:58 ok, that gives me a shot at findign something 2008-02-14T11:45:49 ecorrado: http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-admin:policies:ou&s=config%20cgi 2008-02-14T11:47:07 ecorrado: it doesn't exist now, but I'm starting work on a new/better global admin interface 2008-02-14T11:47:20 eeevil++ 2008-02-14T11:55:55 *** dbs has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-02-14T12:11:51 *** Karen_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-02-14T12:29:57 *** djfiander has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-02-14T12:39:52 *** ecorrado is now known as edc_fooding 2008-02-14T13:16:27 *** Karen__ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-02-14T13:17:29 *** Karen_ has quit IRC 2008-02-14T13:27:56 * dbs shuts up on the lists 2008-02-14T13:28:07 * dbs kisses bradl for hardware help 2008-02-14T13:28:08 *** ibbo has quit IRC 2008-02-14T13:31:58 Karen__++ # nice documentation work on the wiki - I'm running across pages that you've added or updated from time to time and they look great 2008-02-14T13:40:10 you kiss bradl but you only ++ Karen__ -- peculiar to say the least... 2008-02-14T13:45:12 bradl doesn't need any more karma 2008-02-14T13:50:26 dbs and I have a special relationship 2008-02-14T13:50:49 I also take 10% off the top of any karma given in this channel 2008-02-14T13:51:13 djfiander: would you freak out if I shaved my head and showed up with an HTC Touch? 2008-02-14T13:51:36 dbs: as long as you have a goatee, you're the evil one. That's the star trek rule 2008-02-14T13:51:45 djfiander: perfect 2008-02-14T13:52:21 dbs: if you're switching to Bell, check out "Edvantage" http://www.edvantage.ca/english/main-e.asp 2008-02-14T13:52:30 djfiander: too late 2008-02-14T13:52:34 as "faculty" we can get a better package 2008-02-14T13:52:36 bummer. 2008-02-14T13:53:04 as of last night, i stuck with telus and ponied up for the $15/month unlimited web, email, and IM package 2008-02-14T13:53:36 that's basically what I've got on my HTC 2008-02-14T13:55:01 yeah - for $8 less, I know 2008-02-14T13:55:10 but asmodai is still taunting us for having windows mobile 2008-02-14T14:06:25 dbs: a belated thank you on the comment about documentation. :) 2008-02-14T14:06:48 Karen__: well it was a belated thank you to you in the first place :) 2008-02-14T14:14:52 *** phase_bb2 has quit IRC 2008-02-14T14:54:16 *** phase_bb has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-02-14T15:42:40 dbs: I don't have unlimited IM... that's an extra cost. 2008-02-14T15:43:09 dbs: windows mobile definitely suxors. 2008-02-14T15:43:16 djfiander: i guess that's where my extra $8 goes - well, that and email, but who cares when you have gmail 2008-02-14T15:45:03 *** edc_fooding is now known as ecorrado 2008-02-14T16:01:05 ecorrado: for your ejabberd issue... if you do a `netstat -anp | grep LISTEN`, that might help 2008-02-14T16:01:27 (looking for epmd and bind) 2008-02-14T16:01:42 curious if it's bound to a specific IP or 0.0.0.0 2008-02-14T16:07:22 *** Branflakes has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-02-14T16:10:26 dmcmorris_esi: ejabber doesn't seem to be listed 2008-02-14T16:11:19 so my guess is it is failing right away on something (at least now that is my guess) 2008-02-14T16:17:18 *** pmurray is now known as pmurray_away 2008-02-14T16:18:08 ecorrado: sorry about the delay 2008-02-14T16:18:22 it sounds to me like it (ejabberd) either isn't started, or isn't starting 2008-02-14T16:18:32 although it 2008-02-14T16:18:38 although it was listed in the ps 2008-02-14T16:23:20 *** Branflakes has quit IRC 2008-02-14T16:27:55 I think I would stop Evergreen, stop ejabberd (ejabberdctl stop or /etc/init.d/ejabberd stop), ensure all beam/epmd processes are dead, and try starting ejabberd again 2008-02-14T16:34:57 dmcmorris_esi: interesting, I killed off an epmd process that has been running since just after I changed the host name, but that didn't get it to work, however I now have a log (/var/log/ejabberd/sasl.log) with a CRASH REPORT (even though a ps-aef still shows the javbber process running, it doesn't accept connections and doesn't show up in the netstat command 2008-02-14T16:35:33 of course, this crash report doesn'r mean anythign to me 2008-02-14T16:36:28 IIRC, there's epmd and beam, both will have to die. 2008-02-14T16:36:41 there was no beam running 2008-02-14T16:36:43 crash report sounds interesting 2008-02-14T16:37:07 `ejabberdctl restart` should do it automatically... 2008-02-14T16:38:14 it doesn't mean much to me, but the error info in the log says: 2008-02-14T16:38:16 error_info: {bad_return,{{ejabberd_app,start,[normal,[]]}, 2008-02-14T16:38:16 {'EXIT',{{badmatch,{aborted,{no_exists,config}}}, 2008-02-14T16:38:19 [{ejabberd_config,set_opts,1}, 2008-02-14T16:38:22 {ejabberd_app,start,2}, 2008-02-14T16:38:24 {application_master,start_it_old,4}]}}}} 2008-02-14T16:38:42 this "no_exists,config" might mean something 2008-02-14T16:39:03 yeah... did you change the hostname in your ejabberd configs too? 2008-02-14T16:41:16 I did, but maybe I did it wrong.... 2008-02-14T16:41:19 * ecorrado looks 2008-02-14T16:41:46 I think there was a couple of places.... 2008-02-14T16:41:56 I'm faaaaaaar from an ejabberd expert 2008-02-14T16:42:15 hmmm.... 2008-02-14T16:42:40 I wonder if the ejabberd.pem certificate is now a problem 2008-02-14T16:42:55 *** djfiander has quit IRC 2008-02-14T16:43:03 if that takes into account the host name, I might need to create a new one 2008-02-14T16:43:13 * ecorrado wonders how to create a new one 2008-02-14T16:43:25 it's worth a shot, I suppose... I don't think I /ever/ created one... 2008-02-14T16:44:14 dmcmorris_esi: I don't remember either, but I am guessign it is automaticlaly created on install 2008-02-14T16:46:37 ecorrado: dpkg-reconfigure ejabberd perhaps? 2008-02-14T16:47:00 sounds almost like a replay of a discussion with sylvar a few days back... 2008-02-14T16:47:18 dbs worth a shoot 2008-02-14T16:47:25 oh yeah, dbs++ 2008-02-14T16:47:41 that's what I get for just sitting idle here and not readin' 2008-02-14T16:47:57 if i recall correctly, the user that you register with ejabberdctl as an admin user has a specific domain associated with it 2008-02-14T16:48:31 ejabberd is also super-sensitive about file ownership and permissions in places spread throughout the filesystem 2008-02-14T16:48:38 sigh. we need an ejabberd expert. 2008-02-14T16:50:07 well, just doing areconfig didn't work, but maybe if I erease the cert (or rename it) first it will help 2008-02-14T16:50:59 any idea if the ejabber admin user needs a specific name... I don't remember creating one during the install 2008-02-14T16:54:14 * ecorrado takes defalt user name 2008-02-14T16:57:40 hmmm.... no luck :-( 2008-02-14T16:58:03 but /me thinks this is probably the right place tobe looking 2008-02-14T16:59:05 Could pastebin all your configurations and logs to http://paste.lisp.org/openils-evergreen ;) 2008-02-14T17:00:07 dmcmorris_esi: let me vclean out the logs and try it once more, and I'll paste it 2008-02-14T17:01:20 ecorrado: I can also paste my own ejabberd.cfg that I'm running on debian, if that helps 2008-02-14T17:02:13 http://paste.lisp.org/new/openils-evergreen rather 2008-02-14T17:02:26 when I do a reconfigure, it tries to register a user and tiems out.... I think that is because it isn't satrtign correctly 2008-02-14T17:02:46 dbs++ #thanks 2008-02-14T17:04:39 dbs pasted "dbs working ejabberd.cfg for debian" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/55916 2008-02-14T17:05:36 ecorrado pasted " /var/log/ejabberd/sasl.log" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/55917 2008-02-14T17:05:40 dmcmorris pasted "a photocopy of his bum" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/55918 2008-02-14T17:06:15 SASL is just inter-[jabber]server communication, isn't it? 2008-02-14T17:06:31 yeah, sasl shouldn't be necessary 2008-02-14T17:07:39 * ecorrado looks at dbs's config to see if anything is different 2008-02-14T17:07:45 -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =- 2008-02-14T17:08:17 ecorrado: maybe try a diff just for good measure 2008-02-14T17:08:19 well, my hosts are differnt 2008-02-14T17:08:44 I think that could be an issue.... /me changes it 2008-02-14T17:09:33 speaking of hosts... hosts /file/? 2008-02-14T17:10:42 ooh, very good point dmcmorris_esi 2008-02-14T17:10:59 dmcmorris_esi: do you mean the /etc/hosts file? 2008-02-14T17:11:00 * dbs has 127.0.1.1 denials.localdomain denials 2008-02-14T17:11:06 ecorrado: yeah 2008-02-14T17:11:28 I think that entry makes ejabberd happier 2008-02-14T17:11:44 ok, buh bye and good luck ;) 2008-02-14T17:11:45 hmmm... i think that might be it 2008-02-14T17:11:55 it still has the old name 2008-02-14T17:15:12 well, I can telnet now after ficing /etc/hosts and editing ejabber.cfg 2008-02-14T17:15:35 * ecorrado continues tryign to satrt evergreen 2008-02-14T17:16:28 router seems to start! 2008-02-14T17:18:28 *** randym has left #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-02-14T17:20:45 the well, at least I've moved forward.. the srfsh user can't login though 2008-02-14T17:44:25 error? 2008-02-14T17:44:33 no error 2008-02-14T17:45:11 it just returned a few question marks 2008-02-14T17:46:14 corrado@darkstar:~$ /openils/bin/srfsh 2008-02-14T17:46:14 srfsh# login admin open-ils 2008-02-14T17:46:14 ???: login admin open-ils 2008-02-14T17:46:14 srfsh# 2008-02-14T17:47:31 ecorrado pasted "srfsh log file" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/55920 2008-02-14T17:49:30 ah - do you have .srfsh.xml set up? 2008-02-14T17:50:06 router@localhost is what you expect to connect to? 2008-02-14T17:50:52 I think so 2008-02-14T17:51:07 *** Karen__ has left #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-02-14T17:51:09 * ecorrado knows next to nothing about jabber 2008-02-14T17:51:23 or open srf 2008-02-14T17:52:56 when you changed your hostname, did you register your jabber users using the new hostname? 2008-02-14T17:53:25 jabber distinguishes between router@localhost and router@foobar 2008-02-14T17:53:32 I thought it was still using the internel localhost 2008-02-14T17:54:25 okay - so telnet localhost 5222 works (returns XML junk when you type stuff)? 2008-02-14T17:55:10 (I was just confused because you said that hosts still had the old name - sounded like there was a change that would make the ejabberd gods unhappy) 2008-02-14T17:55:49 dbs: yep, I get garbage xml when I type garbage in telnet 2008-02-14T17:56:41 dbs: I'm sure I messed soemthign up with it..... I thought it was supposed to use localhost for jabber, but I don't really know how it works. 2008-02-14T17:56:54 I changed where I had tcnj-85 to darkstar 2008-02-14T17:57:05 * ecorrado thought that was all he would have to do 2008-02-14T17:57:24 hmmm 2008-02-14T17:57:47 and the users were registered as router@localhost, not router@tcnj-85 2008-02-14T17:58:26 I don't remember registerign any users 2008-02-14T17:58:35 oh! 2008-02-14T17:58:49 did srfsh ever work? 2008-02-14T17:59:17 if I change the "localhost" to "darkstar" in the .srfsh.xml I get a not able to bootsrap error 2008-02-14T17:59:39 dbs: yep... Evergreen was working at one point before I changed the host name 2008-02-14T17:59:40 sounds like localhost is the right option, at least it's trying to connect 2008-02-14T18:00:13 have you stopped opensrf_c, opensrf_perl, opensrf_router, memcached, and then started them all again in reverse order? 2008-02-14T18:00:22 I'm guessing the hostname must need to be chaged/edited somewhere else 2008-02-14T18:00:33 dbs: yep, I tried it a few times 2008-02-14T18:00:40 okay... hmm 2008-02-14T18:00:59 hmmm.... 2008-02-14T18:01:14 opensrf_core.xml has been updated? 2008-02-14T18:02:23 (on my laptop, all of the and and entries are "localhost") 2008-02-14T18:02:23 it is using localhost 2008-02-14T18:02:33 that is what I have 2008-02-14T18:02:44 anything useful in /openils/var/log/router.log? 2008-02-14T18:03:13 or osrfsys.log? 2008-02-14T18:03:44 the only hint in openils/var/log/router.log is: 2008-02-14T18:03:55 router 2008-02-14 17:53:10 [WARN:10569:osrf_router.c:64:] Top level select call 2008-02-14T18:03:59 failed with errno 4 2008-02-14T18:04:08 okay - have to get ready to go for valentine's day dinner/movie or will get killed 2008-02-14T18:04:39 dbs: yea, I should go home and play with the cats 2008-02-14T18:05:07 we'll attack this tomorrow 2008-02-14T18:05:31 ok, I think there maybe some hint sin osrfsys.log 2008-02-14T18:05:40 have a nice diner/movie 2008-02-14T18:05:51 (or post to the list tonight and I'll see it around midnight) 2008-02-14T18:06:22 throw some catnip for me 2008-02-14T18:06:24 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-02-14T18:07:07 *** gmcharlt_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-02-14T18:08:12 ecorrado pasted "/openils/var/log/osrfsys.log" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/55921 2008-02-14T18:12:17 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2008-02-14T18:17:52 *** gmcharlt_ is now known as gmcharlt 2008-02-14T18:23:39 *** ecorrado is now known as edc_detached 2008-02-14T20:04:19 *** dmcmorris_esi has left #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-02-14T21:07:10 *** kados has quit IRC 2008-02-14T21:08:07 *** scottmcd has quit IRC 2008-02-14T21:26:38 *** scottmcd has joined #openils-evergreen