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(just working through server/circ/utils.js) 2008-02-11T09:03:01 I hope you don't mind if I unravel them to one statement per line as I i18n-ize the beast 2008-02-11T09:28:07 dbs: it does mean that you have to transport more bytes though 2008-02-11T09:29:22 asmodai: true! hopefully mod_gzip is in use and client-side caching is in effect 2008-02-11T09:31:28 dbs: I can understand that for a library system such savings make a lot of sense 2008-02-11T09:32:13 asmodai: yep - although we could make that a build time optimization 2008-02-11T09:32:41 best of both worlds: easy source code to read, with automated file shrinkage 2008-02-11T09:34:33 *** Karen_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-02-11T09:34:45 true 2008-02-11T09:47:43 *** phase_bb has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-02-11T10:57:57 *** sylvar has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-02-11T10:59:52 Question for y'all. I'm setting up a second Evergreen test server for public libraries, and in step #23 of http://www.open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=installing_evergreen_1.2_on_ubuntu_7.10 I've made the changes to ejabberd.cfg and tried to restart ejabberd, but I got this: "RPC failed on the node 'ejabberd@evergreen-pl-test': nodedown" 2008-02-11T11:00:00 Question is: huh? 2008-02-11T11:01:06 sylvar: ejabberd is really stupid when it comes to stopping and starting 2008-02-11T11:01:27 does "ps wax | grep erl" show anything useful? 2008-02-11T11:02:39 17097 ? S 0:00 /usr/lib/erlang/erts-5.5.5/bin/epmd -daemon 2008-02-11T11:02:59 and, of course, grep erl 2008-02-11T11:03:42 hmm. sounds like ejabberd really isn't running 2008-02-11T11:04:54 nothing interesting in /var/log/ejabberd/ejabberd.log ? 2008-02-11T11:05:00 well, that's the same error message I get when I sudo ejabberdctl start, too. 2008-02-11T11:05:04 hmm, lemme see 2008-02-11T11:05:53 and hosts is set up corrently in /etc/ejabberd/ejabberd.cfg ? 2008-02-11T11:06:03 it says /var/log/ejabberd/ejabberd.log: No such file or directory 2008-02-11T11:06:07 my hosts line: {hosts, ["localhost", "denials", "denials.localdomain"]}. 2008-02-11T11:07:16 the hosts line now includes hostname.localdomain (it didn't before); same error 2008-02-11T11:07:21 killall epmd beam, make sure ejabberd can read ejabberd.cfg 2008-02-11T11:08:43 OK, killed; /etc/ejabberd and /etc/ejabberd.cfg are owned by and readable by ejabberd 2008-02-11T11:09:11 though /etc/ejabberd/inetrc is owned by root (but 644, so also readable by ejabberd) 2008-02-11T11:09:23 that should be OK 2008-02-11T11:10:50 OK. I tried starting ejabberdctl again; same error message. Do I need to start epmd or does it come back automatically? 2008-02-11T11:11:09 epmd starts automatically 2008-02-11T11:11:20 ok 2008-02-11T11:11:40 try just starting it, instead of restarting it (after killing those processes 2008-02-11T11:12:01 I did; same error. Would settings-tester.pl be useful yet, or only after the full config is finished? 2008-02-11T11:12:24 it wouldn't be useful yet 2008-02-11T11:12:53 if ejabberd won't run on its own, settings-tester won't help 2008-02-11T11:12:56 OK 2008-02-11T11:13:22 sylvar: so there's really no /var/log/ejabberd directory? 2008-02-11T11:13:50 there is, it's got sasl.log in it 2008-02-11T11:14:24 ah - and what does it say? 2008-02-11T11:15:50 sylvar pasted "Some recent entries from sasl.log" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/55737 2008-02-11T11:17:25 Don't trust the timestamps, btw, I just noticed I need to install and run rdate. 2008-02-11T11:19:00 my gut says it's a typo in the config. ubuntu/debian generally handles everything else for you in a sane manner 2008-02-11T11:19:10 OK. I'll count my parentheses. 2008-02-11T11:21:55 Hmm. I don't see anything obvious in ejabberd.cfg... 2008-02-11T11:23:12 sylvar annotated #55737 with "ejabberd.cfg" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/55737#1 2008-02-11T11:25:13 ah, the admin user might be messed up 2008-02-11T11:25:33 mine: {acl, admin, {user, "", "localhost"}}. 2008-02-11T11:31:58 OK, so should those lines read {acl, admin, {user, "", "evergreen"}} or {acl, admin, {user, "evergreen", "localhost"}}, or what? 2008-02-11T11:32:17 note the beginning of step #23 in http://www.open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=installing_evergreen_1.2_on_ubuntu_7.10 2008-02-11T11:33:09 sylvar: don't mind me, i used the debian install instructions on my ubuntu 7.10 machine 2008-02-11T11:34:15 I wonder, though, if you have to register the ejabberd users before changing the admin section of the config 2008-02-11T11:34:30 hmm. well, I tried adding the line you've got, and commenting out the others, and that didn't do it 2008-02-11T11:34:48 you know, I bet you're right 2008-02-11T11:36:07 hmm, i wonder they change in admin user (in the wiki) 2008-02-11T11:36:12 s/in// 2008-02-11T11:36:23 unfortunately, I can't get ejabberd to start now, so I can't register the new users either 2008-02-11T11:36:39 ugh 2008-02-11T11:37:21 I remember getting in a horrible situation with ejabberd on gentoo for a while, where a bad start / stop sequence left var files with wrong ownership/permissions 2008-02-11T11:37:29 it was not fun to recover from 2008-02-11T11:38:04 I'm willing to uninstall ejabberd and reinstall it if that's an easier way to do it 2008-02-11T11:38:07 with the guy from uqam, we had him completely uninstall and reinstall ejabberd 2008-02-11T11:38:32 yeah - that might work; keep your cfg around though to make your life easier 2008-02-11T11:39:37 man, three ?: clauses in a single stmt 2008-02-11T11:41:48 dbs: staff client? 2008-02-11T11:41:52 * berick chuckles 2008-02-11T11:42:00 berick: how'd you guess? :) 2008-02-11T11:42:13 i think 2 is my limit 2008-02-11T11:43:05 reduced to two separate, nicely indented if() statements 2008-02-11T11:43:52 sylvar annotated #55737 with "Oh, for crying out loud." at http://paste.lisp.org/display/55737#2 2008-02-11T11:44:10 I expect phasefx_ to lay a thorough beating on me with all his military might when I see him next 2008-02-11T11:44:48 sylvar: ejabberd isn't recognizing that hostname 2008-02-11T11:45:03 try " sudo ejabberdctl register evergreen localhost password" or something like that first 2008-02-11T11:45:37 dbs: same error 2008-02-11T11:46:00 should I be thinking about a DNS problem? 2008-02-11T11:46:19 does ping evergreen-pl-test work? 2008-02-11T11:46:37 yes 2008-02-11T11:47:56 anything visible in sasl.log or ejabberd.log? 2008-02-11T11:48:10 time to break out the big guns... edit /etc/init.d/ejabberd, change (and backup) this line: su $EJABBERDUSER -c "$EJABBERD -noshell -detached" --- get rid of -noshell -detached 2008-02-11T11:48:32 kill it all, start it up, it will run in the foreground and may give you some useful error info 2008-02-11T11:50:50 sudo /etc/init.d/ejabberd start 2008-02-11T11:50:51 Starting jabber server: ejabberdErlang (BEAM) emulator version 5.5.5 [source] [async-threads:0] [kernel-poll:false] 2008-02-11T11:50:53 Eshell V5.5.5 (abort with ^G) 2008-02-11T11:50:54 (ejabberd@evergreen-pl-test)1> 2008-02-11T11:51:28 that's all you got? 2008-02-11T11:51:48 mind you, I've been doing sudo ejabberdctl start, not running /etc/init.d/ejabberd start; this is the first time I used /etc/init.d/ejabberd 2008-02-11T11:52:04 but, yes, that's all I got 2008-02-11T11:53:08 that's odd, i usually get pages of output 2008-02-11T11:53:50 sylvar: actually, will you put "-noshell" back in and try that/ 2008-02-11T11:53:52 ? 2008-02-11T11:59:58 dbs: you have a problem with triple trinary operators? :D make it sane, man, make it sane 2008-02-11T12:00:58 phasefx_: I'm saning it up 2008-02-11T12:02:03 dbs++ 2008-02-11T12:02:05 @karma 2008-02-11T12:02:05 phasefx_: Highest karma: "dbs" (1) and "rewriting_config_files_on_exit" (-1). Lowest karma: "rewriting_config_files_on_exit" (-1) and "dbs" (1). 2008-02-11T12:02:05 what do you think about asmodai's concern about additional bytes going over the wire - should we add a build-time "compression" step for the js and xul? 2008-02-11T12:02:56 pinesol++ 2008-02-11T12:02:58 welcome back 2008-02-11T12:03:10 smells piney fresh in here 2008-02-11T12:03:19 oh wow... where'd he come from? 2008-02-11T12:04:49 dbs: I'm not against compression. There are other things we can work on too to reduce bandwidth usage.. there are some redundant calls we can eliminate.. we can do more caching of retrieved data.. we can eliminate CGI-style URL query params, which hinder caching 2008-02-11T12:05:33 yeah, I was wondering whether it would make sense to make the server work harder by creating higher-level OpenSRF methods 2008-02-11T12:05:53 foo.xul gets cached, but foo.xul?id=1 and foo.xul?id=2 get cached separately.. so if id is always different, you gain little from the caching.. that sort of thing 2008-02-11T12:06:17 I was talking with a person preparing an rfp for a new ils who would really like to use EG for their consortium, but one of their branches only has dial-up 2008-02-11T12:06:32 seems like that might be a killer at the moment 2008-02-11T12:07:01 -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =- 2008-02-11T12:07:08 dbs: I'd like to see thinner clients.. easier to unit test the logic 2008-02-11T12:07:28 and easier to build new clients :) 2008-02-11T12:07:36 yeah :) 2008-02-11T12:22:38 73% of the way through server/circ/util.js 2008-02-11T12:22:46 man, the thing is a monster 2008-02-11T12:24:32 should throw all those column definitions into the idl :D 2008-02-11T12:29:51 *** dmcmorris_esi has quit IRC 2008-02-11T12:30:09 *** dmcmorris_esi has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-02-11T12:39:33 sylvar annotated #55737 with "Output from sudo /etc/init.d/ejabberd start" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/55737#3 2008-02-11T12:40:20 berick: there you go; do you want the erl_crash.dump file too or does this explain it? 2008-02-11T12:41:39 "inet_tcp",{{badmatch,{error,duplicate_name}} doesn't sound good 2008-02-11T12:42:45 indeed 2008-02-11T12:43:16 that indicates it's already running 2008-02-11T12:43:20 (according to google) 2008-02-11T12:43:30 killall beam; killall epmd; ? 2008-02-11T12:43:39 after /etc/init.d/ejabberd stop, that is 2008-02-11T12:44:11 sylvar annotated #55737 with "Stopping ejabberd first..." at http://paste.lisp.org/display/55737#4 2008-02-11T12:44:12 sylvar annotated #55737 with "Stopping ejabberd first..." at http://paste.lisp.org/display/55737#5 2008-02-11T12:44:24 oops, double-paste 2008-02-11T12:44:27 ok 2008-02-11T12:45:31 sylvar annotated #55737 with "Well, it's a DIFFERENT error..." at http://paste.lisp.org/display/55737#6 2008-02-11T12:46:56 someone cut off my middle left finger, please; it keeps pressing the overly sensitive D key which is NOT good in vim 2008-02-11T12:47:48 I see nothing listening on 5222 at the moment. 2008-02-11T12:48:16 does 'ps ax | grep beam" or "ps ax | grep epmd" show anything? 2008-02-11T12:52:07 Yes, they're both running 2008-02-11T12:52:55 make sure those processes are dead before you try running again 2008-02-11T12:55:48 hmm. killall didn't do it, but kill -9 did... sorta. epmd is gone; beam is 'defunct'. 2008-02-11T12:56:00 is that good enough? 2008-02-11T12:58:14 the pgrep and pkill commands are incredibly useful, fwiw :) 2008-02-11T13:04:37 hmm... now when I start it, all I see is "Starting jabber server: ejabberd" 2008-02-11T13:04:43 no further output 2008-02-11T13:04:51 I'm tempted to be hapy about that 2008-02-11T13:07:41 dbs: another good reason to use dvorak 2008-02-11T13:07:59 dvorak cuts off fingers? crazy! 2008-02-11T13:10:09 sylvar: can you do: telnet localhost 5222 ? 2008-02-11T13:11:17 yes 2008-02-11T13:11:27 what shall I send? 2008-02-11T13:11:43 just type some junk and hit enter, you should get some XML back 2008-02-11T13:12:54 nope, no such luck 2008-02-11T13:13:02 no response 2008-02-11T13:13:40 arg, still not starting 2008-02-11T13:22:18 is this with a totally default ejabberd.cfg or a customized one? 2008-02-11T13:27:09 Customized. 2008-02-11T13:27:26 As per the instructions on the wiki. 2008-02-11T13:37:55 I wonder whether it might make sense to start with a totally default ejabberd.cfg and just confirm that that works, first. 2008-02-11T13:41:33 * berick agrees that's a good idea 2008-02-11T13:45:03 Anyone got a totally default ejabberd.cfg? 2008-02-11T13:45:23 Because mine seems to have remained even when I did apt-get remove ejabberd. 2008-02-11T13:53:28 * dbs wonders whether debconf might help 2008-02-11T13:55:39 or dpkg-reconfigure ejabberd 2008-02-11T13:57:11 yeah, that seems to work okay 2008-02-11T14:01:27 * dbs tries out ejabberd's web admin interface for the first time 2008-02-11T14:03:45 yeah, dpkg-reconfigure ejabberd seems to work OK for me too, giving "localhost" instead of the hostname. 2008-02-11T14:04:19 oh, wait. I told it to keep the existing cfg. 2008-02-11T14:05:01 ...and now I can't get it to ask me that question again. sheesh. 2008-02-11T14:05:32 I was able to run dpkg-reconfigure a few times 2008-02-11T14:05:49 you could always move all the cfg files out of /etc/ejabberd/ :) 2008-02-11T14:26:26 dbs: that results in 2008-02-11T14:26:31 Generating SSL certificate /etc/ejabberd/ejabberd.pem... 2008-02-11T14:26:33 Not replacing deleted config file /etc/ejabberd/ejabberd.cfg 2008-02-11T14:26:34 chown: cannot access `/etc/ejabberd/ejabberd.cfg': No such file or directory 2008-02-11T14:26:56 uninstall and reinstall? groan. 2008-02-11T14:27:30 dpkg --purge ejabberd? 2008-02-11T14:31:38 for those cases where you don't want to purge, you can force a reinstall to replace deleted config files by passing --force-confmiss to dpkg 2008-02-11T14:32:14 (but i prefer to purge the package and then reinstall in most cases) 2008-02-11T14:32:31 learning++ 2008-02-11T14:39:52 OK, I did dpkg --purge ejabberd and apt-get install ejabberd, and I see that the config file is back to standard. I added the 'evergreen' and 'router' users and stopped and started ejabberd. But I still get nothing from telnet localhost 5222 when I type some junk and hit enter. 2008-02-11T14:40:27 that's odd, you were able to register users using 'ejabberdctl' ? 2008-02-11T14:41:08 well, I got no error messages, anyway 2008-02-11T14:41:16 i see 2008-02-11T14:41:29 i'm not sure if ejabberdctl complains or not 2008-02-11T14:42:23 It complains for me if registering fails 2008-02-11T14:43:07 sylvar: can you open http://localhost:5280/admin in a browser? 2008-02-11T14:56:25 89% 2008-02-11T15:30:22 i love when I make a typo in a commit message about a typo 2008-02-11T15:36:55 berick: is that what they call irony? 2008-02-11T15:38:16 irony tastes like burning 2008-02-11T15:38:40 *** sarabee has quit IRC 2008-02-11T15:43:47 *** sarabee has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-02-11T15:58:24 dbs: it just hangs. i'm heading out but I'm sure I'll be back. thanks, everyone, for working on it with me. 2008-02-11T15:58:38 *** sylvar has quit IRC 2008-02-11T16:09:25 *** Karen__ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-02-11T16:09:25 *** Karen_ has quit IRC 2008-02-11T16:21:12 92% - 2% / hour. awesome 2008-02-11T16:24:24 * berick buys dbs a beer 2008-02-11T16:24:31 * dbs cries into it 2008-02-11T16:24:48 * berick turns up the country music 2008-02-11T16:25:39 -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =- 2008-02-11T16:26:48 ye-haw 2008-02-11T16:27:03 gimme somethin to shoot 2008-02-11T16:55:41 *** randym has left #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-02-11T17:28:13 *** gpal_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-02-11T17:37:01 ? is the open-ils.org site down... cant seem to get thru to the dokuwiki 2008-02-11T17:37:39 gpal_: seems to be working for me 2008-02-11T17:38:00 http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=feature_list_1_2_1 2008-02-11T17:38:16 or http://209.168.247.198/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=feature_list_1_2_1 2008-02-11T17:46:24 could be a network problem somewhere !! PING gets me -------> 43 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 42009ms 2008-02-11T17:48:01 Anyways, need some help ... been at the problem for a few hours now. 2008-02-11T17:50:40 I had installed gnash streaming video plugins and now xulrunner is failing on me witha ***glibc*** error sometimes and // sometimes just crashes with a core dump // and sometimes comes up with a Segmentation Fault.. Anyone seen that one before? 2008-02-11T17:51:11 no, thank goodness :( 2008-02-11T17:52:00 gpal_: what are you running for your OS? 2008-02-11T17:52:38 Ubuntu 7.10 Desktop Gutsy 2008-02-11T17:53:50 Things were working fine till 2 days back. Gutenberg data added successfully. Trying to test some cataloging data for practice and WHOOMPH... back to the drawing board 2008-02-11T17:54:49 hrmm, I'm running Kubuntu 7.10.. my xulrunner isn't a dynamic executable, so wouldn't be affected by a change of glibc. What does ldd /usr/bin/xulrunner show? 2008-02-11T17:54:57 BTW, whats the most used platform for OpenSRF :: Debian | Ubuntu | other ? 2008-02-11T17:55:37 Debian Etch gets used the most for PINES, I think the amd64 variant. I believe British Columbia is using some version of gentoo 2008-02-11T17:55:57 pc@poonam:/openils/bin$ ldd /usr/bin/xulrunner 2008-02-11T17:55:57 not a dynamic executable 2008-02-11T17:56:23 and if you do xulrunner --version? 2008-02-11T17:57:32 I am running an Acer AMD 64 Athlon 3800+ .. bought it specifically for testing out OpenSRF .. last week upgraded to 2gb ram (512 mb at a a time slowly). 2008-02-11T17:57:55 Mozilla XULRunner 1.8.1.4_0000000000 2008-02-11T17:58:26 that's what I have on my development box. Hrmm, dare I try installing gnash? Let's see what happens 2008-02-11T17:58:42 OpenSRF tanks with 512 ram. 1 gb : works ok. 2gb+: simply beautiful 2008-02-11T17:59:09 phase: just for testing.... do try 2008-02-11T17:59:24 still works. hrmm, I wonder what it could be 2008-02-11T17:59:36 And today most sites are petering off... some n/w prob i suppose 2008-02-11T17:59:41 maybe run xulrunner in gdb and see where it bombs? 2008-02-11T18:01:01 Been thru some sites checking out glibc** error. Quite a bit out there. Deinstalled (purge) totem/gnash/ -- Reinstalled firefox/xulrunner -- NO LUCK YET. 2008-02-11T18:01:36 *** Karen__ has left #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-02-11T18:02:29 gpal_: I'm afraid I have to leave; long commute home 2008-02-11T18:03:28 gdb:: "/usr/bin/xulrunner": not in executable format: File format not recognized 2008-02-11T18:03:28 Core was generated by `root=UUID=d201f07e-0bfd-4974-bff1-df161c8c530d ro quiet splash'. 2008-02-11T18:03:28 #0 0x00000000 in ?? () 2008-02-11T18:04:27 Ok phase thanx 2008-02-11T18:31:06 nb for the rec: web based local search works ok. Srfsh login SUCCESS. 2008-02-11T18:31:27 gpal_: yay! 2008-02-11T18:31:45 gpal_: what version of evergreen are you running? 2008-02-11T18:32:28 dbs: web/srfsh worked ok before also. Staff client (xulrunner) is broken.. 2008-02-11T18:32:39 gpal_: right, I see that from scroll back 2008-02-11T18:32:45 are you running 1.2.1.1 or trunk? 2008-02-11T18:33:01 eg is 1.2.1.1 2008-02-11T18:33:07 ok 2008-02-11T18:33:36 are you possibly using 32-bit libraries on 64-bit linux or some mixup like that? 2008-02-11T18:34:42 (I'm going to have to run soon for dinner, but will be back later) 2008-02-11T18:40:35 No. Things worked fine till 2 days back (for more than a week after adding gutenberg records). I installed some nonfree gnash plugin and am gnashing my teeth.. why? 2008-02-11T18:41:16 dbs:sure 2008-02-11T18:42:55 dbs: btw. Are u people at the Atlanta Central Public Lib.. just curious cos I was there in c.Nov'2006. Not knowing that i wd be using pines 2 yrs later :) 2008-02-11T18:43:15 hi gpal_ - I'm actually in sudbury, ontario, canada :) 2008-02-11T18:43:16 *** sarabee has quit IRC 2008-02-11T18:43:44 Ah Sorry. Dan. My mistake. 2008-02-11T18:44:30 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2008-02-11T18:45:38 No reason to be sorry, it's an honour to be associated with them 2008-02-11T18:46:24 Sorry cos I shd have remembered... from the blog :) 2008-02-11T18:48:05 *** sarabee has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-02-11T19:11:41 *** gmcharlt has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-02-11T19:45:55 gpal_: AFPL, eh? 2008-02-11T19:46:32 gpal_: a few of us used to work for the state library, which is in Atlanta, but never for AFPL 2008-02-11T19:50:46 sleeping_babies++ 2008-02-11T19:51:35 dbs: amen to that 2008-02-11T20:10:10 whats AFPL 2008-02-11T20:10:29 gpal_: Atlanta Fulton Public Library 2008-02-11T20:11:34 Right! Quite close to the subway that was if I remember right 2008-02-11T20:11:59 Subway... as in the restaurant, I assume :) 2008-02-11T20:12:15 nah the train subway 2008-02-11T20:12:28 there's no Subway in Atlanta! :) 2008-02-11T20:12:33 I don't think 2008-02-11T20:12:38 * bradl questions himself 2008-02-11T20:13:17 isn't there MARTA or something like that? 2008-02-11T20:13:40 yeah, but the MARTA train is all above-ground, I thought 2008-02-11T20:14:02 I could be completely mistaken, having spent maybe 5 hours total downtown 2008-02-11T20:14:20 sheesh - mr. literal :) 2008-02-11T20:14:32 haha 2008-02-11T20:15:11 the only think I remember about the Atlanta Central library was a big hole in the sidewalk in front of it 2008-02-11T20:15:16 think/thing 2008-02-11T20:16:16 right MARTA .. now I confused with the subway in NYC.. I was at some place a few miles from North Springs 2008-02-11T20:16:52 Sandy Springs? 2008-02-11T20:18:12 *** sarabee has quit IRC 2008-02-11T20:19:22 Not quite. Got it writ down somewhere though. 2008-02-11T20:21:00 *** sarabee has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-02-11T21:08:03 *** sarabee has quit IRC 2008-02-11T21:11:03 *** sarabee has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-02-11T21:52:25 *** sarabee has quit IRC 2008-02-11T21:54:39 *** sarabee has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-02-11T21:56:22 *** sarabee has quit IRC 2008-02-11T21:59:40 *** sarabee has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-02-11T22:01:08 *** sylvar has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-02-11T22:02:14 Random-ish thought: Is there a way to get Evergreen's OPAC to return a borrower's information (items due, etc.) in XML format so that Library Elf can help Evergreen users? 2008-02-11T22:29:03 sylvar: right now, probably not - but it wouldn't be hard to add 2008-02-11T22:31:02 hmm - /openils/lib/perl5/OpenSRF/AppSession.pm:1006 <404> Method [open-ils.storage.action.survey.required.atomic] not found for OpenILS::Application::Storage 2008-02-11T22:31:03 *** miker_ has quit IRC 2008-02-11T22:31:18 *** miker_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-02-11T22:50:38 *** gpal_ has left #openils-evergreen 2008-02-11T23:00:46 Oh well, something to look forward to tomorrow I suppose. 2008-02-11T23:09:05 *** dbs has quit IRC